So Republicans take control of both the House and Senate. Then what?

[rdean]

Life was not too bad the last time we had a GOP Congress and a Democratic President.

A lot got done.

Actually, the "a lot done" was when Clinton and the Democrats controlled both houses early in Clinton's first term. After that, not so much.

 

[rdean]

"Nothing" happening at the federal level for the last two years of Obama's term is the best we can hope for.

Tea Baggers love to do nothing and get paid.

They've been doing it since 2010.

It's called Tea Bagger Work Ethic -- they want to get labor for free or below minimum wage WHILE they get paid to do noting.

Isn't that a sizable portion of the democratic electorate, public workers, welfare layabouts, "artists" and other malcontents?

Well, actually, we all know most welfare goes to Red States. Links have been posted here many times. It can't be denied. And the rest of the GOP base? Rural poor living in trailers who vote "white" but are terribly damaged by their leader's policies? It really is a pity.

 

[Nyvin]

Tea Baggers love to do nothing and get paid.

They've been doing it since 2010.

It's called Tea Bagger Work Ethic -- they want to get labor for free or below minimum wage WHILE they get paid to do noting.

Isn't that a sizable portion of the democratic electorate, public workers, welfare layabouts, "artists" and other malcontents?

Most college educated people vote democratic.

 

[HelenaHandbag]

For a faction of the Conservative "Tea Party" caucus it is. But they have made such asses of themselves, between careening from crisis to manufactured crisis to the shut down on October that there will be more voters angry with their petulant behavior than irked over affordable health care.

That shutdown of a very small percentage of federal government will be but a faint memory, when people start getting their cancellation notices from their insurers in September and October because of Obicare.

How is congress polling these days? A popular institution is it? Do you suppose those effected by that cheap political stunt engineered by the Tea Party will be quick to forgive and forget?

Face it. The Right Wing of the Republican Party screwed up. They put their twisted ideology above the needs of their constituents. They played politics with the real time operation of the federal government and got substaintially burned for it.

The very low congressional approval numbers cut across party lines. You don't get numbers in the low teens because one party is adored and the other hated.

Face it, your attempt at blind far left wing partisanship has failed.

 

[rdean]

The key issue is obamacare, obamacare, obamacare.
Just sayin'.....

Meister, I wonder how much the option now for job mobility will effect folks because folks don't have to depend on jobs they don't like for health care.

My wife told me she would have gone part-time teaching in a heart beat if she had health insurance.

In other words, does the ACA make folks less dependent on business?

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We are going to turn into a nation of a 29 hour part time work week here very quickly. Business's are already cutting back hours to save the cost of employee's Obamacare. They simply can't afford this cost--especially in a tank economy. When business bottom lines are affected--the very 1st thing they do is lay-off employees or cut back employees hours, Law of Economics.

For those that already have employer based group coverage--that you contribute too--here is your OBAMACARE change and what you can look forward too.


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuA2_P-m4Sk]WTAE-PA: Pennsylvania Small Business Hit With Skyrocketing Health Costs From ObamaCare - YouTube[/ame]

78 percent are actually self-employed individuals, and more than 95 percent of small businesses have 10 or fewer workers. Only 0.3 percent fall into the 100 or greater category.

Confused by small business definitions?

Are you sure you know what you are talking about?

What is the number of employees a business has to have before it's affected by the ACA? I know the numbers, so don't guess. "KNOW!"

 

[rdean]

2013 was already the least productive congress in history. That's already been done thanks.

How many bills passed by the HoR have been put on the Senate calendar?

How many Senate bills have gone forward without filibuster?

Why should Republican sponsored bills move forward when theDemocratic bills are filibustered?

Good Question. I wish I hadn't missed it.

 

[rdean]

I wonder if the GOP can come together as one, even if they were able to win majorities in both houses of congress. The Republican Party seems split on incompatible ideological lines and I foresee a power struggle among some very ambitious personalities in both the House and Senate.

If the they were to win, however, I suspect we would see little pragmatic governance until it became obvious they were going to lose big in 2016.

We would likely see further efforts to cut taxes, reduce abortions, attack unions and reduce the size of government by cutting budgets, resulting in massive government employee layoffs.

We would see more efforts to privatize government services, less regulation in terms of environmental protections and privacy (keep in mind the government's ability to collect information on you is limited by law and overseen by the congress, no such requirement keeps the private sector out of your bedroom or bank account).

We would see serous efforts to undermine or eliminate Social Security and to dismantle Medicare/Medicaid and Obamacare, with the insurance and hospital lobby writing new laws and imposing new restrictions on access.

Those of you who 'hate' Obama and Democrats ought to take off your dunce caps and begin to really think about what it takes to oversee a nation as large as ours, in a world as unstable as ours.

The biggest divide in the GOP will be because of immigration. Business, normally worshiped by the GOP base, wants immigrants with degrees here because their companies need the expertise.
Republicans don't want the immigrants here because they are scared the jobs will be taken.
Republicans don't have the skills for those jobs anyway. That's the basis for the divide.
Worse, Republicans don't want the education that would make them suitable for those jobs because education would turn them into liberals.

 

[Stephanie]

Isn't that a sizable portion of the democratic electorate, public workers, welfare layabouts, "artists" and other malcontents?

Most college educated people vote democratic.

well now, not that liberal/Democrats/progressive/commies believe themselves superior or something

jeeeze, such uppity snobs

why anyone would belong to such a party who looks down at people

 

[Nosmo King]

Most college educated people vote democratic.

well now, not that liberal/Democrats/progressive/commies believe themselves superior or something

jeeeze, such uppity snobs

why anyone would belong to such a party who looks down at people

And Conservatives call academics eggheads and "Wizards of Smart' and thoroughly dismiss higher education and cultural pursuits. Why would anyone want to be in a party that thinks smarts don't count for much?

 

[longknife]

How many Senate bills have gone forward without filibuster?

Why should Republican sponsored bills move forward when theDemocratic bills are filibustered?

Irrelevant to the question I asked.

Go ahead, you can tell us.

How is the fact that Republicans have been blocking anything getting through the Senate for the last four years in any way irrelevant?

Why would Republicans believe that their bills can get through the Senate with 45 votes while the Democrats can't get their bills through with 55 votes?

I know this will be impossible for you to logically and calmly reply to but I will ask it anyway - how can Republicans "block" anything when the Senate Majority Leader doesn't even allow debate on the vast majority of bills?

 

[Nyvin]

Most college educated people vote democratic.

well now, not that liberal/Democrats/progressive/commies believe themselves superior or something

jeeeze, such uppity snobs

why anyone would belong to such a party who looks down at people

uhh...yeah, sure, whatever you say.

 

[Nyvin]

Irrelevant to the question I asked.

Go ahead, you can tell us.

How is the fact that Republicans have been blocking anything getting through the Senate for the last four years in any way irrelevant?

Why would Republicans believe that their bills can get through the Senate with 45 votes while the Democrats can't get their bills through with 55 votes?

I know this will be impossible for you to logically and calmly reply to but I will ask it anyway - how can Republicans "block" anything when the Senate Majority Leader doesn't even allow debate on the vast majority of bills?

ENDA, Immigration Reform, and the Farm Bill were all debated thoroughly before passing the Senate.

 

[Antares]

You should have stopped with your title thread and let posters discuss that. Instead you ran with your leftwing nut echo chamber mantra.
If the republicans were to take both sides of the House it would force obama to work in a more compromising manner if he wants to secure some positive legacy as Bill Clinton accomplished. This is something he hasn't had to do so far in his tenure.

Obie isn't that smart. He is a blind ideologue.

He'll lock himself in the Oval Office and hold his breath.

Good.

 

[Sallow]

The GOP won't have the votes to override any presidential vetoes.

Some are worried about Obama's "legacy".

Talking us out of a two mismanaged wars, one of which was for nothing.

Bringing us back from economic disaster.

Saving the auto industry.

Equal pay for equal work.

Taking out Bin Laden.

Laying out the road for health care and all the ramifications including creating millions of new jobs because people are no longer locked into jobs they can't stand.

He's done so much more. But just that is more than Reagan, Bush Jr. and Bush Sr. all put together.

So what's the worst? The GOP controls both houses and holds the country hostage for two years. The Koch Brothers may be able to spend local elections into oblivion, but not national elections.

Republicans will get creamed in 2016. With a shrinking base. And more minorities voting than ever before.

And Republicans will lose major business support.

It's business that wants immigrants with degrees. Why? Because there aren't enough high tech liberal workers to fill the jobs. And Republicans are simply not qualified.

Texas is making community college practically free. So a lot more liberals will be getting an education.

Anyway, I see this as the worst case scenario. There are no GOP policies that anyone wants. And the endless anti abortion bills and end health care bills are tiresome.

If that happens?

They will impeach Obama.

No question about it.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Irrelevant to the question I asked.

Go ahead, you can tell us.

How is the fact that Republicans have been blocking anything getting through the Senate for the last four years in any way irrelevant?

Why would Republicans believe that their bills can get through the Senate with 45 votes while the Democrats can't get their bills through with 55 votes?

I know this will be impossible for you to logically and calmly reply to but I will ask it anyway - how can Republicans "block" anything when the Senate Majority Leader doesn't even allow debate on the vast majority of bills?

Now they can't, you are right.

Both sides have brought on the death of the 60-vote cloture rule. It will be completely gone after the 2016 election regardless of who wins.

 

[Antares]

For a faction of the Conservative "Tea Party" caucus it is. But they have made such asses of themselves, between careening from crisis to manufactured crisis to the shut down on October that there will be more voters angry with their petulant behavior than irked over affordable health care.

That shutdown of a very small percentage of federal government will be but a faint memory, when people start getting their cancellation notices from their insurers in September and October because of Obicare.

How is congress polling these days? A popular institution is it? Do you suppose those effected by that cheap political stunt engineered by the Tea Party will be quick to forgive and forget?

Face it. The Right Wing of the Republican Party screwed up. They put their twisted ideology above the needs of their constituents. They played politics with the real time operation of the federal government and got substaintially burned for it.

Go to the corner, I'm putting you in a time out.

We ELECTED them to STOP your nut job King.

 

[Sallow]

Irrelevant to the question I asked.

Go ahead, you can tell us.

How is the fact that Republicans have been blocking anything getting through the Senate for the last four years in any way irrelevant?

Why would Republicans believe that their bills can get through the Senate with 45 votes while the Democrats can't get their bills through with 55 votes?

I know this will be impossible for you to logically and calmly reply to but I will ask it anyway - how can Republicans "block" anything when the Senate Majority Leader doesn't even allow debate on the vast majority of bills?

One word.

Filibuster.

They've got a RECORD number of filibusters. Which kills your argument about debate.

Understand now?

That's an English word.

 

[longknife]

How is the fact that Republicans have been blocking anything getting through the Senate for the last four years in any way irrelevant?

Why would Republicans believe that their bills can get through the Senate with 45 votes while the Democrats can't get their bills through with 55 votes?

I know this will be impossible for you to logically and calmly reply to but I will ask it anyway - how can Republicans "block" anything when the Senate Majority Leader doesn't even allow debate on the vast majority of bills?

One word.

Filibuster.

They've got a RECORD number of filibusters. Which kills your argument about debate.

Understand now?

That's an English word.

I wonder how many filibusters that have been since Obama took office compared to the number of vacations Obama has taken.

 

[Nosmo King]

That shutdown of a very small percentage of federal government will be but a faint memory, when people start getting their cancellation notices from their insurers in September and October because of Obicare.

How is congress polling these days? A popular institution is it? Do you suppose those effected by that cheap political stunt engineered by the Tea Party will be quick to forgive and forget?

Face it. The Right Wing of the Republican Party screwed up. They put their twisted ideology above the needs of their constituents. They played politics with the real time operation of the federal government and got substaintially burned for it.

Go to the corner, I'm putting you in a time out.

We ELECTED them to STOP your nut job King.

So you're not interested in governing, but obstructing. The best interests of the American people take a back seat to a narrow political ideology. Legislating is a secondary enterprise, put on hold by doing nothing.

And this is supposed to be a winning position? With approval numbers in the single digits, do you expect to be re-elected and widely supported? It's shear nonsense. The American people know it even if the wool has been pulled over your eyes.

 

[OKTexas]

Good luck with replacing the rats as they leave the sinking ship. They better get all the expected changes through in the next few months.