So it turns out that 3% GDP number is something of a red herring

[Crepitus]

The number is artificially high because imports fell sharply, and since imports a subtracted from GDP it makes the number look stronger than it really was. Overall growth is still slower than the previous two years.

So trump is still losing to Biden.

https://www.npr.org/2025/07/30/nx-s1-5484219/economy-gdp-tariffs-growth

 

[candycorn]

The number is artificially high because imports fell sharply, and since imports a subtracted from GDP it makes the number look stronger than it really was. Overall growth is still slower than the previous two years.

So trump is still losing to Biden.

https://www.npr.org/2025/07/30/nx-s1-5484219/economy-gdp-tariffs-growth

Growth is good. But as I cited in another thread, Biden had a 2.9 on the heels of an economy suffering from covid.

Thread 'Joe’s economy still healthy: GDP expands +2.9%'

Jan 26, 2023

Not sure how the Republican will spin this but it’s really good news. Basically inflation is slowing and economy is still moving along.


US Economy Expands at a Faster-Than-Expected 2.9% Pace


The US economy expanded at a healthy pace in the fourth quarter, though an extended salvo of Federal Reserve interest-rate hikes is seen jeopardizing growth prospects this year.

Gross domestic product increased at a 2.9% annualized rate in final three months of 2022 after a 3.2% gain in the third quarter, the Commerce Department’s initial estimate showed Thursday. Personal consumption...

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[protectionist]

They didn't learn anything from the 2024 election, the concoctions and spins keep rolling in, with no idea how irrelevant and forgotten they are.

Top Democrat Admits Party Has a ‘Huge Problem’ After Poll Numbers Drop to Catastrophic Levels

Will they recover from this?

pjnewsletter.com

 

[Crepitus]

They didn't learn anything from the 2024 election, the concoctions and spins keep rolling in, with no idea how irrelevant and forgotten they are.

Top Democrat Admits Party Has a ‘Huge Problem’ After Poll Numbers Drop to Catastrophic Levels

Will they recover from this?

pjnewsletter.com

What does that have to do with the GDP numbers?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

MAGA and Epstein don't mix well for victory.

 

[protectionist]

What does that have to do with the GDP numbers?

I see no need to feed your detachment from reality.

 

[protectionist]

MAGA and Epstein don't mix well for victory.

Epstein is irrelevant to most everyone in America, other than Bill Clinton, who made 29 trips to the island, while Trump never went there.

Poor soul, forgotten Democrats still cling to their hopes of demonizing Trump. When you see them, buy them an ice cream cone.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The number is artificially high because imports fell sharply,

And consumption didn't. That means more American products.

 

[Rambunctious]

Stop it Crep... the media has been stumbling all over themselves today trying to find something wrong with today's GDP number... they look foolish and so do you...

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The real number is with import.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Put the imports back in and the number is not what it seems to be.

 

[justoffal]

The number is artificially high because imports fell sharply, and since imports a subtracted from GDP it makes the number look stronger than it really was. Overall growth is still slower than the previous two years.

So trump is still losing to Biden.

https://www.npr.org/2025/07/30/nx-s1-5484219/economy-gdp-tariffs-growth

Unfortunately those imports also import debt.
Especially when they are done at the deficit that we've been maintaining for the past 25 years
The constant outflow of trade imbalance doesn't just go away but totals up in the composite national debt which for some reason our economists tend to ignore as the consequence of selling out the value of the nation in behalf of cheap goods.

 

[yidnar]

The number is artificially high because imports fell sharply, and since imports a subtracted from GDP it makes the number look stronger than it really was. Overall growth is still slower than the previous two years.

So trump is still losing to Biden.

https://www.npr.org/2025/07/30/nx-s1-5484219/economy-gdp-tariffs-growth

 

[yidnar]

MAGA and Epstein don't mix well for victory.

the Epstein story ain't gonna end the way you hope it does ..

 

[yidnar]

Stop it Crep... the media has been stumbling all over themselves today trying to find something wrong with today's GDP number... they look foolish and so do you...

he cant stop .. he just cant ..

 

[Moonglow]

Epstein is irrelevant to most everyone in America, other than Bill Clinton, who made 29 trips to the island, while Trump never went there.

Poor soul, forgotten Democrats still cling to their hopes of demonizing Trump. When you see them, buy them an ice cream cone.

You'd better let Trump know.

 

[j-mac]

You'd better let Trump know.

Trump knows, in fact he mocks you for being obsessed with it.

 

[wamose]

The number is artificially high because imports fell sharply, and since imports a subtracted from GDP it makes the number look stronger than it really was. Overall growth is still slower than the previous two years.

So trump is still losing to Biden.

https://www.npr.org/2025/07/30/nx-s1-5484219/economy-gdp-tariffs-growth

The only people who could have possibly lost to Biden are Kamala and Tampon Tim along with the up and commers in NYC and Minneapolis. The commie racist, Obama, sucked too. Today's Democrats are Marxist-Commies. They don't qualify to lead Americans.

 

[Moonglow]

Trump knows, in fact he mocks you for being obsessed with it.

He has no idea I exist.

 

[Care4all]

MAGA and Epstein don't mix well for victory.

Epstein isn't needed. The horrible BBB passage is enough to run on! They need to get to it!