So it looks like the armchair warriors are back.

[playtime]

^Caught in a lie so what do you do? Lie some more.

Nope! Just led you to where I wanted you to go, the far left easy to do that with!

All it did was show the GOP will question their own, unlike the far left, that means you!

It was two senators. Mark Meadows was on his knees as were most Republicans.

However your claim was that the whitehouse was keeping Congress updated and you called me a liar. Well, I didn't lie, the whitehouse isn't being open with Congress and that is a problem.

Why would congress need to know the details about an operation inside of a war zone, that has been a war zone for many years?

Huh? You don't understand Congress' role at all do you? Ever heard of oversight? Or budgets?

Yeah, and this sounds not like any of that.

it's certainly part of it. i gave you more & the link that explains it all.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

It's been weird, watching the same people who made excuses for the wars Bush got us into, turn into anti-neocon doves when Trump came down the escalator.

How could these people have turned on a dime like that?

But now, Trump blows up a bad guy and they're back at full force. Welcome back, we missed ya! But could you at least make up your mind, one way or the other?
.

I don't want another war. But the guy was in a war zone, in a country he was directing hostile military operations against, and directing operations AGAINST US, killing our people.


He was a completely valid target.


If Iran chooses to pretend that their people engaging in warfare against us, are somehow supposed to be safe while doing so, that is their choice, to be insane.

where's the evidence that he was an imminent threat? a contractor was killed & we retaliated & killed 25 of theirs. then donny not only pushed the envelope - he damn well shoved the whole paper company off a ledge & now it looks like every service member around the world is in their sites. good job - i feel safer now.... don't you?

of course you do cause donny says you are.

As I said, in the post you "replied to",


if Iran wants to believe that their people in a ******* war zone, in a country that they are invading, and terrorizing, that are waging war against US, killing our people,


if Iran wants to be shocked and upset that some of those people were targeted?


That is their choice to be insane.

Why would the Iraqi government invite our sworn enemy (and supposedly theirs) to our country? I mean their country.....yea, their country....

And then why would the Iraqi government dare refute our master by saying Soleimani was there on a peace keeping mission??

then vote to try to expel US troops from our country?? I mean their country...yea, their country...

Iraqi PM reveals Soleimani was on peace mission when assassinated, exploding Trump’s lie of ‘imminent attacks’

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Yet ANOTHER war for the small hatted ones.

maybe it's time to look at the big pix>>>

https://www.amazon.com/Blowback-West-cked-Middle-East/dp/1910400556&tag=ff0d01-20?tag=usmb-20

~S~

Read this...it's free.
Front companies and Israel’s global terrorist network

Adendum
Fighting Israel's Wars: How the U.S. military and government have become Zionized

Middle East Monitor - Media Bias/Fact Check
I'm not even going to look at your 2nd link using Zionized is very telling.

The left/right paradigm doesn't apply to Jews as they control both narratives.

OK Heinrich.

 

[playtime]

It's been weird, watching the same people who made excuses for the wars Bush got us into, turn into anti-neocon doves when Trump came down the escalator.

How could these people have turned on a dime like that?

But now, Trump blows up a bad guy and they're back at full force. Welcome back, we missed ya! But could you at least make up your mind, one way or the other?
.

I don't want another war. But the guy was in a war zone, in a country he was directing hostile military operations against, and directing operations AGAINST US, killing our people.


He was a completely valid target.


If Iran chooses to pretend that their people engaging in warfare against us, are somehow supposed to be safe while doing so, that is their choice, to be insane.

Always an excuse to send others into war.

THey are already in a war.

Congress met and passed a declaration of war?

Save your partisan hackery for the tourists.

ummmm the link i provided containing just that is from.... now read very slowly.............

the


library


of

















CONGRESS.

 

[j-mac]

Nope! I led you to showing the GOP will question their own, unlike the far left which will never do that!

The only lie here is that any strikes are unconstitutional after the Obama years!

^Caught in a lie so what do you do? Lie some more.

Nope! Just led you to where I wanted you to go, the far left easy to do that with!

All it did was show the GOP will question their own, unlike the far left, that means you!

It was two senators. Mark Meadows was on his knees as were most Republicans.

However your claim was that the whitehouse was keeping Congress updated and you called me a liar. Well, I didn't lie, the whitehouse isn't being open with Congress and that is a problem.

Why would congress need to know the details about an operation inside of a war zone, that has been a war zone for many years?

lol- WHAT?

The Constitution of the United States divides the war powers of the federal government between the Executive and Legislative branches: the President is the Commander in Chief of the armed forces (Article II, section 2), while Congress has the power to make declarations of war, and to raise and support the armed forces (Article I, section 8). Over time, questions arose as to the extent of the President's authority to deploy U.S. armed forces into hostile situations abroad without a declaration of war or some other form of Congressional approval. Congress passed the War Powers Resolution in the aftermath of the Vietnam War to address these concerns and provide a set of procedures for both the President and Congress to follow in situations where the introduction of U.S. forces abroad could lead to their involvement in armed conflict.

Conceptually, the War Powers Resolution can be broken down into several distinct parts. The first part states the policy behind the law, namely to "insure that the collective judgment of both the Congress and the President will apply to the introduction of United States Armed Forces into hostilities," and that the President's powers as Commander in Chief are exercised only pursuant to a declaration of war, specific statutory authorization from Congress, or a national emergency created by an attack upon the United States (50 USC Sec. 1541).

The second part requires the President to consult with Congress before introducing U.S. armed forces into hostilities or situations where hostilities are imminent, and to continue such consultations as long as U.S. armed forces remain in such situations (50 USC Sec. 1542). The third part sets forth reporting requirements that the President must comply with any time he introduces U.S. armed forces into existing or imminent hostilities (50 USC Sec. 1543); section 1543(a)(1) is particularly significant because it can trigger a 60 day time limit on the use of U.S. forces under section 1544(b).
War Powers | Law Library of Congress

donny was REQUIRED to notify congress with in 48 hrs of that strike

he did not

donny was required to give a specific reason with verifiable evidence

he did not

only that it was an 'imminent threat'

it was determined that it was not & he et al have since backed off that 'reason'

going so far as to tell those congress critters that they should not question the order.

Congress abdicated that power when they passed the use of force law and turned over the decision to the President.

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[Olde Europe]

ummmm the link i provided containing just that is from.... now read very slowly.............

the


library


of

















CONGRESS.

Eggheads! Scientific Frauds! Anti-Trumpers! Pencil Necks! Lamestream Whatevers! Deep State!!!

 

[playtime]

^Caught in a lie so what do you do? Lie some more.

Nope! Just led you to where I wanted you to go, the far left easy to do that with!

All it did was show the GOP will question their own, unlike the far left, that means you!

It was two senators. Mark Meadows was on his knees as were most Republicans.

However your claim was that the whitehouse was keeping Congress updated and you called me a liar. Well, I didn't lie, the whitehouse isn't being open with Congress and that is a problem.

Why would congress need to know the details about an operation inside of a war zone, that has been a war zone for many years?

lol- WHAT?

The Constitution of the United States divides the war powers of the federal government between the Executive and Legislative branches: the President is the Commander in Chief of the armed forces (Article II, section 2), while Congress has the power to make declarations of war, and to raise and support the armed forces (Article I, section 8). Over time, questions arose as to the extent of the President's authority to deploy U.S. armed forces into hostile situations abroad without a declaration of war or some other form of Congressional approval. Congress passed the War Powers Resolution in the aftermath of the Vietnam War to address these concerns and provide a set of procedures for both the President and Congress to follow in situations where the introduction of U.S. forces abroad could lead to their involvement in armed conflict.

Conceptually, the War Powers Resolution can be broken down into several distinct parts. The first part states the policy behind the law, namely to "insure that the collective judgment of both the Congress and the President will apply to the introduction of United States Armed Forces into hostilities," and that the President's powers as Commander in Chief are exercised only pursuant to a declaration of war, specific statutory authorization from Congress, or a national emergency created by an attack upon the United States (50 USC Sec. 1541).

The second part requires the President to consult with Congress before introducing U.S. armed forces into hostilities or situations where hostilities are imminent, and to continue such consultations as long as U.S. armed forces remain in such situations (50 USC Sec. 1542). The third part sets forth reporting requirements that the President must comply with any time he introduces U.S. armed forces into existing or imminent hostilities (50 USC Sec. 1543); section 1543(a)(1) is particularly significant because it can trigger a 60 day time limit on the use of U.S. forces under section 1544(b).
War Powers | Law Library of Congress

donny was REQUIRED to notify congress with in 48 hrs of that strike

he did not

donny was required to give a specific reason with verifiable evidence

he did not

only that it was an 'imminent threat'

it was determined that it was not & he et al have since backed off that 'reason'

going so far as to tell those congress critters that they should not question the order.

Congress abdicated that power when they passed the use of force law and turned over the decision to the President.

Sent from my SM-T587P using Tapatalk

actually - i'll need an unbiased credible link for that cause the only thing i can find about that in current form is for civilian law enforcement - - not use of military force & as far as that is concerned - that was in 2001 & for the 9/11 attack.

 

[playtime]

ummmm the link i provided containing just that is from.... now read very slowly.............

the


library


of

















CONGRESS.

Eggheads! Scientific Frauds! Anti-Trumpers! Pencil Necks! Lamestream Whatevers! Deep State!!!

ALTERNATIVE FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[CowboyTed]

they would rather stay warm & comfy in that basket of deplorables, being spoon fed the pablum that keeps them ignorant rather than hurt their brain learning real facts.

What "real facts" would that be?? ....

that donny is an impulsive man baby - - - who thinks he 'knows more than the generals' , didn't even know it was a war crime to hit cultural & religious sites.

tell me something - - did you automatically believe it when you were told that hussein's army took little kuwaiti babies outa their incubators to die? how about the mushroom cloud? yellow cake? how'z about the USA were gonna be liberators & be greeted with flowers? were they facts that turned out to be true?

So, it would be "grown up" to let the Iranians conduct operations inside of Iraq, killing our people, instead of fighting back, because it might upset the Iranians who believe that they should be allowed to kill us safely?


MMm, yeah, no, I'm not going to accept that. If that is the world we live in, we need to change it, right ******* now.

Hey tough guy...

The US lost an unnamed contractor at the start of this to what seems to be a rogue miltia (backed by Iran, might not have full control)

White House response was to kill 25 and wound 55 people

Iran led response was to have a non lethal violent protest to cause damage to US Embassy but NOT invade the main compound and be non lethal.

White House response was to kill Iran No.2 leader..

Iran performed a missile attack on a Compound after giving a warning to them to evacuate

What we see here is White House escalating with every response. Iran won this one as US have got invited to leave Iraq, it is what Iran wanted all along. Even if US stays Iran has won the optics and looks like the stable people trying to deescalate and US being the dangerous ones. Iraqis will do the work for Iran on this one, Iran has actually asked its militias not to attack US soldiers.

Will the White House take responsibility for increasing tensions and thus putting US Soldiers in far more dangerous environment. Will accept the responsibility for the death of US soldiers.

 

[Mac-7]

Same shit every time. These fuckers know they are being lied to but the thrill of living vicariously through those who sacrifice their lives (why I don't know) is just so appealing.
Yet ANOTHER war for the small hatted ones.

Thats really stupid

trump is peacefully putting pressure on iran through economic sanctions

and they are lashing out by attacking tankers, saudi oil fields, American contractors, and our embassy in Iraq

Yes...we are completely innocent...completely. We haven't done ANYTHING to deserve this.

International geopolitics does not depend on one side being squeaky clean and the other side being totally evil

but iran comes pretty close to the later

 

[K9Buck]

It's been weird, watching the same people who made excuses for the wars Bush got us into....

I supported taking out Saddam and sons, but I didn't support the occupation management and rebuilding of Iraq.

Just curious, did you complain when Obama helped assassinate Qaddafi and worked to overthrow the governments of Egypt, Syria, Israel and God-only-knows who else?

 

[CowboyTed]

that donny is an impulsive man baby - - - who thinks he 'knows more than the generals' , didn't even know it was a war crime to hit cultural & religious sites.

Your opinions aren't "facts", they're just opinions. ...

Sorry but playtime stated a an opinion at

It's been weird, watching the same people who made excuses for the wars Bush got us into, turn into anti-neocon doves when Trump came down the escalator.

How could these people have turned on a dime like that?

But now, Trump blows up a bad guy and they're back at full force. Welcome back, we missed ya! But could you at least make up your mind, one way or the other?
.

I don't want another war. But the guy was in a war zone, in a country he was directing hostile military operations against, and directing operations AGAINST US, killing our people.


He was a completely valid target.


If Iran chooses to pretend that their people engaging in warfare against us, are somehow supposed to be safe while doing so, that is their choice, to be insane.

where's the evidence that he was an imminent threat? a contractor was killed & we retaliated & killed 25 of theirs. then donny not only pushed the envelope - he damn well shoved the whole paper company off a ledge & now it looks like every service member around the world is in their sites. good job - i feel safer now.... don't you?

of course you do cause donny says you are.

As I said, in the post you "replied to",


if Iran wants to believe that their people in a ******* war zone, in a country that they are invading, and terrorizing, that are waging war against US, killing our people,


if Iran wants to be shocked and upset that some of those people were targeted?


That is their choice to be insane.

Why do we still have troops in a war zone 17 years after we started the war?

Because the exit strategy fell apart on a puff of wind...

But we have learnt and we now know it is stupid to goto war with an unrealistic exit strategy.

Trump Says He Doesn’t Need an Exit Strategy for Possible Iran War

Problem sorted... The Stable Genius

 

[Mac1958]

It's been weird, watching the same people who made excuses for the wars Bush got us into....

I supported taking out Saddam and sons, but I didn't support the occupation management and rebuilding of Iraq.

Just curious, did you complain when Obama helped assassinate Qaddafi and worked to overthrow the governments of Egypt, Syria, Israel and God-only-knows who else?

Provide some proof and I'll comment. And please, no Alex Jones.

And by the way, you haven't seen me complaining about Trump taking out that general, have you? If you have, provide a quote, please. Otherwise, you're attacking out of pure ignorance. This thread is about the Trumpsters, not Trump.
.

 

[K9Buck]

Provide some proof and I'll comment. And please, no Alex Jones.
.

Common knowledge. Considering your ignorance of basic information, I'll pass on engaging you further on the topic. If you care to educate yourself, you can get back to me and we can discuss the matter further.

 

[Mac1958]

Provide some proof and I'll comment. And please, no Alex Jones.

Common knowledge. Considering your ignorance of basic information, I'll pass on engaging you further on the topic. If you care to educate yourself, you can get back to me and we can discuss the matter further.

Of course. I wasn't holding my breath.

You guys just make it up as you go.
.

 

[K9Buck]

Provide some proof and I'll comment. And please, no Alex Jones.

Common knowledge. Considering your ignorance of basic information, I'll pass on engaging you further on the topic. If you care to educate yourself, you can get back to me and we can discuss the matter further.

Of course. I wasn't holding my breath.

You guys just make it up as you go.
.

Remain ignorant.

 

[GreenAndBlue]

Provide some proof and I'll comment. And please, no Alex Jones.

Common knowledge. Considering your ignorance of basic information, I'll pass on engaging you further on the topic. If you care to educate yourself, you can get back to me and we can discuss the matter further.

Of course. I wasn't holding my breath.

You guys just make it up as you go.
.

Remain ignorant.

Yes he is proven to be ignorant

He ignores real science

//////

UK study claims men have higher average I.Q. than women
Saturday, August 27, 2005

In a study accepted for publication by the British Journal of Psychology, Dr. Paul Irwing (Manchester Business School, Senior Lecturer in Organizational Psychology) and Prof. Richard Lynn (University of Ulster, Professor Emeritus) conclude that men are on average five points ahead on IQ tests. The study also found that men outnumbered women in increasing numbers as intelligence levels rise. There were twice as many with IQ scores of 125, a level typical for people with first-class degrees. When scores rose to 155, a level associated with genius, there were 5.5 men for every woman.

/////

This war coming quickly is men against women and the men will win easily and stop the unwise from voting

 

[pknopp]

Same shit every time. These fuckers know they are being lied to but the thrill of living vicariously through those who sacrifice their lives (why I don't know) is just so appealing.
Yet ANOTHER war for the small hatted ones.

Thats really stupid

trump is peacefully putting pressure on iran through economic sanctions

and they are lashing out by attacking tankers, saudi oil fields, American contractors, and our embassy in Iraq

Yes...we are completely innocent...completely. We haven't done ANYTHING to deserve this.

International geopolitics does not depend on one side being squeaky clean and the other side being totally evil

but iran comes pretty close to the later

How many countries has Iran invaded? How many have we?

Did Iran overthrow our government or did we help overthrow theirs?

 

[miketx]

Same shit every time. These fuckers know they are being lied to but the thrill of living vicariously through those who sacrifice their lives (why I don't know) is just so appealing.
Yet ANOTHER war for the small hatted ones.

Thats really stupid

trump is peacefully putting pressure on iran through economic sanctions

and they are lashing out by attacking tankers, saudi oil fields, American contractors, and our embassy in Iraq

Yes...we are completely innocent...completely. We haven't done ANYTHING to deserve this.

International geopolitics does not depend on one side being squeaky clean and the other side being totally evil

but iran comes pretty close to the later

How many countries has Iran invaded? How many have we?

Did Iran overthrow our government or did we help overthrow theirs?

Iran is not capable of invading anyone. Perhaps a better question your traitor hide should ask, if you were honest, but you're not, is how many innocent people have Iranian terrorists butchered world wide.

 

[Mac-7]

Same shit every time. These fuckers know they are being lied to but the thrill of living vicariously through those who sacrifice their lives (why I don't know) is just so appealing.
Yet ANOTHER war for the small hatted ones.

Thats really stupid

trump is peacefully putting pressure on iran through economic sanctions

and they are lashing out by attacking tankers, saudi oil fields, American contractors, and our embassy in Iraq

Yes...we are completely innocent...completely. We haven't done ANYTHING to deserve this.

International geopolitics does not depend on one side being squeaky clean and the other side being totally evil

but iran comes pretty close to the later

How many countries has Iran invaded? How many have we?

Did Iran overthrow our government or did we help overthrow theirs?

So, based on your understanding of history you are pro Iran and anti American?

thats regretable