So apparently don jr bribed homeless folks to pretend to be Trump supporters during his visit to Greenland

mexico paid indirectly by having to spend money to put troops on the border,
Trump never said that they would mail us a check. There are many ways to pay. try to keep up.
BS.
You try to keep up, I know it's hard with all the lies coming from the Trump regime, makes it hard to keep track of the BS and lies

www.vox.com · policy-and-politics · 2019/1/10President Trump had an actual plan for making Mexico pay for ...


Jan 10, 2019 · “It’s an easy decision for Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion,” a campaign document titled “Pay for the Wall” from his presidential bid reads.
 
Careful. Democrats control the MSM for this very reason.
Your concept of what media is mainstream is ancient and outdated.

There’s traditional media, where people attempt to convey factual information.

And there’s entertainment media, where people don’t care about factual information, it’s just entertainment.
 
Your concept of what media is mainstream is ancient and outdated.

There’s traditional media, where people attempt to convey factual information.

And there’s entertainment media, where people don’t care about factual information, it’s just entertainment.

Would you consider ABC, CBS and NBC traditional media? You don’t think they lean left?
 
Would you consider ABC, CBS and NBC traditional media? You don’t think they lean left?
Yes; they’re traditional media. The network nightly news doesn’t seem to have any significant leaning.

Do you think Joe Rogan is mainstream? You don’t think he leans right?
 
Yes; they’re traditional media. The network nightly news doesn’t seem to have any significant leaning.

Do you think Joe Rogan is mainstream? You don’t think he leans right?

Therein lies the problem. Yes, the national ABC, NBC and CBS news are biased, but the average lefty can’t see it. They aren’t as blatant as MSNBC, but they most certainly lean left.

I never listened to Joe Rogan. I wouldn’t consider him mainstream, though he does have millions of listeners. Even still, he was a Bernie guy, so hardly a conservative. He supported Trump this election because the left has gone far, far off the rails of late.
 
Therein lies the problem. Yes, the national ABC, NBC and CBS news are biased, but the average lefty can’t see it. They aren’t as blatant as MSNBC, but they most certainly lean left.

I never listened to Joe Rogan. I wouldn’t consider him mainstream, though he does have millions of listeners. Even still, he was a Bernie guy, so hardly a conservative. He supported Trump this election because the left has gone far, far off the rails of late.
Joe Rogan’s podcast has 14 million followers. If he’s not mainstream, no one is.

Rogan cannot be a Bernie guy if he supports Trump because the left has gone too far. That makes absolutely no sense given Bernie is to the left of the Democratic Party.

The problem is you are biased, which means your opinion of who is and isn’t biased is influence by your politics. As a far right person, anything that’s actually neutral will seem to have a leftist bias from your perspective.
 
Joe Rogan’s podcast has 14 million followers. If he’s not mainstream, no one is.

Rogan cannot be a Bernie guy if he supports Trump because the left has gone too far. That makes absolutely no sense given Bernie is to the left of the Democratic Party.

The problem is you are biased, which means your opinion of who is and isn’t biased is influence by your politics. As a far right person, anything that’s actually neutral will seem to have a leftist bias from your perspective.

I said the Democratic Party has gone off the rails. To continue with the train analogy, that means they aren’t even on the track. Rogan was absolutely not a Republican, but he realized that the Democratic Party has been completely derailed. Smart people will get off the train.

As a far left person, anything that is actually neutral will seem to have a rightist bias from your perspective.

The MSM is more coy in their bias than many of the cable news outlets. For example, they will lie by omission or they will give much more coverage to stories that seemingly shed a bad light on the other side. You didn’t hear much about the Hunter laptop story on these networks in 2020. Funny enough, there wasn’t an investigative reporter from one of these networks interested in pursuing it, even though it was clearly suspect. They were repeating the lie that Biden was competent and sharp as a tack. Their interviews and debate moderators couldn’t be more biased. I don’t care if you don’t see it. Most do.
 
Funny enough, there wasn’t an investigative reporter from one of these networks interested in pursuing it, even though it was clearly suspect.
They tried, but Giuliani refused to allow them access to the laptop. The reason he gave it to the NY Post is because he didn’t want actual journalists looking at it.

When actual journalists did get access and look at the laptop, they did not discover evidence of political corruption.

Notice how none of you actually talk about what’s on the laptop, and just whine about what was said about it.

Traditional media actually care about facts. Your favored media, the entertainment media, doesn’t.
 
They tried, but Giuliani refused to allow them access to the laptop. The reason he gave it to the NY Post is because he didn’t want actual journalists looking at it.

When actual journalists did get access and look at the laptop, they did not discover evidence of political corruption.

Notice how none of you actually talk about what’s on the laptop, and just whine about what was said about it.

Traditional media actually care about facts. Your favored media, the entertainment media, doesn’t.

What was on the laptop was very politically damaging to Joe Biden. That is why they didn’t want it out. Naked selfies, crack binges and 10% to the big guy wouldn’t have helped Biden much in the election.

You are lost if you think you are being told the unbiased truth my traditional media. Thankfully, many are waking up to this fact.
 
So apparently in his struggle to be relevant Trump jr went to Greenland last week, where he bribed homeless people to pretend to be Trump supporters as a publicity stunt.

If that’s true, reminds me of the Gore Campaign bribing the homeless with $5, liquor and cigarettes to go vote in the 2000 Election.
 
What was on the laptop was very politically damaging to Joe Biden. That is why they didn’t want it out. Naked selfies, crack binges and 10% to the big guy wouldn’t have helped Biden much in the election.

You are lost if you think you are being told the unbiased truth my traditional media. Thankfully, many are waking up to this fact.
We all knew Hunter Biden was an addict and bad person. The laptop had no information that was new or relevant.

You are so poorly informed that you think the email about the “big guy” has political relevance. It was well after Biden had left office. Traditional media actually reported in depth about the business deals with Hunter Biden. You don’t know about that because you’re VERY poorly informed by right wing media. They tell you the bare minimum, knowing that the attention span of the general right wing audience is VERY limited.

Your media lies to you all the time but you don’t care, so it’s laughable that you’re going to lecture anyone else. You are on here repeating those falsehoods constantly.

We were told that the laptop had child pornography on it when that was obviously a lie.
 
We all knew Hunter Biden was an addict and bad person. The laptop had no information that was new or relevant.

You are so poorly informed that you think the email about the “big guy” has political relevance. It was well after Biden had left office. Traditional media actually reported in depth about the business deals with Hunter Biden. You don’t know about that because you’re VERY poorly informed by right wing media. They tell you the bare minimum, knowing that the attention span of the general right wing audience is VERY limited.

Your media lies to you all the time but you don’t care, so it’s laughable that you’re going to lecture anyone else. You are on here repeating those falsehoods constantly.

We were told that the laptop had child pornography on it when that was obviously a lie.

The laptop story would have been damaging to Biden. There is no way around that. The MSM covered it up as much as possible during the election. You and everybody else knows that if that laptop had belonged to Don. Jr., it would have been on the front page of every traditional media outlet in the country. That is the difference.
 
The laptop story would have been damaging to Biden. There is no way around that. The MSM covered it up as much as possible during the election. You and everybody else knows that if that laptop had belonged to Don. Jr., it would have been on the front page of every traditional media outlet in the country. That is the difference.
Again, the laptop was kept from mainstream media.

Deliberately.

Yet you complain they didn’t investigate it.

Your side caused the problem you’re complaining about. Your side prevented the media from doing the thing your side demanded they do.
 
BS.
You try to keep up, I know it's hard with all the lies coming from the Trump regime, makes it hard to keep track of the BS and lies

www.vox.com · policy-and-politics · 2019/1/10President Trump had an actual plan for making Mexico pay for ...


Jan 10, 2019 · “It’s an easy decision for Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion,” a campaign document titled “Pay for the Wall” from his presidential bid reads.
so a made up cite from a left wing source is your answer??????????? Duh, no.
 
I see. So your issue isn't with the classless piece of shit's predatory behavior.

You only take issue with the semantics.

That's about what I expect from the Trumpers these days. Trump sure did a number on your morals and ethics.
and who do you get your morals and ethics from? Schiff, Swalwell, Hillary, Gore, Schumer?
 
Again, the laptop was kept from mainstream media.

Deliberately.

Yet you complain they didn’t investigate it.

Your side caused the problem you’re complaining about. Your side prevented the media from doing the thing your side demanded they do.

And you honestly believe they would have reported on it fairly? He didn’t which is why he (mistakenly) provided it to the FBI. Just how bad does the trust have to be for him not to give this information to the traditional media knowing that it was legit? That exemplifies just how little trust he had in the traditional media to do their jobs. They actually had much of the information because it was given to the NY Post. They could read it just like we could read it. Suddenly, the traditional media acts as though they couldn’t report on something for which they didn’t have any hard evidence. It never stopped them in the past, particularly with any negative stories involvingTrump. Remember, this laptop story was scrubbed from Facebook as well. Democrats and the media didn’t want this information out prior to the election.
 
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And you honestly believe they would have reported on it fairly? He didn’t which is why he (mistakenly) provided it to the FBI. Just how bad does the trust have to be for him not to give this information to the traditional media knowing that it was legit? That exemplifies just how little trust he had in the traditional media to do their jobs. They actually had much of the information because it was given to the NY Post. They could read it just like we could read it. Suddenly, the traditional media acts as though they couldn’t report on something for which they didn’t have any hard evidence. It never stopped them in the past, particularly with any negative stories involvingTrump. Remember, this laptop story was scrubbed from Facebook as well. Democrats and the media didn’t want this information out prior to the election.
If you read the stories they wrote when they got access, you’d realize that they did do a fair job. Giuliani didn’t want a fair job. He wanted a hit job. That’s why he gave it to the NY Post, who we should both agree is pretty biased.

You can’t report based on what was reported by another agency, especially when that other agency is highly biased. That’s totally illogical.

Meanwhile, the biased conservative media published many lies about the laptop but you don’t care because you expect them to lie. It’s okay. Your double standards are glaring.
 
If you read the stories they wrote when they got access, you’d realize that they did do a fair job. Giuliani didn’t want a fair job. He wanted a hit job. That’s why he gave it to the NY Post, who we should both agree is pretty biased.

You can’t report based on what was reported by another agency, especially when that other agency is highly biased. That’s totally illogical.

Meanwhile, the biased conservative media published many lies about the laptop but you don’t care because you expect them to lie. It’s okay. Your double standards are glaring.
You're leaving out the part about the FBI "warning" the MSM that the laptop story was fake. It's pretty obvious what the motivation was there. Regardless of media biases, the most culpable party in this is the government itself, but there's a long history of our government using the media as its propaganda wing. It even does this to conservative media like Fox News, since every "democratic" regime likes to have controlled opposition.
 
As for the Greenland thing, the Danish government (and by extension, its media) has a vested interest in discrediting any attempts by the US to buy or leverage Greenland or for Greenland to become independent.
 
Your concept of what media is mainstream is ancient and outdated.

There’s traditional media, where people attempt to convey factual information.

And there’s entertainment media, where people don’t care about factual information, it’s just entertainment.

There’s traditional media, where people attempt to convey factual information.

Where does that still exist?
 
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