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I put myself through college working four nights a week bartending. I learned a skill. It paid more money than entry level no skill jobs! I did that when I was 18 years old. Do I expect a grown man to support himself? Yes...yes I do!you conclude TOO QUICKLY ------not enough evidence
What part of my "conclusion" was hasty? I'm sorry, Rosie but there are people out there with serious disabilities who get up and go to work every day. Why? Because they take pride in having a job and being self sufficient. This whiny little shit wants someone to feel sorry for him? Don't hold your breath...
you don't have ENOUGH data on this person to conclude that he can work---
believe it or not-------LONG AGO----I was a disability specialist.
He was able enough to be a burglar. Amazing how he could do THAT...but he can't hold down a job for 20 hours a week!
you do not have enough information to make a reasonable assessment of
the guy's ability. You expect a grown man to support himself on 20
hours of unskilled work? -----I did that as a student-----and made $20 per week
I put myself through college working four nights a week bartending. I learned a skill. It paid more money than entry level no skill jobs! I did that when I was 18 years old. Do I expect a grown man to support himself? Yes...yes I do!What part of my "conclusion" was hasty? I'm sorry, Rosie but there are people out there with serious disabilities who get up and go to work every day. Why? Because they take pride in having a job and being self sufficient. This whiny little shit wants someone to feel sorry for him? Don't hold your breath...
you don't have ENOUGH data on this person to conclude that he can work---
believe it or not-------LONG AGO----I was a disability specialist.
He was able enough to be a burglar. Amazing how he could do THAT...but he can't hold down a job for 20 hours a week!
you do not have enough information to make a reasonable assessment of
the guy's ability. You expect a grown man to support himself on 20
hours of unskilled work? -----I did that as a student-----and made $20 per week
I put myself thru college working at low paying jobs, tutoring kids who could not
pass high school geometry and-----taking loans which I repaid later on. SO? ---
I also put my profession to work evaluating DISABLED PEOPLE. Some people
cannot work-------even as a bartender. We do not have sufficient information on the person in question.
I'm sure you wish they were true.More fake newsCHICAGO (AP) — Having food stamps offers Richard Butler stability he’s rarely known in his 25 years. He was in state custody at age 2, spent his teen years at a Chicago boys’ home and jail for burglary, and has since struggled to find a permanent home.
The $194 deposited monthly on his benefits card buys fresh produce and meat.
“It means the world to me,” said Butler, who shares a one-bedroom apartment with two others. “We can go without a lot of things, like phones and music. We can’t go without eating.”
But that stability is being threatened for people like Butler, who are able-bodied, without dependents and between the ages 18 and 49. New Trump administration rules taking effect April 1 put hundreds of thousands of people in his situation at risk of losing their benefits. They hit particularly hard in places like Illinois, which also has been dealing with a separate, similar change in the nation's third-largest city.
From Hawaii to Pennsylvania, states are scrambling to blunt the impact, with roughly 700,000 people at risk of losing benefits unless they meet certain work, training or school requirements. They've filed a multi-state lawsuit, expanded publicly funded job training, developed pilot programs and doubled down efforts to reach vulnerable communities, including the homeless, rural residents and people of color.
States scramble to prepare ahead of food stamps rule change
Just a little something different from the 50 primary topics today.
For the last year or so, all we have seen are the leftists on this board protest Trump's spending. Well, Trump heard your pleas. Now he's cutting spending. This is not a new idea, it's been implemented in many of the Republican governed states, and seems to have been successful.
Now that Trump is cutting the budget to reduce the deficit, how many of you spending complainers approve of his idea? After all, the economy is doing well, so you can't complain that some people can't get a job. It won't hurt our elderly as the age limit is up to 49. It won't hurt the children because these standards only apply to those with no dependents. What can you object to?
A majority of the folks on SNAP are Trump supporters. This won't go well for the Mango Menace.
got a link???
How many you need? Remember, these are largely the poorly educated that Donald so loves.
Trump-Voting States Most Utilize SNAP (Food Stamps) | hungerfreeamerica.org
Trump Voters Would Be Hit Hardest by GOP’s Food Stamp Work Rules
The Trump administration plans to gut food stamps, hitting red states hardest
Federal Anti-Poverty Programs Primarily Help the GOP's Base
SNAP food stamp programs will hurt Trump supporters most
Translation: Me and my Trumpy pals don't care for facts - - - so we make up our own.
What part of my "conclusion" was hasty? I'm sorry, Rosie but there are people out there with serious disabilities who get up and go to work every day. Why? Because they take pride in having a job and being self sufficient. This whiny little shit wants someone to feel sorry for him? Don't hold your breath...
you don't have ENOUGH data on this person to conclude that he can work---
believe it or not-------LONG AGO----I was a disability specialist.
If he can't work that's different. But if that's the case, he's on disability and it pays enough to buy your own food. One of my tenants is on disability. He got like ten bucks a month in food stamps. When he started working part-time, they took that away.
"disability" is for people who USED TO WORK-----not for people who did not work or worked very little. SSI is disabled people who never worked-----nope---
not enough to support anyone------he would have to have a grandma willing
to care for him---house him etc. It's a matter of how much the person gets
per month. ------SSI at about ??? $ 600 per month does not even rent a
room in a flop house
It all depends on what they give you. I find it unlikely that a 25 year old is disabled. If he was, I think this article (which seemed to be trying to draw sympathy) would have included that factor. Somebody I know took care of her disabled son since he was a young kid. They lived off of his disability check and I know he never worked a day in his life. He was bed ridden.
He passed away about two years ago, and the government cutoff the check he and his mother lived off of. She found herself in her early 60's with no work experience or SS account, and was forced to move in with her daughters family. I think in that situation, the government should have taken care of the mother since she saved the government hundreds of thousands of dollars by not dumping her son off to them.
SSI for disabled persons who are not eligible for SOCIAL SECURITY disability----
is a fixed amount------not "what they are willing to give you" I cannot get into
all the rules and DO NOT KNOW all of them------but if the lady had ever been married----by 62 she would be eligible
for SS for dependents------otherwise------SSI herself. -----also---food stamps.
There are all sorts of provisions-----none of them provide a FORTUNE . -----
you don't know either
you don't have ENOUGH data on this person to conclude that he can work---
believe it or not-------LONG AGO----I was a disability specialist.
If he can't work that's different. But if that's the case, he's on disability and it pays enough to buy your own food. One of my tenants is on disability. He got like ten bucks a month in food stamps. When he started working part-time, they took that away.
"disability" is for people who USED TO WORK-----not for people who did not work or worked very little. SSI is disabled people who never worked-----nope---
not enough to support anyone------he would have to have a grandma willing
to care for him---house him etc. It's a matter of how much the person gets
per month. ------SSI at about ??? $ 600 per month does not even rent a
room in a flop house
It all depends on what they give you. I find it unlikely that a 25 year old is disabled. If he was, I think this article (which seemed to be trying to draw sympathy) would have included that factor. Somebody I know took care of her disabled son since he was a young kid. They lived off of his disability check and I know he never worked a day in his life. He was bed ridden.
He passed away about two years ago, and the government cutoff the check he and his mother lived off of. She found herself in her early 60's with no work experience or SS account, and was forced to move in with her daughters family. I think in that situation, the government should have taken care of the mother since she saved the government hundreds of thousands of dollars by not dumping her son off to them.
SSI for disabled persons who are not eligible for SOCIAL SECURITY disability----
is a fixed amount------not "what they are willing to give you" I cannot get into
all the rules and DO NOT KNOW all of them------but if the lady had ever been married----by 62 she would be eligible
for SS for dependents------otherwise------SSI herself. -----also---food stamps.
There are all sorts of provisions-----none of them provide a FORTUNE . -----
you don't know either
All I know is what she told me. I do know that she couldn't work. Taking care of her son was 24/7. And she paid rent in a nice suburb so I know that wasn't cheap either. I also know that she did this with his disability benefits. I don't know anything about her marriage, but she was single when her son passed away.
I put myself through college working four nights a week bartending. I learned a skill. It paid more money than entry level no skill jobs! I did that when I was 18 years old. Do I expect a grown man to support himself? Yes...yes I do!you don't have ENOUGH data on this person to conclude that he can work---
believe it or not-------LONG AGO----I was a disability specialist.
He was able enough to be a burglar. Amazing how he could do THAT...but he can't hold down a job for 20 hours a week!
you do not have enough information to make a reasonable assessment of
the guy's ability. You expect a grown man to support himself on 20
hours of unskilled work? -----I did that as a student-----and made $20 per week
I put myself thru college working at low paying jobs, tutoring kids who could not
pass high school geometry and-----taking loans which I repaid later on. SO? ---
I also put my profession to work evaluating DISABLED PEOPLE. Some people
cannot work-------even as a bartender. We do not have sufficient information on the person in question.
Even as a bartender? Honey, bartending was the best paying part time job there was! It's why I chose it. You worked low paying jobs because that's what you could get with your skill level. That's life. I made more money than you did because I had a marketable skill. That's also life.
The person in question chose crime instead of learning a skill. That's on him...not the system.
You're the one who "assumes" he's disabled! I assume he's not. I base that on him doing time for burglary. How many disabled burglars have you ever heard of, Rosie? Again...stop with the bullshit!
The article says he is able bodied. He's not disabled. Richard Butler is 25 years old. Still a dependent of the government. When will he not be dependent on the government? What's he doing to get off EBT?You're the one who "assumes" he's disabled! I assume he's not. I base that on him doing time for burglary. How many disabled burglars have you ever heard of, Rosie? Again...stop with the bullshit!
I put myself through college working four nights a week bartending. I learned a skill. It paid more money than entry level no skill jobs! I did that when I was 18 years old. Do I expect a grown man to support himself? Yes...yes I do!He was able enough to be a burglar. Amazing how he could do THAT...but he can't hold down a job for 20 hours a week!
you do not have enough information to make a reasonable assessment of
the guy's ability. You expect a grown man to support himself on 20
hours of unskilled work? -----I did that as a student-----and made $20 per week
I put myself thru college working at low paying jobs, tutoring kids who could not
pass high school geometry and-----taking loans which I repaid later on. SO? ---
I also put my profession to work evaluating DISABLED PEOPLE. Some people
cannot work-------even as a bartender. We do not have sufficient information on the person in question.
Even as a bartender? Honey, bartending was the best paying part time job there was! It's why I chose it. You worked low paying jobs because that's what you could get with your skill level. That's life. I made more money than you did because I had a marketable skill. That's also life.
The person in question chose crime instead of learning a skill. That's on him...not the system.
I fail to see your point-----yes BARTENDING is quite lucrative------what I did
in my student days was not--------my degree turned out to be much more valuable than being a bartender. I was DELIGHTED that I was able to get that low paying ----almost completely unskilled job during my student days-----all I needed
was an almost ability to use a typewriter-----and an ability to converse CLEARLY.
and stand on my feet. As a tutor in High School math and physics------I needed
an understanding of math and physics that SURPRISELY, TO ME-----lots of
bartenders who graduated High School-----do not have. We still do not have
sufficient information on the case in question. I will give you a theoretical-----
Do you know what NEUROFIBROMATOSIS is? Some people are so
afflicted that they cannot do any kind of a job that SHOWS THEIR FACES. ----
then there are sicknesses that simply do not SHOW at all
CHICAGO (AP) — Having food stamps offers Richard Butler stability he’s rarely known in his 25 years. He was in state custody at age 2, spent his teen years at a Chicago boys’ home and jail for burglary, and has since struggled to find a permanent home.
The $194 deposited monthly on his benefits card buys fresh produce and meat.
“It means the world to me,” said Butler, who shares a one-bedroom apartment with two others. “We can go without a lot of things, like phones and music. We can’t go without eating.”
But that stability is being threatened for people like Butler, who are able-bodied, without dependents and between the ages 18 and 49. New Trump administration rules taking effect April 1 put hundreds of thousands of people in his situation at risk of losing their benefits. They hit particularly hard in places like Illinois, which also has been dealing with a separate, similar change in the nation's third-largest city.
From Hawaii to Pennsylvania, states are scrambling to blunt the impact, with roughly 700,000 people at risk of losing benefits unless they meet certain work, training or school requirements. They've filed a multi-state lawsuit, expanded publicly funded job training, developed pilot programs and doubled down efforts to reach vulnerable communities, including the homeless, rural residents and people of color.
States scramble to prepare ahead of food stamps rule change
Just a little something different from the 50 primary topics today.
For the last year or so, all we have seen are the leftists on this board protest Trump's spending. Well, Trump heard your pleas. Now he's cutting spending. This is not a new idea, it's been implemented in many of the Republican governed states, and seems to have been successful.
Now that Trump is cutting the budget to reduce the deficit, how many of you spending complainers approve of his idea? After all, the economy is doing well, so you can't complain that some people can't get a job. It won't hurt our elderly as the age limit is up to 49. It won't hurt the children because these standards only apply to those with no dependents. What can you object to?
This guy is unmarried and living with two others in a one deb apartment... He has little in life and you think he needs motivation by making him starve...
This guy didn't have a great time growing up.. Thing is you don't care, has he refused programs? are the programs any good?
Let's start, Why didn't Trump increase funding for public funding job training first, are you sure there is enough spaces?
I put myself through college working four nights a week bartending. I learned a skill. It paid more money than entry level no skill jobs! I did that when I was 18 years old. Do I expect a grown man to support himself? Yes...yes I do!you do not have enough information to make a reasonable assessment of
the guy's ability. You expect a grown man to support himself on 20
hours of unskilled work? -----I did that as a student-----and made $20 per week
I put myself thru college working at low paying jobs, tutoring kids who could not
pass high school geometry and-----taking loans which I repaid later on. SO? ---
I also put my profession to work evaluating DISABLED PEOPLE. Some people
cannot work-------even as a bartender. We do not have sufficient information on the person in question.
Even as a bartender? Honey, bartending was the best paying part time job there was! It's why I chose it. You worked low paying jobs because that's what you could get with your skill level. That's life. I made more money than you did because I had a marketable skill. That's also life.
The person in question chose crime instead of learning a skill. That's on him...not the system.
I fail to see your point-----yes BARTENDING is quite lucrative------what I did
in my student days was not--------my degree turned out to be much more valuable than being a bartender. I was DELIGHTED that I was able to get that low paying ----almost completely unskilled job during my student days-----all I needed
was an almost ability to use a typewriter-----and an ability to converse CLEARLY.
and stand on my feet. As a tutor in High School math and physics------I needed
an understanding of math and physics that SURPRISELY, TO ME-----lots of
bartenders who graduated High School-----do not have. We still do not have
sufficient information on the case in question. I will give you a theoretical-----
Do you know what NEUROFIBROMATOSIS is? Some people are so
afflicted that they cannot do any kind of a job that SHOWS THEIR FACES. ----
then there are sicknesses that simply do not SHOW at all
My point, Rosie is that we all make choices in life. This person chose to be a criminal. I have no idea what the circumstances were surrounding that decision but it obviously hasn't worked out well for him. The good news for him is that he's still a very young man who if he starts making good choices can turn things around but that's a choice that HE has to make! Nobody can make it for him. Playing the victim isn't a good choice.
I didn't gather from the limited information provided about this young man that he was physically impaired. I got the impression that he grew up in less than ideal circumstances. I feel for him on that regard but it doesn't excuse his bad choices. One of my best friends from college lost both of his parents in a car accident when he was sixteen years old...he dropped out of High School and worked at a tire recapping factory to support his two younger siblings and the grandmother who was their legal guardian but was too elderly to work. When his brother and sister had graduated from High School this young man got his GED through the Jobs Corps and then started college at the age of 26. He retired not long ago as a bank President. Did I mention that his family had just emigrated from Poland before the accident and he didn't speak English well at all? So explain why THAT person was able to extricate himself (and his family) from a really awful situation and make something of himself...while your guy is sitting around whining about his food stamps getting cut!
This guy is unmarried and living with two others in a one deb apartment... He has little in life and you think he needs motivation by making him starve...
This guy didn't have a great time growing up.. Thing is you don't care
Let's start, Why didn't Trump increase funding for public funding job training first, are you sure there is enough spaces?
I think the tax cuts could cover poor people's food. And btw did you know Trump's going to cut aid to rural schools who try to prove poverty through school lunch access.
CHICAGO (AP) — Having food stamps offers Richard Butler stability he’s rarely known in his 25 years. He was in state custody at age 2, spent his teen years at a Chicago boys’ home and jail for burglary, and has since struggled to find a permanent home.
The $194 deposited monthly on his benefits card buys fresh produce and meat.
“It means the world to me,” said Butler, who shares a one-bedroom apartment with two others. “We can go without a lot of things, like phones and music. We can’t go without eating.”
But that stability is being threatened for people like Butler, who are able-bodied, without dependents and between the ages 18 and 49. New Trump administration rules taking effect April 1 put hundreds of thousands of people in his situation at risk of losing their benefits. They hit particularly hard in places like Illinois, which also has been dealing with a separate, similar change in the nation's third-largest city.
From Hawaii to Pennsylvania, states are scrambling to blunt the impact, with roughly 700,000 people at risk of losing benefits unless they meet certain work, training or school requirements. They've filed a multi-state lawsuit, expanded publicly funded job training, developed pilot programs and doubled down efforts to reach vulnerable communities, including the homeless, rural residents and people of color.
States scramble to prepare ahead of food stamps rule change
Just a little something different from the 50 primary topics today.
For the last year or so, all we have seen are the leftists on this board protest Trump's spending. Well, Trump heard your pleas. Now he's cutting spending. This is not a new idea, it's been implemented in many of the Republican governed states, and seems to have been successful.
Now that Trump is cutting the budget to reduce the deficit, how many of you spending complainers approve of his idea? After all, the economy is doing well, so you can't complain that some people can't get a job. It won't hurt our elderly as the age limit is up to 49. It won't hurt the children because these standards only apply to those with no dependents. What can you object to?
This guy is unmarried and living with two others in a one deb apartment... He has little in life and you think he needs motivation by making him starve...
This guy didn't have a great time growing up.. Thing is you don't care, has he refused programs? are the programs any good?
Let's start, Why didn't Trump increase funding for public funding job training first, are you sure there is enough spaces?
you conclude TOO QUICKLY ------not enough evidence
What part of my "conclusion" was hasty? I'm sorry, Rosie but there are people out there with serious disabilities who get up and go to work every day. Why? Because they take pride in having a job and being self sufficient. This whiny little shit wants someone to feel sorry for him? Don't hold your breath...
you don't have ENOUGH data on this person to conclude that he can work---
believe it or not-------LONG AGO----I was a disability specialist.
He was able enough to be a burglar. Amazing how he could do THAT...but he can't hold down a job for 20 hours a week!
you do not have enough information to make a reasonable assessment of
the guy's ability. You expect a grown man to support himself on 20
hours of unskilled work? -----I did that as a student-----and made $20 per week
You made a dollar an hour? Where were you going to school...the Sudan? Stop with the bullshit!
CHICAGO (AP) — Having food stamps offers Richard Butler stability he’s rarely known in his 25 years. He was in state custody at age 2, spent his teen years at a Chicago boys’ home and jail for burglary, and has since struggled to find a permanent home.
The $194 deposited monthly on his benefits card buys fresh produce and meat.
“It means the world to me,” said Butler, who shares a one-bedroom apartment with two others. “We can go without a lot of things, like phones and music. We can’t go without eating.”
But that stability is being threatened for people like Butler, who are able-bodied, without dependents and between the ages 18 and 49. New Trump administration rules taking effect April 1 put hundreds of thousands of people in his situation at risk of losing their benefits. They hit particularly hard in places like Illinois, which also has been dealing with a separate, similar change in the nation's third-largest city.
From Hawaii to Pennsylvania, states are scrambling to blunt the impact, with roughly 700,000 people at risk of losing benefits unless they meet certain work, training or school requirements. They've filed a multi-state lawsuit, expanded publicly funded job training, developed pilot programs and doubled down efforts to reach vulnerable communities, including the homeless, rural residents and people of color.
States scramble to prepare ahead of food stamps rule change
Just a little something different from the 50 primary topics today.
For the last year or so, all we have seen are the leftists on this board protest Trump's spending. Well, Trump heard your pleas. Now he's cutting spending. This is not a new idea, it's been implemented in many of the Republican governed states, and seems to have been successful.
Now that Trump is cutting the budget to reduce the deficit, how many of you spending complainers approve of his idea? After all, the economy is doing well, so you can't complain that some people can't get a job. It won't hurt our elderly as the age limit is up to 49. It won't hurt the children because these standards only apply to those with no dependents. What can you object to?
This guy is unmarried and living with two others in a one deb apartment... He has little in life and you think he needs motivation by making him starve...
This guy didn't have a great time growing up.. Thing is you don't care, has he refused programs? are the programs any good?
Let's start, Why didn't Trump increase funding for public funding job training first, are you sure there is enough spaces?
Why hasn't the guy done any job training before?
