Litwin
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Great Move Brothers ! The horde will be destroyed !
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Not really. Russia could just pull out and stay in their own country, as the vast majority of countries do.This is likely within the rules of the war too. But the problem is that they have to be delivered to the Ukraine in mass because it's too riskly for Ukoslavs to drive them individually. And when they are delivered as pictured, Russia is very successful at destroying weapons being delivered to the Ukraine.
In the real world, there's no value in celebrating a supposed victory for one side, when it's going to be countered by the other side. It's just causing further escalation of the war between America and Russia, as it costs hundreds of Ukrainian lives every day.
Some sort of discussion is needed and it requires that biases be set aside for it to happen.
But you are comparing Russia to civilized nations, and clearly Russia can no longer be counted among their ranks.Not really. Russia could just pull out and stay in their own country, as the vast majority of countries do.
It's actually not a bad piece of equipment from what I have read. Just depends on the maintenance. Design characteristic, armor, armament, trafficability are fine for it's necessary niche in operations.I will keep checking eBay for "Yugoslav-made M-80 infantry fighting vehicles" from Zelen$ky, one of my favorite Sellers
Let's not go there White. You're better than that. But if you insist, I'll hit back hard and I don't think we want that right now.Not really. Russia could just pull out and stay in their own country, as the vast majority of countries do.
It's actually not a bad piece of equipment from what I have read. Just depends on the maintenance. Design characteristic, armor, armament, trafficability are fine for it's necessary niche in operations.
Don't really care. You know I side with Ukraine, NATO and US foreign policy and have, going all the way back to when operating in Europe, during the Cold War, at least as far a NATO and US Foreign Policy.Let's not go there White. You're better than that. But if you insist, I'll hit back hard and I don't think we want that right now.
Yes, I know that but you're deflecting from the issue, and I find that quite acceptable as long as you do. I'm not inviting it with you White, I make my feelings well known with many others.Don't really care. You know I side with Ukraine, NATO and US foreign policy and have, going all the way back to when operating in Europe, during the Cold War, at least as far a NATO and US Foreign Policy.
What make you think so? They have successfully repurposed many of the Russian vehicles, capture during the illegal attack on Ukraine, many of which required maintenance due to Ukrainian combat damage, as well as the dumb ass Russians, just running out of fuel and abandoning.Those idiot Ukraninians will just fuck it up anyway. Why bother?
Russia sucks hard, but im tired of the romanticized version of Ukraine. These are corrupt motherfuckers. Yes, they are being unfairly attacked by a bully, but they still suck. If they had made steps to clean up their act before this war, i might be more sympathetic, but Ukraine is a place where evil has been allowed to thrive, so fuck them.What make you think so? They have successfully repurposed many of the Russian vehicles, capture during the illegal attack on Ukraine, many of which required maintenance due to Ukrainian combat damage, as well as the dumb ass Russians, just running out of fuel and abandoning.
I am glad I gave no romanticized version of the Ukrainians receiving these gifted M-80 troop carrier/fighting vehicles by friendly a friendly nation supporting their war to resist the invasion of Ukraine by Russia. I hear you, but it has no bearing on the M-80s or Ukraine's use of them.Russia sucks hard, but im tired of the romanticized version of Ukraine. These are corrupt motherfuckers. Yes, they are being unfairly attacked by a bully, but they still suck. If they had made steps to clean up their act before this war, i might be more sympathetic, but Ukraine is a place where evil has been allowed to thrive, so fuck them.
If they are anything like Litwin, they will fuck it up.I am glad I gave no romanticized version of the Ukrainians receiving these gifted M-80 troop carrier/fighting vehicles by friendly a friendly nation supporting their war to resist the invasion of Ukraine by Russia. I hear you, but it has no bearing on the M-80s or Ukraine's use of them.
you ivan slave, any comment on this ?Those idiot
I'm no Ivan. I'm an American and tired of these pointless foreign wars.edit for you Ivan, eBay.ru
Ukraine does do poorly in the world corruption index, but Russia's score is even worse, and all the countries in that part of the world score poorly. There is, however, a vast cultural difference between Ukraine and Russia which makes supporting Ukraine against Russian aggression the obvious choice for anyone who lives in the free world. Ukraine is a liberal democracy very similar to other European democracies and Russia, once on the path to becoming a democracy, has been dragged down by Putin into being a fascist state: that means in Ukraine, the state is there to serve the needs of the people, but in Russia the people are only there to serve the needs of the state.Russia sucks hard, but im tired of the romanticized version of Ukraine. These are corrupt motherfuckers. Yes, they are being unfairly attacked by a bully, but they still suck. If they had made steps to clean up their act before this war, i might be more sympathetic, but Ukraine is a place where evil has been allowed to thrive, so fuck them.