"Sleeper Cells" in America?

[EvilCat Breath]

The most dangerous cell is the democrats.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Yep. This is what I am talking about when I say that neither Trump nor the MAGATS have studied the opposition they are now up against. Nobody is safe in America because of what Trump has done.

If they are here, then what are they waiting on? Now is the time for them to start attacking.

 

[IM2]

Democrats are such moronic idiots.
Muslime terrorists don’t need any excuses or command to mass murder. They do it anyway.

Here we see more projection. Christian nations have had 2 world wars and many other conflicts killing millions.

 

[Stryder50]

I want 4 parties, then I would like that to mushroom into 10 or more parties. I think the problem today with a third party is that the dumocraps completely abandoned the center of the political spectrum for a platform that doesn't represent much of the population and is very far from the center. This vacuum in the center made it easy for the GOP to get control of the kitchen table issues and the 80:20 issues. The GOP, despite the fascist rhetoric of the far left, actually took over the center of American politics. The best thing that could happen to America is the dumocrap party splits into the Batshit Insane Radical Progressive Party and the Less Insane But Fundamentally Stupid Democratic Party. Then today's GOP should split into MAGA and the Old School Conservative Party. Then no party will ever again enjoy a majority and they must all work together if they want to be included at the big boys table.

According to my voter's pamphet last major election, looked like somewhere between 4-10 already.
Most are very small and likely of little effect.
Closest 3rd would be the Libertarian.

 

[Independent thinker]

I Believe that they do exist in America, as well as in the "Christian West", and that they are waiting to be called to Act.

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"The death of Ali Khamenei may mark the end of one man's rule--but it could ignite a far more unpredictable and dangerous phase of conflict. Security analysts and intelligence officials are sounding alarms that Tehran's retaliation may not come only through missiles or proxies abroad, but through something far harder to detect and stop: sleeper cells and radicalized lone actors already living in Western societies.

Former Israeli intelligence chief Yossi Kuperwasser, now affiliated with the Jerusalem Institute for Strategy and Security, warned that dormant operatives linked to Tehran exist "around the globe" and could be activated to strike targets tied to U.S. or allied interests. Having led research for the Israel Defense Forces intelligence division, Kuperwasser's assessment is not speculation from the sidelines--it reflects decades of watching how state sponsors of terrorism behave after losing key leaders.



His message is blunt: sleeper networks are designed precisely for moments like this. They wait silently for years, blending into communities, building ordinary lives, and then, when triggered, they act. The activation signal could be direct orders, coded online messages, or instructions relayed through intermediaries already embedded in Western countries. According to Julian Richards of the University of Buckingham, such cells can be "virtually impossible to spot" until they move."

America On Alert: Iran's Sleeper Cells And The Rising Lone-Wolf Threat

Sleeper networks are designed precisely for moments like this. They wait silently for years, blending into communities, building ordinary lives, and then, when triggered, they act.

www.prophecynewswatch.com

Well, when is it they are supposed to be called on to act? It's either now or never and so far, we've had one lone gunman kill some people. This doesn't look good for the sleeper cell theory. Even if Iran had no way to communicate with their sleeper cells, they should have had the iniative to act by themselves already.

 

[IM2]

People think Trump was elected to clean up Biden's mess. He was elected to clean up Biden's mess, Obama's mess, Bush's mess, Clinton's mess, Carter's mess and even some of the mess Reagan left us and many other presidents before him. This government has lost it's way and it is is time to get back on track before it is just too late.

Trump is making a mess.

 

[IM2]

If they are here, then what are they waiting on? Now is the time for them to start attacking.

Be careful about what you're asking for.

 

[g5000]

I Believe that they do exist in America, as well as in the "Christian West", and that they are waiting to be called to Act.

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"The death of Ali Khamenei may mark the end of one man's rule--but it could ignite a far more unpredictable and dangerous phase of conflict. Security analysts and intelligence officials are sounding alarms that Tehran's retaliation may not come only through missiles or proxies abroad, but through something far harder to detect and stop: sleeper cells and radicalized lone actors already living in Western societies.

Former Israeli intelligence chief Yossi Kuperwasser, now affiliated with the Jerusalem Institute for Strategy and Security, warned that dormant operatives linked to Tehran exist "around the globe" and could be activated to strike targets tied to U.S. or allied interests. Having led research for the Israel Defense Forces intelligence division, Kuperwasser's assessment is not speculation from the sidelines--it reflects decades of watching how state sponsors of terrorism behave after losing key leaders.



His message is blunt: sleeper networks are designed precisely for moments like this. They wait silently for years, blending into communities, building ordinary lives, and then, when triggered, they act. The activation signal could be direct orders, coded online messages, or instructions relayed through intermediaries already embedded in Western countries. According to Julian Richards of the University of Buckingham, such cells can be "virtually impossible to spot" until they move."

America On Alert: Iran's Sleeper Cells And The Rising Lone-Wolf Threat

Sleeper networks are designed precisely for moments like this. They wait silently for years, blending into communities, building ordinary lives, and then, when triggered, they act.

www.prophecynewswatch.com

You've read too many old spy novels.

What happens in times like this is that mentally unstable people take their cues from what they see and hear on social media. It could be a white supremacist whackjob, or an Islamacist whackjob. Whatever.

And what with millions and millions and hundreds of millions of guns sloshing around up to our necks in America, it is easy peasy for such whackjobs to act on their sudden impulses.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Again, lets hope fears of sleeper cells are misplaced.

 

[Dorian Mode]

Trump is making a mess

of the dumocrap party. Well, actually a lot of the damage to the dumocrap party was self inflicted.

 

[Dorian Mode]

Again, lets hope fears of sleeper cells are misplaced.

Hopefully most have already been deported. Unless radical democrap judges are harboring them.

 

[IM2]

Well, when is it they are supposed to be called on to act? It's either now or never and so far, we've had one lone gunman kill some people. This doesn't look good for the sleeper cell theory. Even if Iran had no way to communicate with their sleeper cells, they should have had the iniative to act by themselves already.

We have stopped attempt ove the years thanks to foreign intelligence tips coming from people they got from the cells over there, but you morons electe trump, and he's offened our allies.

 

[IM2]

Hopefully most have already been deported. Unless radical democrap judges are harboring them.

Wrong.

 

[debbiedowner]

I Believe that they do exist in America, as well as in the "Christian West", and that they are waiting to be called to Act.

============

"The death of Ali Khamenei may mark the end of one man's rule--but it could ignite a far more unpredictable and dangerous phase of conflict. Security analysts and intelligence officials are sounding alarms that Tehran's retaliation may not come only through missiles or proxies abroad, but through something far harder to detect and stop: sleeper cells and radicalized lone actors already living in Western societies.

Former Israeli intelligence chief Yossi Kuperwasser, now affiliated with the Jerusalem Institute for Strategy and Security, warned that dormant operatives linked to Tehran exist "around the globe" and could be activated to strike targets tied to U.S. or allied interests. Having led research for the Israel Defense Forces intelligence division, Kuperwasser's assessment is not speculation from the sidelines--it reflects decades of watching how state sponsors of terrorism behave after losing key leaders.



His message is blunt: sleeper networks are designed precisely for moments like this. They wait silently for years, blending into communities, building ordinary lives, and then, when triggered, they act. The activation signal could be direct orders, coded online messages, or instructions relayed through intermediaries already embedded in Western countries. According to Julian Richards of the University of Buckingham, such cells can be "virtually impossible to spot" until they move."

America On Alert: Iran's Sleeper Cells And The Rising Lone-Wolf Threat

Sleeper networks are designed precisely for moments like this. They wait silently for years, blending into communities, building ordinary lives, and then, when triggered, they act.

www.prophecynewswatch.com

So, wonder who at the FBI is tracking these Iranian sleeper cells? Have to train a bunch of new guys since the agents on this task force and the data tracking system were all fired a week or so ago by Patel. Why, it was the same group of counter terorism agents who raided mara lago in 2022. Guess we just don't need these type of agents any longer. Maybe, Patel can use that FBI swat team that is guarding his girl friend day and night.

 

[IM2]

of the dumocrap party. Well, actually a lot of the damage to the dumocrap party was self inflicted.

He is f-ing up this country.

 

[debbiedowner]

Every U.S. president since World War II has used military force without prior congressional approval for major actions.[pogo]

The last formal declaration of war was in 1942 during World War II, and since then, presidents have relied on their commander-in-chief powers under Article II. This practice began notably with Harry Truman's Korean War deployment in 1950, labeled a "police action," setting a precedent.usatoday+3

Key Examples​

• Truman (1950): Korea – troops sent without declaration.[facebook]
• Eisenhower (1958): Lebanon – air and naval forces deployed.[facebook]
• Kennedy (1961): Bay of Pigs in Cuba.[facebook]
• Johnson (1964): Initial Vietnam airstrikes before Gulf of Tonkin Resolution.[facebook]
• Nixon (1969-1973): Bombings in Cambodia and Laos.[facebook]
• Reagan (1983, 1986): Grenada invasion, Libya bombings.robertcliftonrobinson+1
• G.H.W. Bush (1989, 1990): Panama invasion, initial Gulf War airstrikes.[facebook]
• Clinton (1995-1999): Bosnia, Iraq (Desert Fox), Kosovo.robertcliftonrobinson+1
• G.W. Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden: Drone strikes, Syria, Libya, Soleimani, etc., often under 2001/2002 AUMFs but without new approvals.usatoday+1

Legal Context​

The War Powers Resolution of 1973 requires notification within 48 hours and limits deployments to 60 days without approval, but every president since its passage has taken actions without prior authorization, notifying afterward. One source claims 43 of 45 presidents total have done so, excluding only early ones like William Henry Harrison and perhaps another. Recent examples include President Trump's 2026 Iran strikes.axios+3

I asked why Thomas Jefferson was left off that list and the reply was as follows:

Why was Jefferson left off the list?

Jefferson is not actually an exception; he did use military force, but he is often treated differently because he stayed within explicit, early congressional authorizations and defensive limits.

What Jefferson did​

• In 1801, Jefferson sent a naval squadron to the Mediterranean in response to Tripoli’s threats and then de facto declaration of war, telling his commanders to protect U.S. commerce and ships.
• He stated he was “unauthorized by the constitution, without the sanction of Congress, to go beyond the line of defense,” and initially confined U.S. actions to defensive measures.
• Congress then passed the 1802 “Act for the protection of commerce and seamen of the United States against the Tripolitan cruisers,” explicitly authorizing him to employ the Navy offensively against Tripoli.

Why some lists omit him​

• Some modern tallies define “using military force without Congress” as acting without either a declaration of war or a specific statutory authorization like the 1802 act, and they focus mainly on post‑WWII practice.
• Because Jefferson sought and operated under targeted statutes and emphasized staying within defensive authority until Congress acted, some commentators treat him as an example of compliance with the constitutional allocation of war powers, not of unilateral presidential war‑making.

So if a list is counting presidents who attacked without any prior congressional authorization at all, its author may consciously leave Jefferson off on the theory that the Barbary actions were statutorily grounded and largely defensive at the outset.

Bottom line is I think that the Founding Fathers would have understood the powers granted to the President in this time.

If the Democrats don't want Presidents doing this, they are going to have to act and pass a law.

Until then, I think the argument that our Founding Fathers did not agree with this is incorrect.

There is a lot going on in this country from the left that the Founding Fathers would find abhorrent, but that isn't the subject of this thread.

Which President has assissinated another country's leader?

 

[IM2]

Which President has assissinated another country's leader?

There is an autoexcuse for anything Trump does.

 

[Darkwind]

Which President has assissinated another country's leader?

There is no single complete list, but there are well-documented cases where a state either directly killed, or orchestrated the killing of, another country’s head of state or government.wikipedia+1
Below are some of the clearest, widely accepted examples (focusing on cases where another state was involved, not lone gunmen or purely internal coups):

Pre–World War II examples​

• Japan → China (1928): Officers of Imperial Japan’s Kwantung Army blew up the train of Chinese warlord and head of state Zhang Zuolin near Shenyang on 4 June 1928, killing him, in an attempt to reshape Manchurian politics in Japan’s favor.[en.wikipedia]
• (Disputed foreign role) Yugoslavia’s King Alexander I (1934): Assassin was a Macedonian nationalist, with alleged support from elements in Italy and Hungary, though direct state responsibility is debated.[en.wikipedia]

Cold War era​

These are mostly covert, often denied, but strongly supported by later investigations and declassified material.

• United States → Dominican Republic (1961)
  • Target: Rafael Trujillo, long‑time dictator and de facto head of state.
  • Event: Trujillo was ambushed and killed by Dominican conspirators; a U.S. Senate Church Committee later found the CIA had supplied weapons and encouragement to plotters looking to remove him.intelligence.senate+1
• United States → South Vietnam (1963)
  • Target: Ngo Dinh Diem, President of South Vietnam.
  • Event: Diem was overthrown and shot after a military coup; the Church Committee concluded the U.S. had encouraged and supported the coup, knowing Diem was likely to be killed.wikipedia+1
• United States → Chile (1970–1973, partial cases)
  • Target: Gen. René Schneider, Chilean army commander-in-chief (1970).
    • Schneider was killed after a kidnapping attempt by Chilean officers; the Church Committee reported the CIA had provided weapons and support to groups opposed to his “constitutionalism,” though the U.S. officially denied intending his death.intelligence.senate+1
  • Target: President Salvador Allende (1973).
    • Allende died during the coup led by Gen. Pinochet; official finding in Chile is suicide, but U.S. covert support for the coup itself is extensively documented.cnn+1
• Alleged U.S. plots → Cuba (1960s, failed)
  • Target: Fidel Castro.
  • Multiple CIA plots (poison, explosives, Mafia contacts) were documented by the Church Committee and later histories, but none succeeded; Castro died in 2016.ctvnews+1
• Pakistan (with foreign backing alleged) → Bangladesh (1975, contested)
  • Target: Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, founding president of Bangladesh.
  • Event: Killed in a coup by Bangladeshi army officers; some historians note rumors of CIA sympathy or encouragement, but hard proof of direct U.S. operational control is lacking.[historyextra]

Post–Cold War and recent examples​

Here the line between “official state action” and “intelligence‑backed covert hit” is sometimes clearer, especially where leaders were openly targeted in war or counter‑terror campaigns.

• United States + NATO allies → Libya (2011, attempted)
  • Target: Muammar Gaddafi, de facto Libyan head of state.
  • NATO’s air campaign supported rebels; Gaddafi was ultimately killed by rebel fighters after his convoy was bombed from the air. Publicly, NATO denied a personal assassination policy and framed strikes as military targets, but in practice allied air power directly enabled his capture and killing.statista+1
• Israel (with U.S. support in some operations) → Iran (senior officials, but not head of state)
  • Multiple high-profile killings (e.g., nuclear scientist Mohsen Fakhrizadeh in 2020) widely attributed to Israeli intelligence; Iran’s actual heads of state/supreme leaders have not been successfully assassinated.2017-2021.state+1
• Iran → Dissidents and ex‑officials abroad (not sitting heads of state)
  • Iran’s intelligence services have been linked to assassinations or plots against exiled opposition figures and defectors in Europe, the Middle East, and North America, but these people were not serving leaders of foreign states.opb+1

Important caveats​

• Most assassinated leaders are killed domestically.
  The majority of heads of state/government on global assassination lists are killed by their own military, security services, rebels, or lone attackers (examples: Rwanda’s Juvénal Habyarimana, Nepal’s King Birendra, Haiti’s Jovenel Moïse), not another sovereign state.statista+1
• State role is often covert or disputed.
  In many cases we have strong circumstantial evidence or later testimony (e.g., Church Committee for U.S. plots, or court findings on Iranian or Taiwanese operations abroad), but the sponsoring government may never formally admit ordering the killing.2017-2021.state+2
• Legal and political reasons.
  Openly assassinating another country’s head of state is widely seen as an act of war and illegal under international norms, so when it happens it is almost always disguised as a coup, an “accident,” or a domestic act.

Condensed table of clearer state-linked cases​

Sponsoring country	Target country	Leader killed	Year	Nature of involvement
Japan	China	Zhang Zuolin (head of state warlord)	1928	Kwantung Army bombed his train.[en.wikipedia]
United States	Dominican Republic	Rafael Trujillo (de facto head of state)	1961	CIA supported and armed local plotters.wikipedia+1
United States	South Vietnam	Ngo Dinh Diem (president)	1963	Backed coup leaders who then killed him.wikipedia+1
United States	Chile	Gen. René Schneider (army commander protecting civilian rule)	1970	Supplied weapons/support to kidnap plotters who killed him.wikipedia+1
NATO states (led by U.S., France, UK)	Libya	Muammar Gaddafi (de facto head of state)	2011	Airstrikes on convoy enabled rebels who captured and killed him.wikipedia+1

It is not as rare as you would imply.

 

[debbiedowner]

There is an autoexcuse for anything Trump does.

Yes, sadly these guys cheer and make excuses but they really don't sit back and think that all of the major conflicts the U.S. actually gets involved in to this extent just doesn't last 4 or 5 weeks. More like years and several troops killed. But what the hell do they care? That's the problem, they don't.

 

[debbiedowner]

There is no single complete list, but there are well-documented cases where a state either directly killed, or orchestrated the killing of, another country’s head of state or government.wikipedia+1
Below are some of the clearest, widely accepted examples (focusing on cases where another state was involved, not lone gunmen or purely internal coups):

Pre–World War II examples​

• Japan → China (1928): Officers of Imperial Japan’s Kwantung Army blew up the train of Chinese warlord and head of state Zhang Zuolin near Shenyang on 4 June 1928, killing him, in an attempt to reshape Manchurian politics in Japan’s favor.[en.wikipedia]
• (Disputed foreign role) Yugoslavia’s King Alexander I (1934): Assassin was a Macedonian nationalist, with alleged support from elements in Italy and Hungary, though direct state responsibility is debated.[en.wikipedia]

Cold War era​

These are mostly covert, often denied, but strongly supported by later investigations and declassified material.

• United States → Dominican Republic (1961)
  • Target: Rafael Trujillo, long‑time dictator and de facto head of state.
  • Event: Trujillo was ambushed and killed by Dominican conspirators; a U.S. Senate Church Committee later found the CIA had supplied weapons and encouragement to plotters looking to remove him.intelligence.senate+1
• United States → South Vietnam (1963)
  • Target: Ngo Dinh Diem, President of South Vietnam.
  • Event: Diem was overthrown and shot after a military coup; the Church Committee concluded the U.S. had encouraged and supported the coup, knowing Diem was likely to be killed.wikipedia+1
• United States → Chile (1970–1973, partial cases)
  • Target: Gen. René Schneider, Chilean army commander-in-chief (1970).
    • Schneider was killed after a kidnapping attempt by Chilean officers; the Church Committee reported the CIA had provided weapons and support to groups opposed to his “constitutionalism,” though the U.S. officially denied intending his death.intelligence.senate+1
  • Target: President Salvador Allende (1973).
    • Allende died during the coup led by Gen. Pinochet; official finding in Chile is suicide, but U.S. covert support for the coup itself is extensively documented.cnn+1
• Alleged U.S. plots → Cuba (1960s, failed)
  • Target: Fidel Castro.
  • Multiple CIA plots (poison, explosives, Mafia contacts) were documented by the Church Committee and later histories, but none succeeded; Castro died in 2016.ctvnews+1
• Pakistan (with foreign backing alleged) → Bangladesh (1975, contested)
  • Target: Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, founding president of Bangladesh.
  • Event: Killed in a coup by Bangladeshi army officers; some historians note rumors of CIA sympathy or encouragement, but hard proof of direct U.S. operational control is lacking.[historyextra]

Post–Cold War and recent examples​

Here the line between “official state action” and “intelligence‑backed covert hit” is sometimes clearer, especially where leaders were openly targeted in war or counter‑terror campaigns.

• United States + NATO allies → Libya (2011, attempted)
  • Target: Muammar Gaddafi, de facto Libyan head of state.
  • NATO’s air campaign supported rebels; Gaddafi was ultimately killed by rebel fighters after his convoy was bombed from the air. Publicly, NATO denied a personal assassination policy and framed strikes as military targets, but in practice allied air power directly enabled his capture and killing.statista+1
• Israel (with U.S. support in some operations) → Iran (senior officials, but not head of state)
  • Multiple high-profile killings (e.g., nuclear scientist Mohsen Fakhrizadeh in 2020) widely attributed to Israeli intelligence; Iran’s actual heads of state/supreme leaders have not been successfully assassinated.2017-2021.state+1
• Iran → Dissidents and ex‑officials abroad (not sitting heads of state)
  • Iran’s intelligence services have been linked to assassinations or plots against exiled opposition figures and defectors in Europe, the Middle East, and North America, but these people were not serving leaders of foreign states.opb+1

Important caveats​

• Most assassinated leaders are killed domestically.
  The majority of heads of state/government on global assassination lists are killed by their own military, security services, rebels, or lone attackers (examples: Rwanda’s Juvénal Habyarimana, Nepal’s King Birendra, Haiti’s Jovenel Moïse), not another sovereign state.statista+1
• State role is often covert or disputed.
  In many cases we have strong circumstantial evidence or later testimony (e.g., Church Committee for U.S. plots, or court findings on Iranian or Taiwanese operations abroad), but the sponsoring government may never formally admit ordering the killing.2017-2021.state+2
• Legal and political reasons.
  Openly assassinating another country’s head of state is widely seen as an act of war and illegal under international norms, so when it happens it is almost always disguised as a coup, an “accident,” or a domestic act.

Condensed table of clearer state-linked cases​

Sponsoring country	Target country	Leader killed	Year	Nature of involvement
Japan	China	Zhang Zuolin (head of state warlord)	1928	Kwantung Army bombed his train.[en.wikipedia]
United States	Dominican Republic	Rafael Trujillo (de facto head of state)	1961	CIA supported and armed local plotters.wikipedia+1
United States	South Vietnam	Ngo Dinh Diem (president)	1963	Backed coup leaders who then killed him.wikipedia+1
United States	Chile	Gen. René Schneider (army commander protecting civilian rule)	1970	Supplied weapons/support to kidnap plotters who killed him.wikipedia+1
NATO states (led by U.S., France, UK)	Libya	Muammar Gaddafi (de facto head of state)	2011	Airstrikes on convoy enabled rebels who captured and killed him.wikipedia+1

It is not as rare as you would imply.

I guess I should have specified U.S. President. I can't find any. I don't care about your post you can barely read on the U.S. helping another country to take one out. That was not my question.