Sister sums up the hypocrisy of many in the pro life movement

[Penelope]

In one simple quote, Sister Joan Chittister, O.S.B. sums up the hypocrisy of many in the 'pro-life' movement:

"I do not believe that just because you're opposed to abortion, that that makes you pro-life. In fact, I think in many cases, your morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a child fed, not a child educated, not a child housed. And why would I think that you don't? Because you don't want any tax money to go there. That's not pro-life. That's pro-birth. We need a much broader conversation on what the morality of pro-life is."

This quote applies well to many Republican lawmakers who continue to introduce/pass restrictive misogynist laws against woman's reproductive rights. At the same time, the GOP works to shut down women's health clinics, with a special vengeance towards Planned Parenthood (#StandWithPP). You don't hear of these Right Wing anti-choice

Catholic Nun Explains Pro-Life In A Way That Will Stun Many (Especially Republican Lawmakers)

Well said and so true.

If any single woman could go out and get a job that could afford to raise a child properly by herself I'd be much much much more open to the pro life movement.

I would say the woman is selfish but with how much it takes to raise a child I see why young girls choose to get abortions.

Many pro life people can afford an unexpected grandbaby and deep down they want it. What about the women who don't want it?

Again, if these women could have the baby and lead a comfortable life, or if I thought these women would raise good citizens I'd be more pro life.

Look at Detroit schools. All the white pro lifers don't want their tax dollars going to Detroit schools but they want young poor inner city women having children who will be forced to attend these shithole.

And they are asking poor uneducated women to be smart and safe. Lol.

That is the stupidest rationalization there is. First of all, conservatives are compassionate, we just don't agree with you stupid socialists on how to solve the problem. Clearly your way is not working. Secondly, it is you who does not want to be burdened by poor people having babies. So take that holier than thou attitude and shove it firmly up your ass, hypocrite.

I need to be frank, I find few conservatives that are giving , though most are hard working, they mainly have not been through much of a crisis in life where they need help and if they do they have the money or means to get themselves out from years of not being giving. (Don't get me wrong a person if they have the means should save and have disability ins and health insurance)

The conservatives want social programs cut so they can save money in tax cuts. Believe me I am surrounded by them, at lunch they talk about the cost of everything and their budget, not about what is happening in the world. A few I quit meeting for lunch because I can't stand it, they have the attitude its not my problem they don't work. Short on empathy.

 

[ding]

In one simple quote, Sister Joan Chittister, O.S.B. sums up the hypocrisy of many in the 'pro-life' movement:

"I do not believe that just because you're opposed to abortion, that that makes you pro-life. In fact, I think in many cases, your morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a child fed, not a child educated, not a child housed. And why would I think that you don't? Because you don't want any tax money to go there. That's not pro-life. That's pro-birth. We need a much broader conversation on what the morality of pro-life is."

This quote applies well to many Republican lawmakers who continue to introduce/pass restrictive misogynist laws against woman's reproductive rights. At the same time, the GOP works to shut down women's health clinics, with a special vengeance towards Planned Parenthood (#StandWithPP). You don't hear of these Right Wing anti-choice

Catholic Nun Explains Pro-Life In A Way That Will Stun Many (Especially Republican Lawmakers)

Well said and so true.

If any single woman could go out and get a job that could afford to raise a child properly by herself I'd be much much much more open to the pro life movement.

I would say the woman is selfish but with how much it takes to raise a child I see why young girls choose to get abortions.

Many pro life people can afford an unexpected grandbaby and deep down they want it. What about the women who don't want it?

Again, if these women could have the baby and lead a comfortable life, or if I thought these women would raise good citizens I'd be more pro life.

Look at Detroit schools. All the white pro lifers don't want their tax dollars going to Detroit schools but they want young poor inner city women having children who will be forced to attend these shithole.

And they are asking poor uneducated women to be smart and safe. Lol.

That is the stupidest rationalization there is. First of all, conservatives are compassionate, we just don't agree with you stupid socialists on how to solve the problem. Clearly your way is not working. Secondly, it is you who does not want to be burdened by poor people having babies. So take that holier than thou attitude and shove it firmly up your ass, hypocrite.

I need to be frank, I find few conservatives that are giving , though most are hard working, they mainly have not been through much of a crisis in life where they need help and if they do they have the money or means to get themselves out from years of not being giving. (Don't get me wrong a person if they have the means should save and have disability ins and health insurance)

The conservatives want social programs cut so they can save money in tax cuts. Believe me I am surrounded by them, at lunch they talk about the cost of everything and their budget, not about what is happening in the world. A few I quit meeting for lunch because I can't stand it, they have the attitude its not my problem they don't work. Short on empathy.

Conservatives want the problem solved. You are equating that to conservatives want social programs cut. Throwing money over a fence does not work.

 

[PK1]

The conservatives want social programs cut so they can save money in tax cuts. Believe me I am surrounded by them, at lunch they talk about the cost of everything and their budget, not about what is happening in the world. A few I quit meeting for lunch because I can't stand it, they have the attitude its not my problem they don't work. Short on empathy.

I have similar experiences, including my own conservative sibling. However, i have come across a few exceptions, but not enough in my book of fairness.

 

[sealybobo]

In one simple quote, Sister Joan Chittister, O.S.B. sums up the hypocrisy of many in the 'pro-life' movement:

"I do not believe that just because you're opposed to abortion, that that makes you pro-life. In fact, I think in many cases, your morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a child fed, not a child educated, not a child housed. And why would I think that you don't? Because you don't want any tax money to go there. That's not pro-life. That's pro-birth. We need a much broader conversation on what the morality of pro-life is."

This quote applies well to many Republican lawmakers who continue to introduce/pass restrictive misogynist laws against woman's reproductive rights. At the same time, the GOP works to shut down women's health clinics, with a special vengeance towards Planned Parenthood (#StandWithPP). You don't hear of these Right Wing anti-choice

Catholic Nun Explains Pro-Life In A Way That Will Stun Many (Especially Republican Lawmakers)

Well said and so true.

If any single woman could go out and get a job that could afford to raise a child properly by herself I'd be much much much more open to the pro life movement.

I would say the woman is selfish but with how much it takes to raise a child I see why young girls choose to get abortions.

Many pro life people can afford an unexpected grandbaby and deep down they want it. What about the women who don't want it?

Again, if these women could have the baby and lead a comfortable life, or if I thought these women would raise good citizens I'd be more pro life.

Look at Detroit schools. All the white pro lifers don't want their tax dollars going to Detroit schools but they want young poor inner city women having children who will be forced to attend these shithole.

And they are asking poor uneducated women to be smart and safe. Lol.

That is the stupidest rationalization there is. First of all, conservatives are compassionate, we just don't agree with you stupid socialists on how to solve the problem. Clearly your way is not working. Secondly, it is you who does not want to be burdened by poor people having babies. So take that holier than thou attitude and shove it firmly up your ass, hypocrite.

Your side doesn't want to be burdened either. In fact it's your side that pays them a poverty wage.

Tell you what. Pay everyone at least a livable wage then ban abortion

 

[MarathonMike]

Liberals know that it is inherently wrong to end the life of a fetus. That is why they rationalize abortion by referring to an unborn child with heart beating as a parasite. Or worse yet, they make up absurd "rules" about technically being able to abort right up to the moment before the child takes a breath.
The Sister is directing blame at the GOP for not providing enough free services for needy children because she can't defend abortion.

 

[ding]

In one simple quote, Sister Joan Chittister, O.S.B. sums up the hypocrisy of many in the 'pro-life' movement:

"I do not believe that just because you're opposed to abortion, that that makes you pro-life. In fact, I think in many cases, your morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a child fed, not a child educated, not a child housed. And why would I think that you don't? Because you don't want any tax money to go there. That's not pro-life. That's pro-birth. We need a much broader conversation on what the morality of pro-life is."

This quote applies well to many Republican lawmakers who continue to introduce/pass restrictive misogynist laws against woman's reproductive rights. At the same time, the GOP works to shut down women's health clinics, with a special vengeance towards Planned Parenthood (#StandWithPP). You don't hear of these Right Wing anti-choice

Catholic Nun Explains Pro-Life In A Way That Will Stun Many (Especially Republican Lawmakers)

Well said and so true.

If any single woman could go out and get a job that could afford to raise a child properly by herself I'd be much much much more open to the pro life movement.

I would say the woman is selfish but with how much it takes to raise a child I see why young girls choose to get abortions.

Many pro life people can afford an unexpected grandbaby and deep down they want it. What about the women who don't want it?

Again, if these women could have the baby and lead a comfortable life, or if I thought these women would raise good citizens I'd be more pro life.

Look at Detroit schools. All the white pro lifers don't want their tax dollars going to Detroit schools but they want young poor inner city women having children who will be forced to attend these shithole.

And they are asking poor uneducated women to be smart and safe. Lol.

That is the stupidest rationalization there is. First of all, conservatives are compassionate, we just don't agree with you stupid socialists on how to solve the problem. Clearly your way is not working. Secondly, it is you who does not want to be burdened by poor people having babies. So take that holier than thou attitude and shove it firmly up your ass, hypocrite.

Your side doesn't want to be burdened either. In fact it's your side that pays them a poverty wage.

Tell you what. Pay everyone at least a livable wage then ban abortion

You do realize that there was a period of time where Democrats had a super majority, right? Did you see anything different happen? So your your side argument is full of shit. You are constructing logical fallacy straw men to justify not having to address the failed policies of socialism. You think your argument is about politics when in reality it is really about economic systems. What exactly do you want your government to do for you? Control prices, wages and profits? Good Lord, you do realize that is communism, right?

The reality is that it is you who does not want to be burdened with the cost of the poor. Not me.

 

[Penelope]

Liberals know that it is inherently wrong to end the life of a fetus. That is why they rationalize abortion by referring to an unborn child with heart beating as a parasite. Or worse yet, they make up absurd "rules" about technically being able to abort right up to the moment before the child takes a breath.
The Sister is directing blame at the GOP for not providing enough free services for needy children because she can't defend abortion.

Liberals know that it is inherently wrong to end the life of a fetus. That is why they rationalize abortion by referring to an unborn child with heart beating as a parasite. Or worse yet, they make up absurd "rules" about technically being able to abort right up to the moment before the child takes a breath.
The Sister is directing blame at the GOP for not providing enough free services for needy children because she can't defend abortion.

Is this what you mean by conservative, Fox news, we are the pro life holy ones, Is that man holding her butt?

 

[ding]

Liberals know that it is inherently wrong to end the life of a fetus. That is why they rationalize abortion by referring to an unborn child with heart beating as a parasite. Or worse yet, they make up absurd "rules" about technically being able to abort right up to the moment before the child takes a breath.
The Sister is directing blame at the GOP for not providing enough free services for needy children because she can't defend abortion.

Liberals know that it is inherently wrong to end the life of a fetus. That is why they rationalize abortion by referring to an unborn child with heart beating as a parasite. Or worse yet, they make up absurd "rules" about technically being able to abort right up to the moment before the child takes a breath.
The Sister is directing blame at the GOP for not providing enough free services for needy children because she can't defend abortion.

Is this what you mean by conservative, Fox news, we are the pro life holy ones, Is that man holding her butt?
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You are the worst of the worst. You deny their humaneness. It would be better for you to admit that you know it is wrong but still support it. Then you could be honest about yourself.

 

[ding]

In one simple quote, Sister Joan Chittister, O.S.B. sums up the hypocrisy of many in the 'pro-life' movement:

"I do not believe that just because you're opposed to abortion, that that makes you pro-life. In fact, I think in many cases, your morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a child fed, not a child educated, not a child housed. And why would I think that you don't? Because you don't want any tax money to go there. That's not pro-life. That's pro-birth. We need a much broader conversation on what the morality of pro-life is."

This quote applies well to many Republican lawmakers who continue to introduce/pass restrictive misogynist laws against woman's reproductive rights. At the same time, the GOP works to shut down women's health clinics, with a special vengeance towards Planned Parenthood (#StandWithPP). You don't hear of these Right Wing anti-choice

Catholic Nun Explains Pro-Life In A Way That Will Stun Many (Especially Republican Lawmakers)

Well said and so true.

If any single woman could go out and get a job that could afford to raise a child properly by herself I'd be much much much more open to the pro life movement.

I would say the woman is selfish but with how much it takes to raise a child I see why young girls choose to get abortions.

Many pro life people can afford an unexpected grandbaby and deep down they want it. What about the women who don't want it?

Again, if these women could have the baby and lead a comfortable life, or if I thought these women would raise good citizens I'd be more pro life.

Look at Detroit schools. All the white pro lifers don't want their tax dollars going to Detroit schools but they want young poor inner city women having children who will be forced to attend these shithole.

And they are asking poor uneducated women to be smart and safe. Lol.

That is the stupidest rationalization there is. First of all, conservatives are compassionate, we just don't agree with you stupid socialists on how to solve the problem. Clearly your way is not working. Secondly, it is you who does not want to be burdened by poor people having babies. So take that holier than thou attitude and shove it firmly up your ass, hypocrite.

Your side doesn't want to be burdened either. In fact it's your side that pays them a poverty wage.

Tell you what. Pay everyone at least a livable wage then ban abortion

You should tell Penelope what you told me. That abortion is wrong but that you still support a woman choosing for her self to do what you know is wrong.

 

[MarathonMike]

Liberals know that it is inherently wrong to end the life of a fetus. That is why they rationalize abortion by referring to an unborn child with heart beating as a parasite. Or worse yet, they make up absurd "rules" about technically being able to abort right up to the moment before the child takes a breath.
The Sister is directing blame at the GOP for not providing enough free services for needy children because she can't defend abortion.

Liberals know that it is inherently wrong to end the life of a fetus. That is why they rationalize abortion by referring to an unborn child with heart beating as a parasite. Or worse yet, they make up absurd "rules" about technically being able to abort right up to the moment before the child takes a breath.
The Sister is directing blame at the GOP for not providing enough free services for needy children because she can't defend abortion.

Is this what you mean by conservative, Fox news, we are the pro life holy ones, Is that man holding her butt?
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When you can't defend your position, it's "hey look over there!"

 

[sealybobo]

In one simple quote, Sister Joan Chittister, O.S.B. sums up the hypocrisy of many in the 'pro-life' movement:

"I do not believe that just because you're opposed to abortion, that that makes you pro-life. In fact, I think in many cases, your morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a child fed, not a child educated, not a child housed. And why would I think that you don't? Because you don't want any tax money to go there. That's not pro-life. That's pro-birth. We need a much broader conversation on what the morality of pro-life is."

This quote applies well to many Republican lawmakers who continue to introduce/pass restrictive misogynist laws against woman's reproductive rights. At the same time, the GOP works to shut down women's health clinics, with a special vengeance towards Planned Parenthood (#StandWithPP). You don't hear of these Right Wing anti-choice

Catholic Nun Explains Pro-Life In A Way That Will Stun Many (Especially Republican Lawmakers)

Well said and so true.

If any single woman could go out and get a job that could afford to raise a child properly by herself I'd be much much much more open to the pro life movement.

I would say the woman is selfish but with how much it takes to raise a child I see why young girls choose to get abortions.

Many pro life people can afford an unexpected grandbaby and deep down they want it. What about the women who don't want it?

Again, if these women could have the baby and lead a comfortable life, or if I thought these women would raise good citizens I'd be more pro life.

Look at Detroit schools. All the white pro lifers don't want their tax dollars going to Detroit schools but they want young poor inner city women having children who will be forced to attend these shithole.

And they are asking poor uneducated women to be smart and safe. Lol.

That is the stupidest rationalization there is. First of all, conservatives are compassionate, we just don't agree with you stupid socialists on how to solve the problem. Clearly your way is not working. Secondly, it is you who does not want to be burdened by poor people having babies. So take that holier than thou attitude and shove it firmly up your ass, hypocrite.

Your side doesn't want to be burdened either. In fact it's your side that pays them a poverty wage.

Tell you what. Pay everyone at least a livable wage then ban abortion

You do realize that there was a period of time where Democrats had a super majority, right? Did you see anything different happen? So your your side argument is full of shit. You are constructing logical fallacy straw men to justify not having to address the failed policies of socialism. You think your argument is about politics when in reality it is really about economic systems. What exactly do you want your government to do for you? Control prices, wages and profits? Good Lord, you do realize that is communism, right?

The reality is that it is you who does not want to be burdened with the cost of the poor. Not me.

Are all union members communists? No they aren't. So you saying that makes you sound ignorant and i know you aren't dumb. Unions exist in a capitalist society right? I'm for strong labor laws and well regulated capitalism.

The government for the people is what I'm for and it's what trumps saying he's for so is trump a commie? Then stfu with that bs

 

[ding]

Well said and so true.

If any single woman could go out and get a job that could afford to raise a child properly by herself I'd be much much much more open to the pro life movement.

I would say the woman is selfish but with how much it takes to raise a child I see why young girls choose to get abortions.

Many pro life people can afford an unexpected grandbaby and deep down they want it. What about the women who don't want it?

Again, if these women could have the baby and lead a comfortable life, or if I thought these women would raise good citizens I'd be more pro life.

Look at Detroit schools. All the white pro lifers don't want their tax dollars going to Detroit schools but they want young poor inner city women having children who will be forced to attend these shithole.

And they are asking poor uneducated women to be smart and safe. Lol.

That is the stupidest rationalization there is. First of all, conservatives are compassionate, we just don't agree with you stupid socialists on how to solve the problem. Clearly your way is not working. Secondly, it is you who does not want to be burdened by poor people having babies. So take that holier than thou attitude and shove it firmly up your ass, hypocrite.

Your side doesn't want to be burdened either. In fact it's your side that pays them a poverty wage.

Tell you what. Pay everyone at least a livable wage then ban abortion

You do realize that there was a period of time where Democrats had a super majority, right? Did you see anything different happen? So your your side argument is full of shit. You are constructing logical fallacy straw men to justify not having to address the failed policies of socialism. You think your argument is about politics when in reality it is really about economic systems. What exactly do you want your government to do for you? Control prices, wages and profits? Good Lord, you do realize that is communism, right?

The reality is that it is you who does not want to be burdened with the cost of the poor. Not me.

Are all union members communists? No they aren't. So you saying that makes you sound ignorant and i know you aren't dumb. Unions exist in a capitalist society right? I'm for strong labor laws and well regulated capitalism.

The government for the people is what I'm for and it's what trumps saying he's for so is trump a commie? Then stfu with that bs

Where did I say that all union members were communists. That was some leap in logic there.

You are just going to have to get over the fact that the government does not control free enterprise, so you can forget about the government making sure you get a liveable wage. That is up to you. I don't know why you think "my side" are the one's who pay poverty wages. That is an illogical statement. Seriously? You believe Democrats pay their employees handsomely and Republicans pay them in scraps? Is that your mental model? You ever hear of the market? Trust me Democrats and Republicans pay the same. The fact that you believe otherwise is amazing to me.

 

[Chuz Life]

You are the worst of the worst. You deny their humaneness. It would be better for you to admit that you know it is wrong but still support it. Then you could be honest about yourself.

In all the years that I have been fighting abortion, I have only debated a handful that would willingly admit that an abortion kills a child. They were intellectually honest about the biological facts. Even though we still disagreed on whether not not abortions should be criminalized, I still had a great deal more respect for those guys than I did any of their (denying) counterparts.

It's a shame so much time and energy is wasted trying to educate and overcome the deniers.

 

[sealybobo]

In one simple quote, Sister Joan Chittister, O.S.B. sums up the hypocrisy of many in the 'pro-life' movement:

"I do not believe that just because you're opposed to abortion, that that makes you pro-life. In fact, I think in many cases, your morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a child fed, not a child educated, not a child housed. And why would I think that you don't? Because you don't want any tax money to go there. That's not pro-life. That's pro-birth. We need a much broader conversation on what the morality of pro-life is."

This quote applies well to many Republican lawmakers who continue to introduce/pass restrictive misogynist laws against woman's reproductive rights. At the same time, the GOP works to shut down women's health clinics, with a special vengeance towards Planned Parenthood (#StandWithPP). You don't hear of these Right Wing anti-choice

Catholic Nun Explains Pro-Life In A Way That Will Stun Many (Especially Republican Lawmakers)

Well said and so true.

If any single woman could go out and get a job that could afford to raise a child properly by herself I'd be much much much more open to the pro life movement.

I would say the woman is selfish but with how much it takes to raise a child I see why young girls choose to get abortions.

Many pro life people can afford an unexpected grandbaby and deep down they want it. What about the women who don't want it?

Again, if these women could have the baby and lead a comfortable life, or if I thought these women would raise good citizens I'd be more pro life.

Look at Detroit schools. All the white pro lifers don't want their tax dollars going to Detroit schools but they want young poor inner city women having children who will be forced to attend these shithole.

And they are asking poor uneducated women to be smart and safe. Lol.

That is the stupidest rationalization there is. First of all, conservatives are compassionate, we just don't agree with you stupid socialists on how to solve the problem. Clearly your way is not working. Secondly, it is you who does not want to be burdened by poor people having babies. So take that holier than thou attitude and shove it firmly up your ass, hypocrite.

Your side doesn't want to be burdened either. In fact it's your side that pays them a poverty wage.

Tell you what. Pay everyone at least a livable wage then ban abortion

You should tell Penelope what you told me. That abortion is wrong but that you still support a woman choosing for her self to do what you know is wrong.

Let's say a woman gets pregnant and doesn't want to have it. You gonna make her have it?

 

[ding]

Well said and so true.

If any single woman could go out and get a job that could afford to raise a child properly by herself I'd be much much much more open to the pro life movement.

I would say the woman is selfish but with how much it takes to raise a child I see why young girls choose to get abortions.

Many pro life people can afford an unexpected grandbaby and deep down they want it. What about the women who don't want it?

Again, if these women could have the baby and lead a comfortable life, or if I thought these women would raise good citizens I'd be more pro life.

Look at Detroit schools. All the white pro lifers don't want their tax dollars going to Detroit schools but they want young poor inner city women having children who will be forced to attend these shithole.

And they are asking poor uneducated women to be smart and safe. Lol.

That is the stupidest rationalization there is. First of all, conservatives are compassionate, we just don't agree with you stupid socialists on how to solve the problem. Clearly your way is not working. Secondly, it is you who does not want to be burdened by poor people having babies. So take that holier than thou attitude and shove it firmly up your ass, hypocrite.

Your side doesn't want to be burdened either. In fact it's your side that pays them a poverty wage.

Tell you what. Pay everyone at least a livable wage then ban abortion

You should tell Penelope what you told me. That abortion is wrong but that you still support a woman choosing for her self to do what you know is wrong.

Let's say a woman gets pregnant and doesn't want to have it. You gonna make her have it?

How would I do that?

 

[sealybobo]

If any single woman could go out and get a job that could afford to raise a child properly by herself I'd be much much much more open to the pro life movement.

I would say the woman is selfish but with how much it takes to raise a child I see why young girls choose to get abortions.

Many pro life people can afford an unexpected grandbaby and deep down they want it. What about the women who don't want it?

Again, if these women could have the baby and lead a comfortable life, or if I thought these women would raise good citizens I'd be more pro life.

Look at Detroit schools. All the white pro lifers don't want their tax dollars going to Detroit schools but they want young poor inner city women having children who will be forced to attend these shithole.

And they are asking poor uneducated women to be smart and safe. Lol.

That is the stupidest rationalization there is. First of all, conservatives are compassionate, we just don't agree with you stupid socialists on how to solve the problem. Clearly your way is not working. Secondly, it is you who does not want to be burdened by poor people having babies. So take that holier than thou attitude and shove it firmly up your ass, hypocrite.

Your side doesn't want to be burdened either. In fact it's your side that pays them a poverty wage.

Tell you what. Pay everyone at least a livable wage then ban abortion

You do realize that there was a period of time where Democrats had a super majority, right? Did you see anything different happen? So your your side argument is full of shit. You are constructing logical fallacy straw men to justify not having to address the failed policies of socialism. You think your argument is about politics when in reality it is really about economic systems. What exactly do you want your government to do for you? Control prices, wages and profits? Good Lord, you do realize that is communism, right?

The reality is that it is you who does not want to be burdened with the cost of the poor. Not me.

Are all union members communists? No they aren't. So you saying that makes you sound ignorant and i know you aren't dumb. Unions exist in a capitalist society right? I'm for strong labor laws and well regulated capitalism.

The government for the people is what I'm for and it's what trumps saying he's for so is trump a commie? Then stfu with that bs

Where did I say that all union members were communists. That was some leap in logic there.

You are just going to have to get over the fact that the government does not control free enterprise, so you can forget about the government making sure you get a liveable wage. That is up to you. I don't know why you think "my side" are the one's who pay poverty wages. That is an illogical statement. Seriously? You believe Democrats pay their employees handsomely and Republicans pay them in scraps? Is that your mental model? You ever hear of the market? Trust me Democrats and Republicans pay the same. The fact that you believe otherwise is amazing to me.

You must not understand the importance of government and unions

 

[sealybobo]

If any single woman could go out and get a job that could afford to raise a child properly by herself I'd be much much much more open to the pro life movement.

I would say the woman is selfish but with how much it takes to raise a child I see why young girls choose to get abortions.

Many pro life people can afford an unexpected grandbaby and deep down they want it. What about the women who don't want it?

Again, if these women could have the baby and lead a comfortable life, or if I thought these women would raise good citizens I'd be more pro life.

Look at Detroit schools. All the white pro lifers don't want their tax dollars going to Detroit schools but they want young poor inner city women having children who will be forced to attend these shithole.

And they are asking poor uneducated women to be smart and safe. Lol.

That is the stupidest rationalization there is. First of all, conservatives are compassionate, we just don't agree with you stupid socialists on how to solve the problem. Clearly your way is not working. Secondly, it is you who does not want to be burdened by poor people having babies. So take that holier than thou attitude and shove it firmly up your ass, hypocrite.

Your side doesn't want to be burdened either. In fact it's your side that pays them a poverty wage.

Tell you what. Pay everyone at least a livable wage then ban abortion

You should tell Penelope what you told me. That abortion is wrong but that you still support a woman choosing for her self to do what you know is wrong.

Let's say a woman gets pregnant and doesn't want to have it. You gonna make her have it?

How would I do that?

By banning abortion

 

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That is the stupidest rationalization there is. First of all, conservatives are compassionate, we just don't agree with you stupid socialists on how to solve the problem. Clearly your way is not working. Secondly, it is you who does not want to be burdened by poor people having babies. So take that holier than thou attitude and shove it firmly up your ass, hypocrite.

Your side doesn't want to be burdened either. In fact it's your side that pays them a poverty wage.

Tell you what. Pay everyone at least a livable wage then ban abortion

You do realize that there was a period of time where Democrats had a super majority, right? Did you see anything different happen? So your your side argument is full of shit. You are constructing logical fallacy straw men to justify not having to address the failed policies of socialism. You think your argument is about politics when in reality it is really about economic systems. What exactly do you want your government to do for you? Control prices, wages and profits? Good Lord, you do realize that is communism, right?

The reality is that it is you who does not want to be burdened with the cost of the poor. Not me.

Are all union members communists? No they aren't. So you saying that makes you sound ignorant and i know you aren't dumb. Unions exist in a capitalist society right? I'm for strong labor laws and well regulated capitalism.

The government for the people is what I'm for and it's what trumps saying he's for so is trump a commie? Then stfu with that bs

Where did I say that all union members were communists. That was some leap in logic there.

You are just going to have to get over the fact that the government does not control free enterprise, so you can forget about the government making sure you get a liveable wage. That is up to you. I don't know why you think "my side" are the one's who pay poverty wages. That is an illogical statement. Seriously? You believe Democrats pay their employees handsomely and Republicans pay them in scraps? Is that your mental model? You ever hear of the market? Trust me Democrats and Republicans pay the same. The fact that you believe otherwise is amazing to me.

You must not understand the importance of government and unions

No, I don't understand how it relates to what we were talking about.

 

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That is the stupidest rationalization there is. First of all, conservatives are compassionate, we just don't agree with you stupid socialists on how to solve the problem. Clearly your way is not working. Secondly, it is you who does not want to be burdened by poor people having babies. So take that holier than thou attitude and shove it firmly up your ass, hypocrite.

Your side doesn't want to be burdened either. In fact it's your side that pays them a poverty wage.

Tell you what. Pay everyone at least a livable wage then ban abortion

You should tell Penelope what you told me. That abortion is wrong but that you still support a woman choosing for her self to do what you know is wrong.

Let's say a woman gets pregnant and doesn't want to have it. You gonna make her have it?

How would I do that?

By banning abortion

I'm not that powerful.

 

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You are the worst of the worst. You deny their humaneness. It would be better for you to admit that you know it is wrong but still support it. Then you could be honest about yourself.

In all the years that I have been fighting abortion, I have only debated a handful that would willingly admit that an abortion kills a child. They were intellectually honest about the biological facts. Even though we still disagreed on whether not not abortions should be criminalized, I still had a great deal more respect for those guys than I did any of their (denying) counterparts.

It's a shame so much time and energy is wasted trying to educate and overcome the deniers.

Is a yolk a chicken? At what point are you eating an egg and what point is it chicken?

Is an egg life the second the chicken lays it? How come you don't say you had scrambled chickens for breakfast?