Debate Now Should we go back to Medieval ways of dealing with crime?

[Mr. Friscus]

Ahh, so you blame our crime problem on a "3rd world" morality? I disagree. For one thing, the statistics simply don't support your assertion--whatever a "3rd world" morality is unless you think drug use is strictly a 3rd world problem. Its a rather silly phrase you're using. I presume you're talking about Mexico (brown people of course!!!!). Well, it you are, lets talk about that. One of the issues is that we deport illegal/undocumented persons instead of making them serve their sentence and they often are free once they are deported. Agree?

Not sure who you are talking about there, The previous administration deported plenty of people:

US deportations under Biden surpass Trump's 2019 record

President Biden had pledged to pause deportations, but ended up expanding it following a surge in border crossings.

www.bbc.com

The OP reflects 3rd world morals....agreed?

Do you even know what routinely happens in 3rd world countries to the common folk? Do you think there's a morality of state or person that gets in the way of horrible evils? Do you read their government laws?

Generally, there isn't. People are murdered and nothing happens. Women and children are taken, raped, etc.. and nothing happens.

You try to simply tie it to "drug use"... that's really weird. The reason they are "third world" is because they have horrible morality that they allow, or are unable to enforce.. and you have to look at why that is.

Meanwhile, you pathetically try the race card, that won't work. Humans are humans, and countries are countries. Stats are stats. Deaths are deaths. Child mortality rates are what they are.

 

[candycorn]

Do you even know what routinely happens in 3rd world countries to the common folk? Do you think there's a morality of state or person that gets in the way of horrible evils? Do you read their government laws?

Generally, there isn't. People are murdered and nothing happens. Women and children are taken, raped, etc.. and nothing happens.

Hell, That happens here too.

You try to simply tie it to "drug use"... that's really weird.

No. The subject of the OP is incarceration and punishment. A very high percentage of those incarcerated are there because of drug use.

The reason they are "third world" is because they have horrible morality that they allow, or are unable to enforce.. and you have to look at why that is.

Well...lol....I guess Trump's pal Epstien had a 3rd world mentality then?

Meanwhile, you pathetically try the race card, that won't work. Humans are humans, and countries are countries. Stats are stats. Deaths are deaths. Child mortality rates are what they are.

You bizarrely brought up something called a "3rd world morality" as something that the US has that other industrialized nations don't then pivoted to illegal immigration in the same paragraph. Were you talking about illegal immigration from Canada?

The shoe fits. I'm just making you wear it.

 

[LibertyWeeps]

Cruel and unusual punishments?

To match the cruel and unusual crimes.

 

[Cassandro]

"3rd world morality" probably includes little or no respect for the rule of law. This becomes problematic when these people emigrate to law-abiding nations. The US has historically borne the brunt of this invasion, but Europe is now catching up.

 

[DennisPTate]

Should the United States of America reinstall some Medieval methods of discipling and dealing with criminals, instead of sending them to their rooms for 20+ years?

*Prisons are overflowing in this country.
*Tax payers should not be burdened with having to pay for criminals to be in cushy surroundings.
*Optimum crime control was best served when using public stockades, hangings, guillatines, whippings, stonings, and body part removals.
*Many people would be happy to see woodchippers used to slowly feed extreme criminals into a woodchipper, feet first.
*Criminals of today are not afraid of anything, simply because crime DOES pay......free housing, free food, free clothes, free medical, free everything.
*Those thinking about making criminal acts or going into a life of crime would be more apt to really THINK about it, if harsh and extreme punishments were doled out as soon as the crime was committed, which would severely curtail criminal acts of all kinds.


The cushy and tolerant treatment of criminals in this country has gotten WAY out of control. Criminals need to PAY for their crimes, not get rewarded for them.

I am of the belief that a spiritual awakening is coming to all of the world. In the book "Transformed By The Light" Dr. Melvin Morse referred to a study that had been done on volunteers who had attempted suicide in the recent past. One group of volunteers was simply given near death experience accounts to read. Zero people from that group attempted suicide again during the duration of the study.

If you get your children and grandchildren to read near death experience accounts you will have immunized them from committing suidide, [but another obvious question come up]? Would simply reading near death experience accounts, [or listening to them on youtube also assist your children and grandchildren to avoid somewhat suicidal behaviour such as drug addiction or alcoholism?

We now know of information that could transform the way that criminals can come to view this world. The study that Dr. Melvin Morse referred to could also work to transform the way that career criminals view their place in the universe.

Bureaucrats in Ottawa and Washington do not like this information though because the corruption that we all saw over this past decade, depends on Atheism being taught as something close to the State Religion of Higher Education.

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I remember a statistic from Psychology 240 that about ninety five percent of people will tend to volunteer to be involved in a scientific study. Violent criminals are bored and might just be willing to give this type of therapy a sincere try?

The Islamic nations offer evidence that treating certain types of crime with violence, does tend to decrease that type of crime, but I don't think that any modern nations wants to go see criminals treated in that way?

 

[candycorn]

Should the United States of America reinstall some Medieval methods of discipling and dealing with criminals, instead of sending them to their rooms for 20+ years?

*Prisons are overflowing in this country.
*Tax payers should not be burdened with having to pay for criminals to be in cushy surroundings.
*Optimum crime control was best served when using public stockades, hangings, guillatines, whippings, stonings, and body part removals.
*Many people would be happy to see woodchippers used to slowly feed extreme criminals into a woodchipper, feet first.
*Criminals of today are not afraid of anything, simply because crime DOES pay......free housing, free food, free clothes, free medical, free everything.
*Those thinking about making criminal acts or going into a life of crime would be more apt to really THINK about it, if harsh and extreme punishments were doled out as soon as the crime was committed, which would severely curtail criminal acts of all kinds.


The cushy and tolerant treatment of criminals in this country has gotten WAY out of control. Criminals need to PAY for their crimes, not get rewarded for them.

None of what you think is remotely true.

 

[LibertyWeeps]

what makes you think they get banned less than fools like you?

I got banned because I did something a Democrat did, but NOTHING happened to THEM, while I was BANNED for the same kind of post.
I actually did it to show how biased they are on this board. I knew I would get kicked off, but I did it just for the science of finding the truth about the bias on here.

 

[toobfreak]

Should the United States of America reinstall some Medieval methods of discipling and dealing with criminals, instead of sending them to their rooms for 20+ years?

Yes and no.

PROBLEM #1: Justice has become too complicated and expensive just enriching lawyers while giving them 10,000 ways of creatively getting a person off for most anything--- if you have enough money to pay them.

PROBLEM #2: Justice needs to be both efficient and effective. Serious crimes need to be dealt with seriously with serious punishments which actually discourage others.

PROBLEM #3: People in positions of authority need held to a higher standard for not abusing their office to commit crimes or to enrich themselves and for media to be free to investigate the news but must report it honestly and fairly.

It all begins at the top. Until that is settled, you cannot expect people in everyday life to fall into place.

POVERTY is a measure of a failure of our leaders to do their jobs; most crime is really a result on the loss of any quality of life others enjoy that poor people are denied through prejudice and lack of any opportunity.

If these idiots in Minnesota had any real lives and better things to do earning a good life with a steady career, they'd neither have the time nor interest to spend all days instead trying to figure out how to piss off cops while ramming their cars into them.

 

[justoffal]

Should the United States of America reinstall some Medieval methods of discipling and dealing with criminals, instead of sending them to their rooms for 20+ years?

*Prisons are overflowing in this country.
*Tax payers should not be burdened with having to pay for criminals to be in cushy surroundings.
*Optimum crime control was best served when using public stockades, hangings, guillatines, whippings, stonings, and body part removals.
*Many people would be happy to see woodchippers used to slowly feed extreme criminals into a woodchipper, feet first.
*Criminals of today are not afraid of anything, simply because crime DOES pay......free housing, free food, free clothes, free medical, free everything.
*Those thinking about making criminal acts or going into a life of crime would be more apt to really THINK about it, if harsh and extreme punishments were doled out as soon as the crime was committed, which would severely curtail criminal acts of all kinds.


The cushy and tolerant treatment of criminals in this country has gotten WAY out of control. Criminals need to PAY for their crimes, not get rewarded for them.

Perhaps not 100% but yes we need to move back in that direction. The idea that kind of and gentler will reform a criminal is a liberal mental illness. It would be great if it worked but it doesn't. To a criminal mind applying kindness and gentleness is like pouring barbecue sauce on a dry piece of meat.

It just gets easier to eat.

 

[LibertyWeeps]

Perhaps not 100% but yes we need to move back in that direction. The idea that kind of and gentler will reform a criminal is a liberal mental illness. It would be great if it worked but it doesn't. To a criminal mind applying kindness and gentleness is like pouring barbecue sauce on a dry piece of meat.

It just gets easier to eat.

Hey.........if it's covered in BBQ sauce, Imma eatin it!!!!