Should Statues and Other Memorials To Harvey Milk Also Be Removed?

[mdk]

That deserves a statue? Does Arnold get one for being the first Austrian?

He deserves one. After all, he did save Mars in that documentary.

 

[Aba Incieni]

There's a statue of him on all fours in the Castro District.

 

[Polishprince]

That isn't what the facts indicate however. San Francisco offers Homosexual Studies courses in their high schools, trying to bring more people aboard the gay train through proselytizing. Some cities even offer all-homo high schools.

This was unheard of 50 years ago, and the programs have been successful in their aims.

San Francisco isn`t trying to recruit people to be gay. They`re trying to educate them so they`ll be nothing like you.

That's exactly what I'm saying, SF doesn't want its people to be like me- proudly and openly Straight.

Sorry, but you don't what the hell you're talking about! I'm betting you're openly straight but closeted gay.

You do realize using an accusation of being a closeted gay is actually a homophobic tactic. Right?

Report to a PC detention center at once for reprogramming

You're wrong again. Haven't you seen many men who are so strongly against gays being eventually found out to actually be gay?

Except for the fact that I'm not against homosexuals at all. I just don't think that we need to glorify it in this country.

There have been a lot of proud, gay men like Trump's old lawyer Roy Cohn and Homosexual Law Man J Edgar Hoover, who I salute 100%

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Why are there Harvey Milk statues anyway? What of any worth did he accomplish? He seems little more than an aging hippie with odd sexual proclivities.

Milk is one of the great Gay Martyrs, along with Matt Shepard, who died as promoters for Homosexuality.

If it wasn't for pioneers like Mr. Milk, taking it up the keister would be no where near as popular in liberal cities as it is today.

When I was a kid, before the work of Milk and Shepard, there were relatively few gay beaus around seeking to convince young men to get sodomized.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

That isn't what the facts indicate however. San Francisco offers Homosexual Studies courses in their high schools, trying to bring more people aboard the gay train through proselytizing. Some cities even offer all-homo high schools.

This was unheard of 50 years ago, and the programs have been successful in their aims.

San Francisco isn`t trying to recruit people to be gay. They`re trying to educate them so they`ll be nothing like you.

That's exactly what I'm saying, SF doesn't want its people to be like me- proudly and openly Straight.

Sorry, but you don't what the hell you're talking about! I'm betting you're openly straight but closeted gay.

You do realize using an accusation of being a closeted gay is actually a homophobic tactic. Right?

Report to a PC detention center at once for reprogramming

You're wrong again. Haven't you seen many men who are so strongly against gays being eventually found out to actually be gay?

Yea, Christian conservatives

 

[Cecilie1200]

We hear constantly, like every other week, how a liberal group is trying to remove some statue of a historical icon who did or was accused of doing something shady besides his accomplishments. The latest manifestation, with many more to come I'm sure: Judicial Watch wants Pancho Villa statue removed from a Tucson park.

In the same spirit, should statues or other publicly displayed memorials of Harvey Milk be torn down or removed?

Harvey Milk transported the minor Jack Mckinley across State lines. He was simultaneously acting as father/guardian to the boy while sodomizing him. It started in New York when Jack was just 16 and incapable of consent: a felony. It continued to California where Milk continued sodomizing him as a minor until he turned 18. All in violation of the federal MANN Act.

Milk's biographer Randy Shilts in "The Mayor of Castro Street" also said that Milk had a penchant for "young waifs with substance abuse problems". Even if 18, an addled drug addict sodomized by Milk would still be incapable of consent. So Milk PREFERRED statutory rape, sodomizing young men and boys too addled or otherwise incapable of consent to sodomy with a man 20+ years their senior.

So liberals, in the interest of rape victims, tear down Harvey Milk stuff? Harvey Milk: The Gay Saint or Boy Lover?

I never thought there should be any statues to Harvey Milk in the first place. Being gay is not an accomplishment; being an ephibophile definitely isn't.

And for the record, I always thought that statue of Pancho Villa had no business being there, either. I still remember sitting at the bus stop across from it one evening while some noxious little Mexican pissant sidled up to me and started going on and on about what a hero Pancho Villa was because he raped white women. I finally got tired of it and said, "Well, he had to. It was the only way he could GET a white woman, after all", and walked away.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Milk is one of the great Gay Martyrs, along with Matt Shepard, who died as promoters for Homosexuality.

If it wasn't for pioneers like Mr. Milk, taking it up the keister would be no where near as popular in liberal cities as it is today.

When I was a kid, before the work of Milk and Shepard, there were relatively few gay beaus around seeking to convince young men to get sodomized.

That's because it could get them killed coming out of the closet, what with the Christian/redneck Sharia law back then..

That just isn't true. Sodomy was legalized in 1963 in Illinois, the only thing is that people really didn't want homosexuals to spread their ideology back in the day. Trying to recruit people into homosexuality wasn't tolerated that well, but if two acknowledged fruitcakes wanted to go behind closed doors and shove gerbils up their keisters, no one much cared. The problems that gays had was when they proselytize young people or undercover police for their activities which were considered perversion

Recruiting people into homosexuality? I hope I don`t read anything dumber than that today.

If it isn't recruitment, how do you explain the prevalence of these sexual practices in some communities like San Francisco and that homosexuality is almost unheard of in other communities. Are you contending that teen age boys in San Fran are consuming something in the water that gets them curious?

Or could it be that gay people from across the country move(d) to neighborhoods where they would feel welcomed and accepted? Like the Castro, Provincetown, or the Gayborhood?

Teenaged boys are moving to San Francisco to be around homosexuals? How are they convincing their parents to go along with that?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Why are there Harvey Milk statues anyway? What of any worth did he accomplish? He seems little more than an aging hippie with odd sexual proclivities.

He seems dead since 1978.

I am aware of that. I recall the incident. Still, you didn't answer the question.

Because he was one of the first homos to be elected to public office. That might not be a big deal to you, but it is for some people. Hell, I bet a good portion of Catholics know the name of the first Catholic to be nominated for President. At least, I hope. lol

That isn't what the facts indicate however. San Francisco offers Homosexual Studies courses in their high schools, trying to bring more people aboard the gay train through proselytizing. Some cities even offer all-homo high schools.

This was unheard of 50 years ago, and the programs have been successful in their aims.

San Francisco isn`t trying to recruit people to be gay. They`re trying to educate them so they`ll be nothing like you.

That's exactly what I'm saying, SF doesn't want its people to be like me- proudly and openly Straight.

Sorry, but you don't what the hell you're talking about! I'm betting you're openly straight but closeted gay.

You do realize using an accusation of being a closeted gay is actually a homophobic tactic. Right?

Report to a PC detention center at once for reprogramming

You're wrong again. Haven't you seen many men who are so strongly against gays being eventually found out to actually be gay?

You used it as an insult and slur, cat breath

This isn't my first rodeo

 

[Cecilie1200]

What about the statues of impeached rapist?

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To be fair, the statues of Clinton aren't there to memorialize his impeachment or the accusations of rape.

As far as I can tell, being a gay ephibophile actually IS the only thing for which Harvey Milk is famous.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

That's because it could get them killed coming out of the closet, what with the Christian/redneck Sharia law back then..

That just isn't true. Sodomy was legalized in 1963 in Illinois, the only thing is that people really didn't want homosexuals to spread their ideology back in the day. Trying to recruit people into homosexuality wasn't tolerated that well, but if two acknowledged fruitcakes wanted to go behind closed doors and shove gerbils up their keisters, no one much cared. The problems that gays had was when they proselytize young people or undercover police for their activities which were considered perversion

Recruiting people into homosexuality? I hope I don`t read anything dumber than that today.

If it isn't recruitment, how do you explain the prevalence of these sexual practices in some communities like San Francisco and that homosexuality is almost unheard of in other communities. Are you contending that teen age boys in San Fran are consuming something in the water that gets them curious?

Or could it be that gay people from across the country move(d) to neighborhoods where they would feel welcomed and accepted? Like the Castro, Provincetown, or the Gayborhood?

Teenaged boys are moving to San Francisco to be around homosexuals? How are they convincing their parents to go along with that?

They didn't they were runaways....and guess who preyed on them in San Fran?

 

[Cecilie1200]

Just going to leave this here:

“My observation of my father and mother’s actual belief is this: since everyone is naturally gay, it is the straight establishment that makes everyone hung up and therefore limited. Sex early will make people willing to have sex with everyone, which will bring about the utopia while eliminating homophobia and helping people become ‘who they really are.’ It will also destroy the hated nuclear family with its paternalism, sexism, ageism (yes, for pedophiles, that is a thing) and all other ‘isms.’ If enough children are sexualized young enough, gayness will suddenly be ‘normal’ and accepted by everyone, and the old fashioned notions about fidelity will vanish. As sex is integrated as a natural part of every single relationship, the barriers between people will vanish, and the utopia will appear, as ‘straight culture’ goes the way of the dinosaur…” - Moira Greyland, daughter of lesbian pedophile author Marion Zimmer Bradley and convicted child molester Walter Breen

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Just going to leave this here:

“My observation of my father and mother’s actual belief is this: since everyone is naturally gay, it is the straight establishment that makes everyone hung up and therefore limited. Sex early will make people willing to have sex with everyone, which will bring about the utopia while eliminating homophobia and helping people become ‘who they really are.’ It will also destroy the hated nuclear family with its paternalism, sexism, ageism (yes, for pedophiles, that is a thing) and all other ‘isms.’ If enough children are sexualized young enough, gayness will suddenly be ‘normal’ and accepted by everyone, and the old fashioned notions about fidelity will vanish. As sex is integrated as a natural part of every single relationship, the barriers between people will vanish, and the utopia will appear, as ‘straight culture’ goes the way of the dinosaur…” - Moira Greyland, daughter of lesbian pedophile author Marion Zimmer Bradley and convicted child molester Walter Breen

Everyone is NOT naturally gay. In fact it goes against nature

 

[mdk]

Teenaged boys are moving to San Francisco to be around homosexuals? How are they convincing their parents to go along with that?

Because their parents don't give a shit about them, threw them out, or they are runaways.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Just going to leave this here:

“My observation of my father and mother’s actual belief is this: since everyone is naturally gay, it is the straight establishment that makes everyone hung up and therefore limited. Sex early will make people willing to have sex with everyone, which will bring about the utopia while eliminating homophobia and helping people become ‘who they really are.’ It will also destroy the hated nuclear family with its paternalism, sexism, ageism (yes, for pedophiles, that is a thing) and all other ‘isms.’ If enough children are sexualized young enough, gayness will suddenly be ‘normal’ and accepted by everyone, and the old fashioned notions about fidelity will vanish. As sex is integrated as a natural part of every single relationship, the barriers between people will vanish, and the utopia will appear, as ‘straight culture’ goes the way of the dinosaur…” - Moira Greyland, daughter of lesbian pedophile author Marion Zimmer Bradley and convicted child molester Walter Breen

Everyone is NOT naturally gay. In fact it goes against nature

Yes, I know they aren't. The quote is in answer to the people who say there's no such thing as "homosexual recruitment". Pretty clearly, at least some homosexuals think there is.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Teenaged boys are moving to San Francisco to be around homosexuals? How are they convincing their parents to go along with that?

Because their parents don't give a shit about them, threw them out, or they are runaways.

Yes, all the teenaged boys in San Francisco who decide they're gay are runaways who came there to be close to other homosexuals.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Just going to leave this here:

“My observation of my father and mother’s actual belief is this: since everyone is naturally gay, it is the straight establishment that makes everyone hung up and therefore limited. Sex early will make people willing to have sex with everyone, which will bring about the utopia while eliminating homophobia and helping people become ‘who they really are.’ It will also destroy the hated nuclear family with its paternalism, sexism, ageism (yes, for pedophiles, that is a thing) and all other ‘isms.’ If enough children are sexualized young enough, gayness will suddenly be ‘normal’ and accepted by everyone, and the old fashioned notions about fidelity will vanish. As sex is integrated as a natural part of every single relationship, the barriers between people will vanish, and the utopia will appear, as ‘straight culture’ goes the way of the dinosaur…” - Moira Greyland, daughter of lesbian pedophile author Marion Zimmer Bradley and convicted child molester Walter Breen

Everyone is NOT naturally gay. In fact it goes against nature

Yes, I know they aren't. The quote is in answer to the people who say there's no such thing as "homosexual recruitment". Pretty clearly, at least some homosexuals think there is.

I understood what and why you posted it but that one statement everyone is naturally gay is absurd and ridiculous

 

[August West]

Just going to leave this here:

“My observation of my father and mother’s actual belief is this: since everyone is naturally gay, it is the straight establishment that makes everyone hung up and therefore limited. Sex early will make people willing to have sex with everyone, which will bring about the utopia while eliminating homophobia and helping people become ‘who they really are.’ It will also destroy the hated nuclear family with its paternalism, sexism, ageism (yes, for pedophiles, that is a thing) and all other ‘isms.’ If enough children are sexualized young enough, gayness will suddenly be ‘normal’ and accepted by everyone, and the old fashioned notions about fidelity will vanish. As sex is integrated as a natural part of every single relationship, the barriers between people will vanish, and the utopia will appear, as ‘straight culture’ goes the way of the dinosaur…” - Moira Greyland, daughter of lesbian pedophile author Marion Zimmer Bradley and convicted child molester Walter Breen

No more stupid than the other stuff here. Lesbian pedophile...gay pedophile...that`s as dumb as it gets I hope. Ted Nugent is an admitted pedophile but he`s not gay.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Just going to leave this here:

“My observation of my father and mother’s actual belief is this: since everyone is naturally gay, it is the straight establishment that makes everyone hung up and therefore limited. Sex early will make people willing to have sex with everyone, which will bring about the utopia while eliminating homophobia and helping people become ‘who they really are.’ It will also destroy the hated nuclear family with its paternalism, sexism, ageism (yes, for pedophiles, that is a thing) and all other ‘isms.’ If enough children are sexualized young enough, gayness will suddenly be ‘normal’ and accepted by everyone, and the old fashioned notions about fidelity will vanish. As sex is integrated as a natural part of every single relationship, the barriers between people will vanish, and the utopia will appear, as ‘straight culture’ goes the way of the dinosaur…” - Moira Greyland, daughter of lesbian pedophile author Marion Zimmer Bradley and convicted child molester Walter Breen

Everyone is NOT naturally gay. In fact it goes against nature

Yes, I know they aren't. The quote is in answer to the people who say there's no such thing as "homosexual recruitment". Pretty clearly, at least some homosexuals think there is.

I understood what and why you posted it but that one statement everyone is naturally gay is absurd and ridiculous

The entire philosophy of life was absurd and ridiculous. Not to mention appalling. That was what Moira Greyland was trying to convey when she decided to write about her childhood with her parents. She wanted to give insight into what the homosexual community in California at that time was like. Among other things.

 

[mdk]

Teenaged boys are moving to San Francisco to be around homosexuals? How are they convincing their parents to go along with that?

Because their parents don't give a shit about them, threw them out, or they are runaways.

Yes, all the teenaged boys in San Francisco who decide they're gay are runaways who came there to be close to other homosexuals.

Did I say that? Nope. Sure didn't.

 

[August West]

Just going to leave this here:

“My observation of my father and mother’s actual belief is this: since everyone is naturally gay, it is the straight establishment that makes everyone hung up and therefore limited. Sex early will make people willing to have sex with everyone, which will bring about the utopia while eliminating homophobia and helping people become ‘who they really are.’ It will also destroy the hated nuclear family with its paternalism, sexism, ageism (yes, for pedophiles, that is a thing) and all other ‘isms.’ If enough children are sexualized young enough, gayness will suddenly be ‘normal’ and accepted by everyone, and the old fashioned notions about fidelity will vanish. As sex is integrated as a natural part of every single relationship, the barriers between people will vanish, and the utopia will appear, as ‘straight culture’ goes the way of the dinosaur…” - Moira Greyland, daughter of lesbian pedophile author Marion Zimmer Bradley and convicted child molester Walter Breen

Everyone is NOT naturally gay. In fact it goes against nature

Yes, I know they aren't. The quote is in answer to the people who say there's no such thing as "homosexual recruitment". Pretty clearly, at least some homosexuals think there is.

One is either gay or they`re not. They can`t be recruited. Do you think you have the potential to be gay?