Should ICE shoot rock throwing protesters? (Poll)

[g5000]

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As usual, just making shit up again.




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Wow. Look at you. Holding on to your delusions with all your might in the face of the facts.

This is really sad, opie. Really, really sad.

 

[g5000]

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I just searched "killed by a rock dropped from overpass"

Many, many hits.




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Usually kids. Not protesters throwing rocks at cop cars, dipshit. The incident at the ICE protests is a one-off.


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[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Usually kids. Not protesters throwing rocks at cop cars, dipshit. The incident at the ICE protests is a one-off.


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Cute post.

WHOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





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[defcon4]

I was outraged that ICE did not shoot protesters throwing rocks at their vehicles at close range as seen in the video.
Obviously a case of "self-defense".
I'm also outraged that the vehicles that taxpayers paid for are being severely damaged.

Demonstrators throw projectiles at cars following ICE raids on Southern California farm

A confrontation erupted Thursday between protesters and federal officials carrying out a raid on a Southern California farm.

apnews.com

Trump wants them arrested. Fine. But throwing rocks or shooting fireworks should not be tolerated. We know that many protesters are armed and love to ambush ICE agents.

Solution to the dilemma

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Usually kids. Not protesters throwing rocks at cop cars, dipshit. The incident at the ICE protests is a one-off.


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So, rocks thrown by kids kill people differently than rocks thrown by "adult" protesters?




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[g5000]

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So, rocks thrown by kids kill people differently than rocks thrown by "adult" protesters?




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So making actual physical contact with the police as they are beaten into a heart attack is NOT "deadly force", but throwing rocks at their cars is.

BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!

You morons are positively schizophrenic.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

So making actual physical contact with the police as they are beaten into a heart attack is NOT "deadly force", but throwing rocks at their cars is.

BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!

You morons are positively schizophrenic.

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try.

As usual.



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[Scoutster]

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So, rocks thrown by kids kill people differently than rocks thrown by "adult" protesters?




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[Clipper]

Killing people for throwing rocks? Isn't that a third world country type of thing?

That's what MAGA idiots want. A police state ruled by their Dear Leader, with his own private army of brownshirt thugs. Hitler had his Gestapo, Trump has ICE.

The cult is all in cuz they is "owning the libs".

 

[defcon4]

That's what MAGA idiots want. A police state ruled by their Dear Leader, with his own private army of brownshirt thugs. Hitler had his Gestapo, Trump has ICE.

The cult is all in cuz they is "owning the libs".

Oh crap! I didn't see this one coming.

 

[Nostra]

They are throwing rocks at vehicles.

It's not like the January 6 protesters who bashed the heads of cops with fire extinguisher.

You fools set that benchmark. Now you have to live with it.

Moron.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Brick-crashes-through-car-windshield-in-Concord-15194695.php

 

[LuckyDuck01!]

I was outraged that ICE did not shoot protesters throwing rocks at their vehicles at close range as seen in the video.
Obviously a case of "self-defense".
I'm also outraged that the vehicles that taxpayers paid for are being severely damaged.

Demonstrators throw projectiles at cars following ICE raids on Southern California farm

A confrontation erupted Thursday between protesters and federal officials carrying out a raid on a Southern California farm.

apnews.com

Trump wants them arrested. Fine. But throwing rocks or shooting fireworks should not be tolerated. We know that many protesters are armed and love to ambush ICE agents.

Whether ICE Agents should shoot rock throwers, depends upon the size of the rocks. Any rock big enough to cause serious bodily harm, should warrant the rioter getting shot.
After shooting the dangerous rioter, the law enforcement should contact the next-of-kin and instruct them to come to the scene and pick up their garbage.

 

[Seth]

Blaming LE for the bad behavior of children.
NO.

Are you a retard or something? A MOB of lawless THUGS are hurling bricks at moving vehicles THAT'S deadly force. It's so obvious that Democrats in Washington want to see DEAD ICE agents or DEAD protesters on TV so they can run to the cameras and bash Trump. That's the sole reason Dem lawmakers and leaders are encouraging these lawless mobs. Same as 2017 when the Dems lawless mobs BURNED, LOOTED, and RIOTED in multiple cities across the country, injuring over 2,000 law enforcement officers.

If your entire philosophy of law depends on who you’re afraid of, then you don’t have a philosophy—you have adrenaline. Yes, mobs are dangerous. Yes, some protesters are criminals. But the rule of law isn’t a suggestion—it’s the anchor. If we toss it overboard every time the water gets rough, we’re not fighting lawlessness—we’re just changing uniforms.

You don’t stop a riot by turning it into a warzone. You stop it by holding everyone accountable to the same standard, whether they wear a badge or not. That’s not soft. That’s strength under control.

Look at Minneapolis in 2021—after Daunte Wright’s death sparked protests, law enforcement used curfews, de-escalation lines, and strategic arrests to reduce tensions without escalating into open conflict. It wasn’t perfect, but it worked better than more body bags would’ve.

 

[Hellokitty]

If your entire philosophy of law depends on who you’re afraid of, then you don’t have a philosophy—you have adrenaline. Yes, mobs are dangerous. Yes, some protesters are criminals. But the rule of law isn’t a suggestion—it’s the anchor. If we toss it overboard every time the water gets rough, we’re not fighting lawlessness—we’re just changing uniforms.

You don’t stop a riot by turning it into a warzone. You stop it by holding everyone accountable to the same standard, whether they wear a badge or not. That’s not soft. That’s strength under control.

Look at Minneapolis in 2021—after Daunte Wright’s death sparked protests, law enforcement used curfews, de-escalation lines, and strategic arrests to reduce tensions without escalating into open conflict. It wasn’t perfect, but it worked better than more body bags would’ve.

The problem with not getting control of the rock throwing is it's instilling rock throwing as an acceptable form of protest and or resisting arrest. We are seeing more and more incidents of rocks being thrown against LE outside of protesting.

 

[Seth]

The problem with not getting control of the rock throwing is it's instilling rock throwing as an acceptable form of protest and or resisting arrest. We are seeing more and more incidents of rocks being thrown against LE outside of protesting.

The problem isn’t that ICE didn’t shoot back. The problem is thinking bullets fix what discipline won’t. Rocks weren’t legitimized by restraint—they were already illegal. If leadership fails to prosecute or contain it the first time, that’s negligence. But turning every protest into a live-fire exercise doesn’t restore order, it trades chaos for carnage.

 

[candycorn]

Usually kids. Not protesters throwing rocks at cop cars, dipshit. The incident at the ICE protests is a one-off.


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I’ve lost track of the hypocrisy from the blobbers....

Are they saying these kids should have been shot on site?

 

[Hellokitty]

The problem isn’t that ICE didn’t shoot back. The problem is thinking bullets fix what discipline won’t. Rocks weren’t legitimized by restraint—they were already illegal. If leadership fails to prosecute or contain it the first time, that’s negligence. But turning every protest into a live-fire exercise doesn’t restore order, it trades chaos for carnage.

Right there is the issue these are not protests.

 

[Seth]

Right there is the issue these are not protests.

Fair point — if we’re talking about people throwing projectiles at vehicles and blocking roadways, that’s not a protest anymore. That’s a riot, and it needs to be treated seriously. But let’s not pretend that live ammo is the magic fix.

We’ve seen what happens when leadership reaches for lethal force first. In Milwaukee (2016), after police shot Sylville Smith, the city erupted into multi-night riots. Bullets didn’t restore order — they lit the fuse.

Contrast that with Brooklyn Center in 2021. After Daunte Wright was shot, unrest flared up fast. But police held the line using tear gas, rubber rounds, and perimeter control. No live fire, and they regained control.

Strong emotions demand strong leadership — not itchy trigger fingers.

 

[teddyearp]

• Ashli Babbitt, an Air Force veteran, was fatally shot by a Capitol Police officer as rioters tried to breach the House chamber.
• Kevin D. Greeson died of a heart attack, collapsing on the sidewalk west of the Capitol on Jan. 6.
• Rosanne Boyland appeared to have been crushed in a stampede of fellow rioters as they surged against the police.
• Benjamin Philips, the founder of a pro-Trump website called Trumparoo, died of a stroke.

Well, I gave a trophy for your post, not because I totally agree with it, but you are one of very very very few who debate with who actually take the time to provide substance instead of just name calling. So for that I thank you.

USA Today added that beside Ashli Babbit, the rest died of natural causes.

Cause of death released for 4 of 5 people at Capitol riot – but not Officer Brian Sicknick

The causes of death for four people who died at the Capitol riot have been released, but results are still pending for Capitol officer Brian Sicknick.

www.usatoday.com

But again, this thread is about the civil war breaking out, not a faux insurrection so this is the last I will indulge your thread derail, going off topic, and basically trying to deflect onto another now dead issue. These riots and potential civil war are happening NOW.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Fair point — if we’re talking about people throwing projectiles at vehicles and blocking roadways, that’s not a protest anymore. That’s a riot, and it needs to be treated seriously. But let’s not pretend that live ammo is the magic fix.

We’ve seen what happens when leadership reaches for lethal force first. In Milwaukee (2016), after police shot Sylville Smith, the city erupted into multi-night riots. Bullets didn’t restore order — they lit the fuse.

Contrast that with Brooklyn Center in 2021. After Daunte Wright was shot, unrest flared up fast. But police held the line using tear gas, rubber rounds, and perimeter control. No live fire, and they regained control.

Strong emotions demand strong leadership — not itchy trigger fingers.

Exactly. Thats why police departments lean heavy on nonlethals and other riot measures instead of lethal force.
ICE is no different.