Should ICE shoot rock throwing protesters? (Poll)

[Kondor3]

...If the ICE protesters should be shot, then so should have been the January 6 protesters who ACTUALLY WOUNDED the cops...

There is no question that the LEO responses to J6 should have been faster and more forceful and effective...

But that was merely a half-a-thousand idiots storming a public building to try to force an administrative outcome...

AMERICAN idiots... not Illegal Aliens...

What we're talking about HERE is repelling an invasion of 20,000,000 Illegal Aliens now present upon American soil...

And the scores of thousands of Legal and Illegal residents who are forcefully trying to stop enforcement of US Law...

Huge frigging difference...

They... and you... are simply going to have to live with the inconsistency, which will not impede the use of Lethal Force...

Mess with ICE and you're going to get your skull cracked, or tossed in jail, or, behind Door No. 3, they'll issue toe tags...

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Operation ******* II continues...

 

[MarathonMike]

Or just shoot the rocks out of their hands before they throw them.

The argument against sedative darts is the varying amounts of sedative needed per body size. That's fine just use a low dose, you don't need to bring down every ICE attacker. They need to know there will be consequences for attacking ICE and right now there are no consequences and they are shooting at ICE agents. This has to stop.

 

[Kondor3]

We need to take a page from the Ukrainians in this context...

The Ukrainians have become the Masters of Drone Warfare...

ICE needs to make much greater use of drones themselves...

Every small detachment sent-out needs one agent to stay-behind and operate a drone, capable of doubling as a loudspeaker, and with the operator-agent in constant radio communications with the ground team...

Every large-scale sortie by ICE needs multiple agents to stay-behind and operate multiple drones...

Combat-caliber highly-survivable drones used for multiple purposes... reconnaissance, pursuit, and lethal and non-lethal weaponry...

Having such drones hovering over the Kalipornia marijuana farm where the shooting occurred might have resulted in the interception and identification and capture of that shooter, or his death if he refused to surrender and continued to shoot...

News media reports indicate that our military is already rethinking its drone strategy and tactics based on findings from the Ukraine war...

It's time for DHS and ICE and CBP to do the same... in this case very, VERY quickly... and deploy that stuff NOW rather than later...

Those agencies may very well already be using drones...

They need to begin using them DIFFERENTLY and more EXTENSIVELY and in greater QUANTITY... and they need to do it damned-fast...

One learns by doing... and all of this mass-deportation stuff is new... but they DO need to learn... and PROFIT from what's learned, and to turn things (the way they use drones) around in a matter of days or weeks, not months or years...

IMHO.

 

[d0gbreath]

Then shoot them again, they will learn

Have you ever successfully extinguished a fire using gasoline?

 

[Delldude]

Update: Machete-wielding Trantifa member face-plants while trying to escape at Portland riot, faces felony federal charge

Julie Mikela Winters, real name Christopher M. Hudson, brandished a machete at federal agents after allegedly trying to light the building on fire

www.ngocomment.com

 

[justoffal]

True enough...

Large-scale application of Lethal Force would be unwise...

Targeted smaller-scale application of Lethal Force when appropriate would be acceptable as a Last Resort...

Or when answering actual Lethal Force directed AT our LEOs...

Given the foolish nature of the rioter-protesters it's a good bet that we'll see the use of Lethal Force in this context quite soon...

Yes unfortunately I believe you're correct.

 

[konradv]

I'm Bidens Corvette.

I’m surprised they’re not saying the files are on Hunter’s laptop!

 

[teddyearp]

ABSOLUTELY!

I'm actually replying to a line in your signature,

The civil war has started, the only thing that is missing are the bullets.

Not any more they're not. I guess we're waiting for them to fire the cannon at Ft. Sumpter now?

These leftist celebrities, politicians, news folks, etc. have been doing all they can to instigate violence since Trump got into office. These widespread attacks on ICE offices didn't really start until after McIvers and company in New Jersey, Alex Padilla in Cali, the commie candidate in New York did it first. Then we have the Axios article which in the spirit of 'responsible journalism' has stated "unnamed sources" in congress have said their constituents want more violence.

 

[Woodznutz]

Sometimes, but not always. The Baleric Slingers were a renowned military unit at that time however.

If you throw any stone from atop a castle rampart it could kill.

 

[teddyearp]

If you throw any stone from atop a castle rampart it could kill.

People have been getting stoned to death for milenia.

 

[Woodznutz]

People have been getting stoned to death for milenia.

That happens a lot even today. 100,000 a year on fentanyl alone.

 

[teddyearp]

That happens a lot even today. 100,000 a year on fentanyl alone.

Haha. They still kill people with rocks too today. No surprise that it's in the idealogical areas aligned with the Democrat party, radical Islamist controlled countries.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Killing people for throwing rocks? Isn't that a third world country type of thing?

So you condone throwing rocks at people

Figures.

 

[westwall]

If you throw any stone from atop a castle rampart it could kill.

If you throw stones from ground level they can too.

 

[toobfreak]

Should ICE shoot rock throwing protesters?​

Let's face facts:

• Why don't you murder your enemies or cheating wife? A: Because the government will shoot you.
• Why don't you rob a bank right now of millions? A: Because a guard or cop will shoot you.
• Why do you pay your taxes? A: Because the government will otherwise come to your house and shoot you.

So, why do protestors feel safe to attack armed federal agents throwing bricks at the head? A: because they stand there and take it and don't shoot back. And if they do, they only use play bullets.

 

[g5000]

Are you a retard or something? A MOB of lawless THUGS are hurling bricks at moving vehicles

Throwing bricks at cars is not deadly force.

You want an example of deadly force so you know the difference?

Beating and electrocuting a cop into a heart attack. THAT is deadly force punishable by up to a presidential pardon.

You tards lost your moral authority on January 6, 2021.

You all set the benchmark for what violence against cops is okay. Now you have to deal with the consequences.

 

[Lisa558]

Throwing bricks at cars is not deadly force.

You want an example of deadly force so you know the difference?

Beating and electrocuting a cop into a heart attack. THAT is deadly force punishable by up to a presidential pardon.

You tards lost your moral authority on January 6, 2021.

You all set the benchmark for what violence against cops is okay. Now you have to deal with the consequences.

Throwing bricks at cars is most definitely deadly force, and has caused deaths before.

You excuse all sorts of vicious, dangerous behavior if it’s committed by illegal aliens or those who protect them.

 

[BluesLegend]

Throwing bricks at cars is not deadly force.

You're an idiot. People have been KILLED from exactly that stupid. God get a brain, then return to the forum.

 

[Lisa558]

You're an idiot. People have been KILLED from exactly that stupid. God get a brain, then return to the forum.

G5000 determines whether an action is criminal or deadly based on who is doing the action:

If an illegal alien, radical leftist, Muslim, or “brown” person throws a rock through someone’s windshield, it is not deadly force and no action should be taken.

If a Trump voter, Jew, or white person shoots a water pistol at someone’s car, it is attempted murder and the perp sent to prison.

 

[eagle1462010]

G5000 determines whether an action is criminal or deadly based on who is doing the action:

If an illegal alien, radical leftist, Muslim, or “brown” person throws a rock through someone’s windshield, it is not deadly force and no action should be taken.

If a Trump voter, Jew, or white person shoots a water pistol at someone’s car, it is attempted murder and the perp sent to prison.

G5000 is here to antagonize and nothing more.