"For those of you who support Obama's vision of social justice....please explain why logically and coherently. For those of you who do not....the same rules apply. I appreciate the debate and input."
For those who do not agree that crime is government, just because a fellow criminals says so, the logic is coherently explained in many words such as:
"The reason it should be voluntary is because forced distribution of funds from peter to paul is theft, not charity."
A voluntary government was in place. People volunteered to GIVE what they had so as to secure voluntary mutual defense against all enemies of innocent people foreign and domestic, and then the criminals took over.
Obama, or Bush, or Clinton, or whoever is falsely elected as president of counterfeit government, which is crime under the color of law, is a slave trader. That is the vision of all criminals, they enslave people.
Slave traders steal people. Slave traders have a vision all right, and the vision slave traders have is to enslave, or steal, people.
The slave trader sells the slaves to fellow slave traders, and the slaves are made to work, and the work produces something worth stealing, and in order to keep the slave trade going, the visionary slave traders cut fellow slave traders in on a piece of the action.
Welfare, so called, is a transfer of stolen property from the thieves who steal the stolen property, to the recipients of the stolen property.
The logical worst cases of this stolen property (welfare) is the abomination called The Federal Reserve. Coherently a small group of people claim to be lenders of last resort.
Is that coherent?
A small group of people, part of Obama's vision, claim to be lenders of last resort.
Did that reach any coherent brains?
The small group of people called The Federal Reserve lend lies written on pieces of paper, and more lies accounted in digital accounts.
The small group of Obama's vision, and the vision for Jeb, George, and another George Bush, and the Clinton's, known as The Federal Reserve tell the truth when they claim that the people who produce anything worth stealing are backing the good faith and credit of the lenders of last resort.
Is that too complicated to be logically and coherently reasoned out by anyone on this Forum?
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So, in fact, the so called government that is part of Obama's vision is a confidence scheme whereby a few people called The Federal Reserve "borrow" (steal) credit from the people in America who produce anything worth stealing, and then these people spend that "borrowed" (stolen) credit when they claim (falsely) to be lending that stolen property to the false government envisioned by Obama, or Bush, or Clinton, or whoever else shares that vision to be puppet on a criminal string.
When the so called President does not obey the criminal orders without question the so called President is murdered along with anyone else who may be an actual leader of the free world such as Martin Luther King Jr.
Why are you people, all of ya'll, buying into this confidence scheme with wild abandon?
"For those of you who do not....the same rules apply."
Which rules? The rules that dictate blind obedience to falsehood without question? Nazi's were hung by the neck until death for such crimes against humanity. Patriots by the thousands, during the war for independence, were placed on prison ships (concentration camps) to be starved to death in defense of questioning the criminal orders.
The criminals were among us even then, enslaving people, and promising their criminal version of freedom if only the slaves would rise up and revolt against their masters. All the while, as offered by Martin Luther King Jr., all we have to do is wise up and say no more. And proven by his surviving family, we still have trial by jury for our defense right here in these United States of America.
If the idea is to remain truthful, honest, honorable, then why ignore the simple fact that theft, under any false coloring, is still theft, and that means that the one receiving the stolen property is culpable as one of the slave traders.