CDZ Should firearm training be free for the poor, or at least have a government program for free trainin

[2aguy]

persons seeking to buy baseball bats should be subjected to
background checks. It seems to me that about 30% of
murders presented on the TV series "snapped" involve base-
ball bats

Clubs kill more people each year than all models of rifles combined.......as do empty hands and knives...

 

[miketx]

School training is great.

 

[2aguy]

I agree completely. There is a constitutional right to own a gun if you so choose, so the government should pay so that constitutionally granted right can be enjoyed as safely as possible. Of course, that means that the right to an abortion, which is also a constitutional right if the woman so chooses, should also be paid for by the government so that constitutionally granted right can be practiced as safely as possible too. This is fun. What other constitutional rights do you want the government to pay for? Mark this day down. We are finally in agreement.

There is a constitutional right to vote, should there be FREE voter ID's? I am all for training of weapons, just as long as those who purchase weapons are law abiding citizens, not some flaming liberal who wants to go shoot blacks in a poor church. Or a movie theater in Colorado. Or kids in an elementary school. If you are nuts, and the leftwing is nuts, ban them from learning how to shoot, don't give them a voter ID and send them all to Cuba. The US would be great again. Liberals are miserable wretches.

You might want to note that the examples you gave have already been fulfilled by right wing gun nuts, and the NRA is fighting daily to protect the rights of crazies to buy all the guns they want.

And of course you have to lie in order to push your argument...since the truth isn't on your side.....The ACLU and the NRA both support the concept that you can't take away the Rights of an American without due process and actual cause....you, being a left winger, just want power....so stripping citizens of their Rights because you don't like what they do is good for you...

 

[2aguy]

Since when did people have to pay to vote???? Or am I misunderstanding something???

As for what is considered Constitutional nowadays??? I don't think the Government has any damn business in my bedroom, bathroom or what I do with my body. That's mine and they should stay the heck out.....those so called laws on the books shouldn't involve Federal Government.


As for guns? Gun safety and responsibility should be taught in schools to all students. There would be a lot less events involving kids with guns in the news.

This is about the only level of training we should mandate....gun safety training for all elementary kids....consisting of the 4 rules.....that would actually save lives....

 

[BULLDOG]

I agree completely. There is a constitutional right to own a gun if you so choose, so the government should pay so that constitutionally granted right can be enjoyed as safely as possible. Of course, that means that the right to an abortion, which is also a constitutional right if the woman so chooses, should also be paid for by the government so that constitutionally granted right can be practiced as safely as possible too. This is fun. What other constitutional rights do you want the government to pay for? Mark this day down. We are finally in agreement.

Abortion is not a Constitutional Right.....the ability to murder a defenseless human is not a Right, that is a crime.

Sorry, but the supreme court disagrees with you.
Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973), is a landmark decision by the United States Supreme Court on the issue of abortion. It was decided simultaneously with a companion case, Doe v. Bolton. The Court ruled 7–2 that a right to privacy under the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment extended to a woman's decision to have an abortion, but that this right must be balanced against the state's interests in regulating abortions: protecting women's health and protecting the potentiality of human life.[1] Arguing that these state interests became stronger over the course of a pregnancy, the Court resolved this balancing test by tying state regulation of abortion to the third trimester of pregnancy.

Later, in Planned Parenthood v. Casey (1992), the Court rejected Roe's trimester framework while affirming its central holding that a woman has a right to abortion until fetal viability.[2] The Roe decision defined "viable" as "potentially able to live outside the mother's womb, albeit with artificial aid."[3] Justices in Casey acknowledged that viability may occur at 23 or 24 weeks, or sometimes even earlier, in light of medical advances.[4]

 

[2aguy]

I agree completely. There is a constitutional right to own a gun if you so choose, so the government should pay so that constitutionally granted right can be enjoyed as safely as possible. Of course, that means that the right to an abortion, which is also a constitutional right if the woman so chooses, should also be paid for by the government so that constitutionally granted right can be practiced as safely as possible too. This is fun. What other constitutional rights do you want the government to pay for? Mark this day down. We are finally in agreement.

Abortion is not a Constitutional Right.....the ability to murder a defenseless human is not a Right, that is a crime.

Sorry, but the supreme court disagrees with you.
Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973), is a landmark decision by the United States Supreme Court on the issue of abortion. It was decided simultaneously with a companion case, Doe v. Bolton. The Court ruled 7–2 that a right to privacy under the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment extended to a woman's decision to have an abortion, but that this right must be balanced against the state's interests in regulating abortions: protecting women's health and protecting the potentiality of human life.[1] Arguing that these state interests became stronger over the course of a pregnancy, the Court resolved this balancing test by tying state regulation of abortion to the third trimester of pregnancy.

Later, in Planned Parenthood v. Casey (1992), the Court rejected Roe's trimester framework while affirming its central holding that a woman has a right to abortion until fetal viability.[2] The Roe decision defined "viable" as "potentially able to live outside the mother's womb, albeit with artificial aid."[3] Justices in Casey acknowledged that viability may occur at 23 or 24 weeks, or sometimes even earlier, in light of medical advances.[4]

The Supreme Court is Wrong.....the Supreme Court was also wrong on Plessy v. Ferguson and Dredd Scott...do you think they got those rulings right?

The murder of innocent humans is a crime, not a Right....

Do you also stick by these decisions by democrat Supreme court justices...?

Plessy v. Ferguson - Wikipedia

Dred Scott v. Sandford - Wikipedia

 

[BULLDOG]

I agree completely. There is a constitutional right to own a gun if you so choose, so the government should pay so that constitutionally granted right can be enjoyed as safely as possible. Of course, that means that the right to an abortion, which is also a constitutional right if the woman so chooses, should also be paid for by the government so that constitutionally granted right can be practiced as safely as possible too. This is fun. What other constitutional rights do you want the government to pay for? Mark this day down. We are finally in agreement.

obesity

Perfect. We all have the right to be obese if we want to. 2aguy and I both agree that the government should pay for us to become obese if we want to, and then pay for any medical problems that might cause. See, his idea about government paid for gun courses wasn't as crazy as some might have thought.

And who said I agree with the article...or the premise? I put this here to discuss.....

For me.....any time the government provides something you can bet it will try to control it. Free training would become mandatory, and there would go the actual practice of the Right...

Training should not be a requirement any more than when the democrats used Literacy tests for blacks to vote.....

But you sounded so in favor of it in your OP. You're right though. Training gun nuts should not be mandatory, any more than abortion should be mandatory. If you want to open it all up without restrictions, then by all means open it all up. If there is any restriction to one, there should be reasonable restrictions to all.

 

[BULLDOG]

I agree completely. There is a constitutional right to own a gun if you so choose, so the government should pay so that constitutionally granted right can be enjoyed as safely as possible. Of course, that means that the right to an abortion, which is also a constitutional right if the woman so chooses, should also be paid for by the government so that constitutionally granted right can be practiced as safely as possible too. This is fun. What other constitutional rights do you want the government to pay for? Mark this day down. We are finally in agreement.

There is a constitutional right to vote, should there be FREE voter ID's? I am all for training of weapons, just as long as those who purchase weapons are law abiding citizens, not some flaming liberal who wants to go shoot blacks in a poor church. Or a movie theater in Colorado. Or kids in an elementary school. If you are nuts, and the leftwing is nuts, ban them from learning how to shoot, don't give them a voter ID and send them all to Cuba. The US would be great again. Liberals are miserable wretches.

Voter I.D.s are already free....they can't charge for them....

Yes, but the right to vote is even more important than the right to be a gun nut. No training restrictions for carrying a gun = no ID requirement for voting. Isn't this fun buddy?

 

[yiostheoy]

I agree completely. There is a constitutional right to own a gun if you so choose, so the government should pay so that constitutionally granted right can be enjoyed as safely as possible. Of course, that means that the right to an abortion, which is also a constitutional right if the woman so chooses, should also be paid for by the government so that constitutionally granted right can be practiced as safely as possible too. This is fun. What other constitutional rights do you want the government to pay for? Mark this day down. We are finally in agreement.

Abortion is not a Constitutional Right.....the ability to murder a defenseless human is not a Right, that is a crime.

Sorry, but the supreme court disagrees with you.
Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973), is a landmark decision by the United States Supreme Court on the issue of abortion. It was decided simultaneously with a companion case, Doe v. Bolton. The Court ruled 7–2 that a right to privacy under the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment extended to a woman's decision to have an abortion, but that this right must be balanced against the state's interests in regulating abortions: protecting women's health and protecting the potentiality of human life.[1] Arguing that these state interests became stronger over the course of a pregnancy, the Court resolved this balancing test by tying state regulation of abortion to the third trimester of pregnancy.

Later, in Planned Parenthood v. Casey (1992), the Court rejected Roe's trimester framework while affirming its central holding that a woman has a right to abortion until fetal viability.[2] The Roe decision defined "viable" as "potentially able to live outside the mother's womb, albeit with artificial aid."[3] Justices in Casey acknowledged that viability may occur at 23 or 24 weeks, or sometimes even earlier, in light of medical advances.[4]

The Supreme Court is Wrong.....the Supreme Court was also wrong on Plessy v. Ferguson and Dredd Scott...do you think they got those rulings right?

The murder of innocent humans is a crime, not a Right....

Do you also stick by these decisions by democrat Supreme court justices...?

Plessy v. Ferguson - Wikipedia

Dred Scott v. Sandford - Wikipedia

As much as you don't like it, you cannot successfully contradict Scalia.

He is the most ultra conservative ultra strict constructionist ultra pro gun SCOTUS justice in the history of the SCOTUS.

And Dred Scott was good law at the time. They had to amend the Constitution to overrule it.

If you think Dred Scott was bad law then you have been brainwashed since 8th Grade.

 

[BULLDOG]

I agree completely. There is a constitutional right to own a gun if you so choose, so the government should pay so that constitutionally granted right can be enjoyed as safely as possible. Of course, that means that the right to an abortion, which is also a constitutional right if the woman so chooses, should also be paid for by the government so that constitutionally granted right can be practiced as safely as possible too. This is fun. What other constitutional rights do you want the government to pay for? Mark this day down. We are finally in agreement.

There is a constitutional right to vote, should there be FREE voter ID's? I am all for training of weapons, just as long as those who purchase weapons are law abiding citizens, not some flaming liberal who wants to go shoot blacks in a poor church. Or a movie theater in Colorado. Or kids in an elementary school. If you are nuts, and the leftwing is nuts, ban them from learning how to shoot, don't give them a voter ID and send them all to Cuba. The US would be great again. Liberals are miserable wretches.

You might want to note that the examples you gave have already been fulfilled by right wing gun nuts, and the NRA is fighting daily to protect the rights of crazies to buy all the guns they want.

And of course you have to lie in order to push your argument...since the truth isn't on your side.....The ACLU and the NRA both support the concept that you can't take away the Rights of an American without due process and actual cause....you, being a left winger, just want power....so stripping citizens of their Rights because you don't like what they do is good for you...

Great idea ARM THE CRAZIES!! THE NRA SUPPORTS THE RIGHT FOR ALL CRAZIES TO BE ARMED TO THE TEETH!!!!

 

[yiostheoy]

I agree completely. There is a constitutional right to own a gun if you so choose, so the government should pay so that constitutionally granted right can be enjoyed as safely as possible. Of course, that means that the right to an abortion, which is also a constitutional right if the woman so chooses, should also be paid for by the government so that constitutionally granted right can be practiced as safely as possible too. This is fun. What other constitutional rights do you want the government to pay for? Mark this day down. We are finally in agreement.

There is a constitutional right to vote, should there be FREE voter ID's? I am all for training of weapons, just as long as those who purchase weapons are law abiding citizens, not some flaming liberal who wants to go shoot blacks in a poor church. Or a movie theater in Colorado. Or kids in an elementary school. If you are nuts, and the leftwing is nuts, ban them from learning how to shoot, don't give them a voter ID and send them all to Cuba. The US would be great again. Liberals are miserable wretches.

Voter I.D.s are already free....they can't charge for them....

Yes, but the right to vote is even more important than the right to be a gun nut. No training restrictions for carrying a gun = no ID requirement for voting. Isn't this fun buddy?

Here is my order of priority for the importance of rights --

1 - the right to be armed 24/7/365 everywhere you go, however this right is tempered by the State legislatures according to Scalia in Heller;

2 - the right against warrantless searches;

3 - the right to vote;

Etc.

 

[BULLDOG]

I agree completely. There is a constitutional right to own a gun if you so choose, so the government should pay so that constitutionally granted right can be enjoyed as safely as possible. Of course, that means that the right to an abortion, which is also a constitutional right if the woman so chooses, should also be paid for by the government so that constitutionally granted right can be practiced as safely as possible too. This is fun. What other constitutional rights do you want the government to pay for? Mark this day down. We are finally in agreement.

Abortion is not a Constitutional Right.....the ability to murder a defenseless human is not a Right, that is a crime.

Sorry, but the supreme court disagrees with you.
Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973), is a landmark decision by the United States Supreme Court on the issue of abortion. It was decided simultaneously with a companion case, Doe v. Bolton. The Court ruled 7–2 that a right to privacy under the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment extended to a woman's decision to have an abortion, but that this right must be balanced against the state's interests in regulating abortions: protecting women's health and protecting the potentiality of human life.[1] Arguing that these state interests became stronger over the course of a pregnancy, the Court resolved this balancing test by tying state regulation of abortion to the third trimester of pregnancy.

Later, in Planned Parenthood v. Casey (1992), the Court rejected Roe's trimester framework while affirming its central holding that a woman has a right to abortion until fetal viability.[2] The Roe decision defined "viable" as "potentially able to live outside the mother's womb, albeit with artificial aid."[3] Justices in Casey acknowledged that viability may occur at 23 or 24 weeks, or sometimes even earlier, in light of medical advances.[4]

The Supreme Court is Wrong.....the Supreme Court was also wrong on Plessy v. Ferguson and Dredd Scott...do you think they got those rulings right?

The murder of innocent humans is a crime, not a Right....

Do you also stick by these decisions by democrat Supreme court justices...?

Plessy v. Ferguson - Wikipedia

Dred Scott v. Sandford - Wikipedia

You should go tell them right now. I'm sure that if you explain it to them nicely, they will just forget all their study of the law and the constitution, and just change their minds. If that doesn't work, you could always write a letter to the editor.

 

[yiostheoy]

I agree completely. There is a constitutional right to own a gun if you so choose, so the government should pay so that constitutionally granted right can be enjoyed as safely as possible. Of course, that means that the right to an abortion, which is also a constitutional right if the woman so chooses, should also be paid for by the government so that constitutionally granted right can be practiced as safely as possible too. This is fun. What other constitutional rights do you want the government to pay for? Mark this day down. We are finally in agreement.

There is a constitutional right to vote, should there be FREE voter ID's? I am all for training of weapons, just as long as those who purchase weapons are law abiding citizens, not some flaming liberal who wants to go shoot blacks in a poor church. Or a movie theater in Colorado. Or kids in an elementary school. If you are nuts, and the leftwing is nuts, ban them from learning how to shoot, don't give them a voter ID and send them all to Cuba. The US would be great again. Liberals are miserable wretches.

You might want to note that the examples you gave have already been fulfilled by right wing gun nuts, and the NRA is fighting daily to protect the rights of crazies to buy all the guns they want.

And of course you have to lie in order to push your argument...since the truth isn't on your side.....The ACLU and the NRA both support the concept that you can't take away the Rights of an American without due process and actual cause....you, being a left winger, just want power....so stripping citizens of their Rights because you don't like what they do is good for you...

Great idea ARM THE CRAZIES!! THE NRA SUPPORTS THE RIGHT FOR ALL CRAZIES TO BE ARMED TO THE TEETH!!!!

2aguy is just a wee bit wacko. Not a lot though.

He does not believe in the 10th Amendment.

He does not believe Scalia.

And he wants more in the 2nd Amendment.

 

[BULLDOG]

I agree completely. There is a constitutional right to own a gun if you so choose, so the government should pay so that constitutionally granted right can be enjoyed as safely as possible. Of course, that means that the right to an abortion, which is also a constitutional right if the woman so chooses, should also be paid for by the government so that constitutionally granted right can be practiced as safely as possible too. This is fun. What other constitutional rights do you want the government to pay for? Mark this day down. We are finally in agreement.

There is a constitutional right to vote, should there be FREE voter ID's? I am all for training of weapons, just as long as those who purchase weapons are law abiding citizens, not some flaming liberal who wants to go shoot blacks in a poor church. Or a movie theater in Colorado. Or kids in an elementary school. If you are nuts, and the leftwing is nuts, ban them from learning how to shoot, don't give them a voter ID and send them all to Cuba. The US would be great again. Liberals are miserable wretches.

Voter I.D.s are already free....they can't charge for them....

Yes, but the right to vote is even more important than the right to be a gun nut. No training restrictions for carrying a gun = no ID requirement for voting. Isn't this fun buddy?

Here is my order of priority for the importance of rights --

1 - the right to be armed 24/7/365 everywhere you go, however this right is tempered by the State legislatures according to Scalia in Heller;

2 - the right against warrantless searches;

3 - the right to vote;

Etc.

I'm not sure you can personally set those priorities for the country. Lots of people will have a different list.

 

[BULLDOG]

I agree completely. There is a constitutional right to own a gun if you so choose, so the government should pay so that constitutionally granted right can be enjoyed as safely as possible. Of course, that means that the right to an abortion, which is also a constitutional right if the woman so chooses, should also be paid for by the government so that constitutionally granted right can be practiced as safely as possible too. This is fun. What other constitutional rights do you want the government to pay for? Mark this day down. We are finally in agreement.

There is a constitutional right to vote, should there be FREE voter ID's? I am all for training of weapons, just as long as those who purchase weapons are law abiding citizens, not some flaming liberal who wants to go shoot blacks in a poor church. Or a movie theater in Colorado. Or kids in an elementary school. If you are nuts, and the leftwing is nuts, ban them from learning how to shoot, don't give them a voter ID and send them all to Cuba. The US would be great again. Liberals are miserable wretches.

You might want to note that the examples you gave have already been fulfilled by right wing gun nuts, and the NRA is fighting daily to protect the rights of crazies to buy all the guns they want.

And of course you have to lie in order to push your argument...since the truth isn't on your side.....The ACLU and the NRA both support the concept that you can't take away the Rights of an American without due process and actual cause....you, being a left winger, just want power....so stripping citizens of their Rights because you don't like what they do is good for you...

Great idea ARM THE CRAZIES!! THE NRA SUPPORTS THE RIGHT FOR ALL CRAZIES TO BE ARMED TO THE TEETH!!!!

2aguy is just a wee bit wacko. Not a lot though.

He does not believe in the 10th Amendment.

He does not believe Scalia.

And he wants more in the 2nd Amendment.

You should read more of his posts. He is a LOT crazy.

 

[2aguy]

I agree completely. There is a constitutional right to own a gun if you so choose, so the government should pay so that constitutionally granted right can be enjoyed as safely as possible. Of course, that means that the right to an abortion, which is also a constitutional right if the woman so chooses, should also be paid for by the government so that constitutionally granted right can be practiced as safely as possible too. This is fun. What other constitutional rights do you want the government to pay for? Mark this day down. We are finally in agreement.

There is a constitutional right to vote, should there be FREE voter ID's? I am all for training of weapons, just as long as those who purchase weapons are law abiding citizens, not some flaming liberal who wants to go shoot blacks in a poor church. Or a movie theater in Colorado. Or kids in an elementary school. If you are nuts, and the leftwing is nuts, ban them from learning how to shoot, don't give them a voter ID and send them all to Cuba. The US would be great again. Liberals are miserable wretches.

Voter I.D.s are already free....they can't charge for them....

Yes, but the right to vote is even more important than the right to be a gun nut. No training restrictions for carrying a gun = no ID requirement for voting. Isn't this fun buddy?

No....free voter i.d. cards are constitutional.....and I am more than happy to show an i.d. when I buy a gun.....I have a drivers license......

 

[2aguy]

I agree completely. There is a constitutional right to own a gun if you so choose, so the government should pay so that constitutionally granted right can be enjoyed as safely as possible. Of course, that means that the right to an abortion, which is also a constitutional right if the woman so chooses, should also be paid for by the government so that constitutionally granted right can be practiced as safely as possible too. This is fun. What other constitutional rights do you want the government to pay for? Mark this day down. We are finally in agreement.

There is a constitutional right to vote, should there be FREE voter ID's? I am all for training of weapons, just as long as those who purchase weapons are law abiding citizens, not some flaming liberal who wants to go shoot blacks in a poor church. Or a movie theater in Colorado. Or kids in an elementary school. If you are nuts, and the leftwing is nuts, ban them from learning how to shoot, don't give them a voter ID and send them all to Cuba. The US would be great again. Liberals are miserable wretches.

Voter I.D.s are already free....they can't charge for them....

Yes, but the right to vote is even more important than the right to be a gun nut. No training restrictions for carrying a gun = no ID requirement for voting. Isn't this fun buddy?

The Right to vote is protected by the Right to own and carry a gun.

 

[2aguy]

I agree completely. There is a constitutional right to own a gun if you so choose, so the government should pay so that constitutionally granted right can be enjoyed as safely as possible. Of course, that means that the right to an abortion, which is also a constitutional right if the woman so chooses, should also be paid for by the government so that constitutionally granted right can be practiced as safely as possible too. This is fun. What other constitutional rights do you want the government to pay for? Mark this day down. We are finally in agreement.

obesity

Perfect. We all have the right to be obese if we want to. 2aguy and I both agree that the government should pay for us to become obese if we want to, and then pay for any medical problems that might cause. See, his idea about government paid for gun courses wasn't as crazy as some might have thought.

And who said I agree with the article...or the premise? I put this here to discuss.....

For me.....any time the government provides something you can bet it will try to control it. Free training would become mandatory, and there would go the actual practice of the Right...

Training should not be a requirement any more than when the democrats used Literacy tests for blacks to vote.....

But you sounded so in favor of it in your OP. You're right though. Training gun nuts should not be mandatory, any more than abortion should be mandatory. If you want to open it all up without restrictions, then by all means open it all up. If there is any restriction to one, there should be reasonable restrictions to all.

Abortion denies the Right to life to the unborn....it is UnConstituional......as we have already discussed...

 

[BULLDOG]

I agree completely. There is a constitutional right to own a gun if you so choose, so the government should pay so that constitutionally granted right can be enjoyed as safely as possible. Of course, that means that the right to an abortion, which is also a constitutional right if the woman so chooses, should also be paid for by the government so that constitutionally granted right can be practiced as safely as possible too. This is fun. What other constitutional rights do you want the government to pay for? Mark this day down. We are finally in agreement.

There is a constitutional right to vote, should there be FREE voter ID's? I am all for training of weapons, just as long as those who purchase weapons are law abiding citizens, not some flaming liberal who wants to go shoot blacks in a poor church. Or a movie theater in Colorado. Or kids in an elementary school. If you are nuts, and the leftwing is nuts, ban them from learning how to shoot, don't give them a voter ID and send them all to Cuba. The US would be great again. Liberals are miserable wretches.

Voter I.D.s are already free....they can't charge for them....

Yes, but the right to vote is even more important than the right to be a gun nut. No training restrictions for carrying a gun = no ID requirement for voting. Isn't this fun buddy?

The Right to vote is protected by the Right to own and carry a gun.

When is the last time a person had to pull a gun to be able to vote?

 

[2aguy]

I agree completely. There is a constitutional right to own a gun if you so choose, so the government should pay so that constitutionally granted right can be enjoyed as safely as possible. Of course, that means that the right to an abortion, which is also a constitutional right if the woman so chooses, should also be paid for by the government so that constitutionally granted right can be practiced as safely as possible too. This is fun. What other constitutional rights do you want the government to pay for? Mark this day down. We are finally in agreement.

There is a constitutional right to vote, should there be FREE voter ID's? I am all for training of weapons, just as long as those who purchase weapons are law abiding citizens, not some flaming liberal who wants to go shoot blacks in a poor church. Or a movie theater in Colorado. Or kids in an elementary school. If you are nuts, and the leftwing is nuts, ban them from learning how to shoot, don't give them a voter ID and send them all to Cuba. The US would be great again. Liberals are miserable wretches.

You might want to note that the examples you gave have already been fulfilled by right wing gun nuts, and the NRA is fighting daily to protect the rights of crazies to buy all the guns they want.

And of course you have to lie in order to push your argument...since the truth isn't on your side.....The ACLU and the NRA both support the concept that you can't take away the Rights of an American without due process and actual cause....you, being a left winger, just want power....so stripping citizens of their Rights because you don't like what they do is good for you...

Great idea ARM THE CRAZIES!! THE NRA SUPPORTS THE RIGHT FOR ALL CRAZIES TO BE ARMED TO THE TEETH!!!!

That is, of course, a lie.......the ACLU and the NRA want due process Rights observed before AMericans are stripped of a fundamental Right....you disagree with this?