Should Evolutionary Theory be limited to thirteen point seven billion years?

Did "Evolution" take place over infinite time in the past?

  • No, only over fourteen billion years.

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  • Yes

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  • I rather do hope so, but I am not certain, I am an Agnostic on this question?!

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  • Yes, and this means that we are postulating a Being of Light with infinite technology

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  • Other answer, please be specific in a reply.

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I am of the belief that chapter thirteen of the book "Stephen Hawking's Universe" that was entitled "The Anthropic Principle" expands "Evolutionary Theory" back to essentially infinite time in the past.

The Anthropic Principle includes The Cyclic Model of the Universe and strangely an Atheist near death experiencer was shown something astonishingly similar to what Stephen Hawking Ph. D. postulated and elaborated on in chapter thirteen of his book.

I suspect that Stephen Hawking Ph. D. was not a full fledged Atheist but instead had to term himself an "Atheist" in order to be published, but in fact he was likely an Agnostic with perhaps rather serious leanings toward Theistic Evolutionary Theory?

6. The Void​

At this point of my NDE, I found myself in a profound stillness, beyond all silence. I could see or perceive FOREVER, beyond Infinity. I was in the Void.

I was in pre-creation, before the Big Bang. I had crossed over the beginning of time / the First Word / the First vibration. I was in the Eye of Creation. I felt as if I was touching the Face of God. It was not a religious feeling. Simply, I was at one with Absolute Life and Consciousness. When I say that I could see or perceive forever, I mean that I could experience all of creation generating itself. It was without beginning and without end. That’s a mind-expanding thought, isn’t it? Scientists perceive the Big Bang as a single event that created the Universe. I saw during my life after death experience that the Big Bang is only one of an infinite number of Big Bangs creating Universes endlessly and simultaneously. The only images that even come close in human terms would be those created by super computers using fractal geometry equations.

The ancients knew of this. They said God had periodically created new Universes by breathing out, and recreated other Universes by breathing in. These epochs were called Yugas. Modern science called this the Big Bang. I was in absolute, pure consciousness. I could see or perceive all the Big Bangs or Yugas creating and recreating themselves. Instantly I entered into them all simultaneously. I saw that each and every little piece of creation has the power to create. It is very difficult to try to explain this. I am still speechless about this.




Could a Being composed of Energy from Quantum Vacuum, [or something like that theoretical force], in a sense learn and evolve and get better and better and better at creating "others' or even "Others" over INFINITE time in the past?

Would this mean that our "Creator" could be first and foremost an inventor, an engineer, an architect somewhat like Nikola Tesla, but is composed of Energy from Quantum Vacuum, and is not limited by life in a body composed largely of carbon?
 
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I am of the belief that chapter thirteen of the book "Stephen Hawking's Universe" that was entitled "The Anthropic Principle" expands "Evolutionary Theory" back to essentially infinite time in the past.

The Anthropic Principle includes The Cyclic Model of the Universe and strangely an Atheist near death experiencer was shown something astonishingly similar to what Stephen Hawking Ph. D. postulated and elaborated on in chapter thirteen of his book.

I suspect that Stephen Hawking Ph. D. was not a full fledged Atheist but instead had to term himself an "Atheist" in order to be published, but in fact he was likely an Agnostic with perhaps rather serious leanings toward Theistic Evolutionary Theory?




Could a Being composed of Energy from Quantum Vacuum, [or something like that theoretical force], in a sense learn and evolve and get better and better and better at creating "others' or even "Others" over INFINITE time in the past?

Would this mean that our "Creator" could be first and foremost an inventor, an engineer, an architect somewhat like Nikola Tesla, but is composed of Energy from Quantum Vacuum, and is not limited by life in a body composed largely of carbon?
All life is subject to the law of evolution.
 
All life is subject to the law of evolution.

Actually I agree with you. Perhaps one of the most prolific and best writers on what could be seen as the foundation for "Theistic Evolutionary Theory" in Theoretical Physics, would be Chaim Henry Tejman M. D.


ttp://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/fund/fund1.htm
"The prevalent and prevailing consensus points to four fundamental forces —
electromagnetism, gravitation, as well as strong and weak nuclear forces — but I
aver that there is only one force: energetic matter. The energetic matter
creates wave formations are expressed exclusively by the two principle behaviors
(forces) of pushing and pulling." (Dr. Chaim Tejman)

The Fundamental Force
"The swirling and spinning motion creates circular formations. To finish
constructing the wave, the energetic matter must complete two semi-circular rounds. The figures are executed perpendicular to each other, and their energetic paths are in a state of superposition. The closed formation allows the energetic matter to move along closed energetic paths and maintain its energetic matter. It creates two internal swirls (vortices), which are neither identical nor symmetrical. In other words, the same type of energetic matter that moves along a common path that is shared by both swirls within a particular wave formation. Nevertheless, the swirls do not contain equal amounts of energy even in units with the same amount of space." (Dr. Chaim Tejman)

Wave Theory and Gender: Why Sex
"Pulling and gravitation, which resemble basic feminine traits, are the dominant properties of the magnetic loop. Consequently, magnetic loops have a capacity for storing energy and act to maintain the structural integrity of the entire wave formation. The electronic/energetic loop consists of expanding properties that disperse energetic matter that “disappears” into space. This is synonymous with masculine characteristics." (Dr. Chaim Tejman)


ttp://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/book/life1.htm
"The essential matter from which our universe is created is energetic matter. It behaves like living matter, creating every known entity, including living objects and even thought (which occurs through energetic matter–wave interaction). The essential structure of energetic matter is high-energy (concentrated energetic matter) electro-magnetic waves (picture above). This simple structure is the basis of everything: every energetic formation and the universe. In picture 2, we see that the DNA (double helix) of all living formations has the same structure as waves: two loops of the same energetic matter, behaving according to the same rules." (Dr. Chaim Tejman)
 
Actually I agree with you. Perhaps one of the most prolific and best writers on what could be seen as the foundation for "Theistic Evolutionary Theory" in Theoretical Physics, would be Chaim Henry Tejman M. D.
Over my head, I'm still struggling with quantum theory. I think the issue is there are some fundamental properties of the universe we have yet to discern. Maybe someday.
 
Over my head, I'm still struggling with quantum theory. I think the issue is there are some fundamental properties of the universe we have yet to discern. Maybe someday.


Before he passed on into the higher invisible dimensions of space and time Stephen Hawking Ph. D. did his best to put String Theory into high school level English. I do believe that Dr. Hawking felt a responsibility to set up those who would come along after he passed on with the tools necessary to come up with a genuine Grand Unified Theory of Space and Time.

The title page of the article that I took this from had Dr. Hawking's picture implying that he and his Ph. D. level students were involved in writing this article.


"It was not until 1920 that the idea of linking electromagnetism and
gravity resurfaced. At that time a new theory of gravitation had been proposed by Albert Einstein (1879-1955), called the general theory of relativity. It was a replacement of Newton's theory, which had stood unchallenged since 1687. Inspired by Einstein's work, a young German mathematician named Theodore Kaluza was seized by a curious idea. The theory of relativity links space an time together to form a four-dimensional space-time continuum. What would happen, mused Kaluza, if general relativity were formulated in five rather than four dimensions? This is what Kaluza did, and to everyone's astonishment it was discovered that five-dimensional gravity obeys the same laws as
four-dimensional gravity as well as Maxwell's laws for the electromagnetic field. In other words, gravitation and electromagnetism are automatically unified in five dimensions, where electromagnetism is merely a component of gravity!"


The only drawback of the theory concerns the extra dimension. Why
don't we see it?
An ingenious answer was provided by Oskar Klein. A
hosepipe viewed from afar looks like a wiggly line, i.e. one- dimensional.
However, on closer inspection it can be seen as a narrow tube. It is, in fact,
two-dimensional, and what was taken to be a point on the line is actually a
little circle going around the tube. In the same way, reasoned Klein, what we normally regard as a point in three dimensional space could in reality be a little circle going around a fourth space dimension. Thus Kaluza's extra
dimension might well exist, but be impossible to detect because it is closed
(circular) and rolled up to a very small circumference. In spite of
these bizarre overtones, it seems probable that in future a "theory of everything" will make use of the idea of unseen higher dimensions."
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"Although nature manifests four distinct forces, physicists believe that
each may be part of a smaller number of more primitive forces. At high energy, the electromagnetic and weak forces appear to merge into a single "electroweak" force. Some "grand unified theories" suggest that a further amalgamation takes place between the electroweak and strong forces at as yet unattained energies. The most ambitious unification schemes envisage an amalgamation of all four forces into a single "superforce" at ultra-high levels of energy."


"The real burden in the next three centuries will not be the development of fancy mathematics, but the experimental testing of these ambitious theories. All current thinking about total unification assumes that the effects of linking all the forces and particles together will only become manifest at energies that are some trillion times greater than those currently attainable in particle accelerators. Probably we shall never reach such energies directly" ( A Theory of Everything" Volume 21 of "The World of Science)
 
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