Should Churches be forced to accomodate for homosexual weddings?

[JakeStarkey]

What percentage of elves were molested by fake santa clauses ?

Your numbers are bullshit. Get over it.

If that's what you believe than I would like to see you prove it .
Your simple minded drive by comments prove nothing other than your ignorance of reality.


Put Up or Shut Up[/SIZE][/B]

The assertion, Greenbean, is yours, and you have failed to prove it.

NYC does not have to disprove your assertion.

 

[Seawytch]

Another far left myth being promoted so the hate for the church can flow and be justified by those who only want to punish.

What is the "myth" you refer to? The struggle for gay and lesbian civil rights and the right to civilly marry has nothing to do with the church or religion. They are not related in any way, shape or form.

Gays have always had equal access to religious marriage. We can be religiously married by any church that will marry us, just like everyone else. It's the legal, civil marriage we care about having equal access to because that's the one many are denied.

So, do you feel religions should be forced to perform gay marriages?


Sent from my iPad using an Android.

By the government, no. By public opinion, yes.

 

[Seawytch]

Your numbers are bullshit. Get over it.

If that's what you believe than I would like to see you prove it .
Your simple minded drive by comments prove nothing other than your ignorance of reality.


Put Up or Shut Up[/SIZE][/B]

The assertion, Greenbean, is yours, and you have failed to prove it.

NYC does not have to disprove your assertion.

Not only that, I disproved it already. Actually, I didn't, social science did a long time ago. It's only desperate homophobes in the last gasps of their fight against equality that still cling to it.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The clown who wrote "because I don't have the time at the moment to scour through the articles and tear them apart" does not understand the OP.

It is about churches having to perform LGBT marriages, not whether he can tear any argument up: he can't.

Larry Craig and he could not find their way out of a men's room together.

 

[bripat9643]

Your numbers are bullshit. Get over it.

Of course they are because Green Bean isn't interested in knowing the actual facts he's just interested in painting gays as child molesters. Tiresome canard of homophobes.

He doesn't understand that men that molest boys are not gay, but pedophiles.

According to Dr. Fred Berlin, a Johns Hopkins University professor who founded the National Institute for the Study, Prevention and Treatment of Sexual Trauma in Baltimore, Md., pedophilia is a distinct sexual orientation marked by persistent, sometimes exclusive, attraction to prepubescent children. ​

Pedophiles are attracted to children. That they are children matters more than their gender. The sex of victim has more to do with access .

This is from a study by John Jay University commissioned after the Catholic priest sex abuse scandal.

"What we are suggesting is that the idea of sexual identity be separated from the problem of sexual abuse. At this point, we do not find a connection between homosexual identity and the increased likelihood of subsequent abuse from the data that we have right now."​

Very Good SeaWytch - you really put the old thinking cap on for that one - just hope it isn't too tight.

The papers you cited - which I am somewhat familiar with, present one theory - and a semi-plausible one at that . The preposition being that somehow Males who molest other males should not be considered honosexual even though those males predominantly and exclusively attack males [under age] because it makes all Gays look bad ... correct me if I'm wrong - because I don't have the time at the moment to scour through the articles and tear them apart - I'll be back a tad later to check on your progress . Regards

PS: Regarding your other post that followed that - kindly cease and desist your Racist Tripe - Attempting to link African Americans to your silly little sexual agenda - You're a Racist

I've seen this idea before, and it's utter bullshit. You're right, the only basis for it is the fact that gays don't want it known that so many of them are child molesters.

 

[NLT]

If that's what you believe than I would like to see you prove it .
Your simple minded drive by comments prove nothing other than your ignorance of reality.


Put Up or Shut Up[/SIZE][/B]

The assertion, Greenbean, is yours, and you have failed to prove it.

NYC does not have to disprove your assertion.

Not only that, I disproved it already. Actually, I didn't, social science did a long time ago. It's only desperate homophobes in the last gasps of their fight against equality that still cling to it.

I will pay for a one way trip to uganda for you

 

[bripat9643]

Once again, what percentage of molested girls were molested by homosexual men?

What percentage of elves were molested by fake santa clauses ?

Your numbers are bullshit. Get over it.

Why would homosexual men molest girls? His numbers are quite accurate. However, your bullshit theory about child molestation is the result of propaganda, not science.

 

[bripat9643]

If that's what you believe than I would like to see you prove it .
Your simple minded drive by comments prove nothing other than your ignorance of reality.


Put Up or Shut Up[/SIZE][/B]

The assertion, Greenbean, is yours, and you have failed to prove it.

NYC does not have to disprove your assertion.

Not only that, I disproved it already. Actually, I didn't, social science did a long time ago. It's only desperate homophobes in the last gasps of their fight against equality that still cling to it.

You haven't disproved jack shit. All you did is post some bullshit homo propaganda.

 

[bripat9643]

What percentage of elves were molested by fake santa clauses ?

Your numbers are bullshit. Get over it.

Of course they are because Green Bean isn't interested in knowing the actual facts he's just interested in painting gays as child molesters. Tiresome canard of homophobes.

He doesn't understand that men that molest boys are not gay, but pedophiles.

According to Dr. Fred Berlin, a Johns Hopkins University professor who founded the National Institute for the Study, Prevention and Treatment of Sexual Trauma in Baltimore, Md., pedophilia is a distinct sexual orientation marked by persistent, sometimes exclusive, attraction to prepubescent children. ​

Pedophiles are attracted to children. That they are children matters more than their gender. The sex of victim has more to do with access .

This is from a study by John Jay University commissioned after the Catholic priest sex abuse scandal.

"What we are suggesting is that the idea of sexual identity be separated from the problem of sexual abuse. At this point, we do not find a connection between homosexual identity and the increased likelihood of subsequent abuse from the data that we have right now."​

That's homosexual propaganda. There isn't an iota of evidence to support it.

 

[bripat9643]

Your numbers are bullshit. Get over it.

Of course they are because Green Bean isn't interested in knowing the actual facts he's just interested in painting gays as child molesters. Tiresome canard of homophobes.

He doesn't understand that men that molest boys are not gay, but pedophiles.

According to Dr. Fred Berlin, a Johns Hopkins University professor who founded the National Institute for the Study, Prevention and Treatment of Sexual Trauma in Baltimore, Md., pedophilia is a distinct sexual orientation marked by persistent, sometimes exclusive, attraction to prepubescent children. ​

Pedophiles are attracted to children. That they are children matters more than their gender. The sex of victim has more to do with access .

This is from a study by John Jay University commissioned after the Catholic priest sex abuse scandal.

"What we are suggesting is that the idea of sexual identity be separated from the problem of sexual abuse. At this point, we do not find a connection between homosexual identity and the increased likelihood of subsequent abuse from the data that we have right now."​

Very Good SeaWytch - you really put the old thinking cap on for that one - just hope it isn't too tight.

The papers you cited - which I am somewhat familiar with, present one theory - and a semi-plausible one at that . The preposition being that somehow Males who molest other males should not be considered honosexual even though those males predominantly and exclusively attack males [under age] because it makes all Gays look bad ... correct me if I'm wrong - because I don't have the time at the moment to scour through the articles and tear them apart - I'll be back a tad later to check on your progress . Regards

PS: Regarding your other post that followed that - kindly cease and desist your Racist Tripe - Attempting to link African Americans to your silly little sexual agenda - You're a Racist

What's plausible about that theory? It seems highly implausible to me. Furthermore, there isn't a shred of proof for it.

 

[Seawytch]

Your numbers are bullshit. Get over it.

Of course they are because Green Bean isn't interested in knowing the actual facts he's just interested in painting gays as child molesters. Tiresome canard of homophobes.

He doesn't understand that men that molest boys are not gay, but pedophiles.

According to Dr. Fred Berlin, a Johns Hopkins University professor who founded the National Institute for the Study, Prevention and Treatment of Sexual Trauma in Baltimore, Md., pedophilia is a distinct sexual orientation marked by persistent, sometimes exclusive, attraction to prepubescent children. ​

Pedophiles are attracted to children. That they are children matters more than their gender. The sex of victim has more to do with access .

This is from a study by John Jay University commissioned after the Catholic priest sex abuse scandal.

"What we are suggesting is that the idea of sexual identity be separated from the problem of sexual abuse. At this point, we do not find a connection between homosexual identity and the increased likelihood of subsequent abuse from the data that we have right now."​

That's homosexual propaganda. There isn't an iota of evidence to support it.

Um, no actually, that is the evidence that supports it. Pedophiles are attracted to prepubescent children and it is about access, not gender.

Gays are no more a danger to children than anyone else on the planet. Seriously, if you really want to "tra la la" down that road, only women should be able to marry each other and have and raise children since the overwhelming majority of molesters are MEN.

 

[Seawytch]

The assertion, Greenbean, is yours, and you have failed to prove it.

NYC does not have to disprove your assertion.

Not only that, I disproved it already. Actually, I didn't, social science did a long time ago. It's only desperate homophobes in the last gasps of their fight against equality that still cling to it.

I will pay for a one way trip to uganda for you

Gosh, no thanks. Nice of you to offer. It sounds like someplace you'd be happy though. You could kill those queers to your hearts content. Happy trails.

 

[Seawytch]

I've seen this idea before, and it's utter bullshit. You're right, the only basis for it is the fact that gays don't want it known that so many of them are child molesters.

Yup...desperate homophobes and their dying last throes.

You know how there are "It Get's Better" videos? We need a new series for the 'phobes called "It Gets Worse".

 

[Kondor3]

So, have we figured out yet, that churches should not be forced to commit sinful acts, by marrying homosexuals - whom many churches consider to be unnatural, perverse, unclean, sinful and abhorrent individuals, practicing unnatural, perverse, unclean, sinful and abhorrent sexual behaviors, and manifesting an unnatural, perverse, unclean, sinful and abhorrent lifestyle - aberrations in the sight of God, Nature and Man?

 

[Kondor3]

Let us hope that the next Conservative Administration finds new and interesting and fun ways at-law to re-cast homosexuality as immoral and detrimental to society and the good working order of the Republic, in order to form the legal basis for beginning to reverse some of the insane advances that they've won in the past several years - using the law, and macro-level marketing techniques, even better than the Homosexual Mafia has - in order to beat back this latest wave of filth and perversion.

January 20, 2017 cannot arrive quickly enough.

 

[Kosh]

So far here are the high lights based on the far left comments:

1) They believe "Marriage" is a Constitutional right - Of curse it is not.

2) They believe Marriage is not connected to religion. - Marriage is a product of religion now matter how they want t spin it.

3) They believe that the churches should be forced into marrying same sex couples. So much for the whole "separation of church and state".

4) The far left is upset because the can not get to the churches money. Although it was a paranoid LBJ that banned churches from being able to donate to political campaigns in fear of losing to a Catholic.

Once again the far left does not deserve to be in power and should never be in power.

 

[bendog]

Notice how the thread went to "Oh my, the gays are gonna tell our churches what to do" to "Gays are perverts."

That's pretty much why public opinion turned the way it did. Most people don't like bullies, and it's pretty clear who's doing the bullying on this issue. Really, of all the GLBT people wanting to get married, a very small % would want anything to do with the church of Phil Robertson.

 

[GISMYS]

YES!! A ANOTHER SIGN OF THE LAST DAYS IS "churches" that deny the TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD and call evil good and good evil. WE ARE IN THOSE DAYS NOW!!!

 

[GreenBean]

Of course they are because Green Bean isn't interested in knowing the actual facts he's just interested in painting gays as child molesters. Tiresome canard of homophobes.

He doesn't understand that men that molest boys are not gay, but pedophiles.

According to Dr. Fred Berlin, a Johns Hopkins University professor who founded the National Institute for the Study, Prevention and Treatment of Sexual Trauma in Baltimore, Md., pedophilia is a distinct sexual orientation marked by persistent, sometimes exclusive, attraction to prepubescent children. ​

Pedophiles are attracted to children. That they are children matters more than their gender. The sex of victim has more to do with access .

This is from a study by John Jay University commissioned after the Catholic priest sex abuse scandal.

"What we are suggesting is that the idea of sexual identity be separated from the problem of sexual abuse. At this point, we do not find a connection between homosexual identity and the increased likelihood of subsequent abuse from the data that we have right now."​

Very Good SeaWytch - you really put the old thinking cap on for that one - just hope it isn't too tight.

The papers you cited - which I am somewhat familiar with, present one theory - and a semi-plausible one at that . The preposition being that somehow Males who molest other males should not be considered honosexual even though those males predominantly and exclusively attack males [under age] because it makes all Gays look bad ... correct me if I'm wrong - because I don't have the time at the moment to scour through the articles and tear them apart - I'll be back a tad later to check on your progress . Regards

PS: Regarding your other post that followed that - kindly cease and desist your Racist Tripe - Attempting to link African Americans to your silly little sexual agenda - You're a Racist

I've seen this idea before, and it's utter bullshit. You're right, the only basis for it is the fact that gays don't want it known that so many of them are child molesters.

I've seen this idea before, and it's utter bullshit. You're right, the only basis for it is the fact that gays don't want it known that so many of them are child molesters.

Homosexuals are overrepresented in child sex offenses: Individuals from the 1 to 3 percent of the population that is sexually attracted to the same sex are committing up to one-third of the sex crimes against children.

Some homosexual activists defend the historic connection between homosexuality and pedophilia: Such activists consider the defense of "boy-lovers" to be a legitimate gay rights issue.

A study of 457 male sex offenders against children in Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy found that "approximately one-third of these sexual offenders directed their sexual activity against males."

"The proportional prevalence of offenders against male children in this group of 457 offenders against children was 36 percent." See also, Kurt Freund, et al., "Heterosexuality, Homosexuality, and Erotic Age Preference," "Approximately one-third of these individuals had victimized boys and two-thirds had victimized girls. This finding is consistent with the proportions reported in two earlier studies,"

"Pedophilia and Heterosexuality vs. Homosexuality," Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy"

The Archives of Sexual Behavior : "

One of the most salient findings of this study is that 46 percent of homosexual men and 22 percent of homosexual women reported having been molested by a person of the same gender. This contrasts to only 7 percent of heterosexual men and 1 percent of heterosexual women reporting having been molested by a person of the same gender."

Child molestation and pedophilia occur far more commonly among homosexuals than among heterosexuals on a per capita basis, according to a new study.

 

[GreenBean]

So far here are the high lights based on the far left comments:

1) They believe "Marriage" is a Constitutional right - Of curse it is not.

2) They believe Marriage is not connected to religion. - Marriage is a product of religion now matter how they want t spin it.

3) They believe that the churches should be forced into marrying same sex couples. So much for the whole "separation of church and state".

4) The far left is upset because the can not get to the churches money. Although it was a paranoid LBJ that banned churches from being able to donate to political campaigns in fear of losing to a Catholic.

Once again the far left does not deserve to be in power and should never be in power.

4) The far left is upset because the can not get to the churches money. Although it was a paranoid LBJ that banned churches from being able to donate to political campaigns in fear of losing to a Catholic.

The same LBJ who made the statement "I'll have those ******* voting Democratic for the next 200 years" and who Bobby Kennedy blew up at with the statement "Why did you kill my Brother ?!" Yup -typical Democrat.