Should all girls on Earth be allowed to live a girly childhood if they want to?

[JakeWIlls92]

In some parts of America there is a culture like this.

We Moved Our Daughters to a New Place. There’s a Weird Culture for Women Here That’s Poisoning Them.

My Daughters Are Desperate to Be Like the Other Girls in Our New Town. The Problem Is Exactly What That Entails.

My husband and I moved ourselves and our tween and teen daughters this fall, for work. This state is known for a religion we’re not in, so I knew it would be a transition. What I didn’t expect was the crazy beauty standards and how they would impact our kids. In our previous city, there was definitely an ideal to be thin to be “cool,” but there seemed to be lots of subcultures in fashion and interests. It wasn’t super diverse, but it wasn’t all white.

In our new area, I’m often the biggest outlier in a crowd just for being more olive-toned with dark hair, as are my girls. The girls’ classmates often go to the salon with their moms for blonde hair or highlights at ages 11 and 13. Our kids are begging me for this, but I say no from a budget, care, and emotional perspective. A stunning number of other moms are rail-thin, even in pregnancy, or so many are on GLP-1s. Many have plastic surgery, more than I’ve ever met anywhere in my life. The pressure for perfection that only looks one way is beyond what I’ve ever experienced, and it trickles down. There don’t seem to be as many little subgroups of girls—there’s all this push for the same sports, the same hobbies, and the exact same “it” clothes and looks.

My girls are both begging for specific, branded, identical clothes for Christmas, and both have dropped previous hobbies, especially ones that “aren’t girly.” My older daughter has been talking a lot about her weight compared to other girls, and while I know that’s a normal teen thing, it feels harsher here. How do I help guide my girls in this dramatically different place? I want to give them what they need to feel comfortable, but I don’t know how. Where’s the line between helping them fit in versus buying into this weird monoculture that seems harmful to my (outsider) eyes?

—Puberty on Hard Mode

But in El Salvador girls have to have short ponytails.

'Edgar' haircuts, mohawks prohibited in El Salvador schools after military captain becomes education minister

Should all girls on Earth who want to live a lifestyle like the young girls of Utah be allowed to live that style of childhood if they want?

If I was a girl the thought of cutting my long beautiful hair would make me go literally crazy.

 

[braalian]

What are you even asking? Who’s preventing girls from being “girly” if they want to?

 

[frigidweirdo]

In some parts of America there is a culture like this.

We Moved Our Daughters to a New Place. There’s a Weird Culture for Women Here That’s Poisoning Them.

My Daughters Are Desperate to Be Like the Other Girls in Our New Town. The Problem Is Exactly What That Entails.

My husband and I moved ourselves and our tween and teen daughters this fall, for work. This state is known for a religion we’re not in, so I knew it would be a transition. What I didn’t expect was the crazy beauty standards and how they would impact our kids. In our previous city, there was definitely an ideal to be thin to be “cool,” but there seemed to be lots of subcultures in fashion and interests. It wasn’t super diverse, but it wasn’t all white.

In our new area, I’m often the biggest outlier in a crowd just for being more olive-toned with dark hair, as are my girls. The girls’ classmates often go to the salon with their moms for blonde hair or highlights at ages 11 and 13. Our kids are begging me for this, but I say no from a budget, care, and emotional perspective. A stunning number of other moms are rail-thin, even in pregnancy, or so many are on GLP-1s. Many have plastic surgery, more than I’ve ever met anywhere in my life. The pressure for perfection that only looks one way is beyond what I’ve ever experienced, and it trickles down. There don’t seem to be as many little subgroups of girls—there’s all this push for the same sports, the same hobbies, and the exact same “it” clothes and looks.

My girls are both begging for specific, branded, identical clothes for Christmas, and both have dropped previous hobbies, especially ones that “aren’t girly.” My older daughter has been talking a lot about her weight compared to other girls, and while I know that’s a normal teen thing, it feels harsher here. How do I help guide my girls in this dramatically different place? I want to give them what they need to feel comfortable, but I don’t know how. Where’s the line between helping them fit in versus buying into this weird monoculture that seems harmful to my (outsider) eyes?

—Puberty on Hard Mode

But in El Salvador girls have to have short ponytails.

'Edgar' haircuts, mohawks prohibited in El Salvador schools after military captain becomes education minister

Should all girls on Earth who want to live a lifestyle like the young girls of Utah be allowed to live that style of childhood if they want?

If I was a girl the thought of cutting my long beautiful hair would make me go literally crazy.

The social media age, where everyone is getting an even more warped view of the world than when it was just TV and billboards

 

[luiza]

All part of the imposed Mutant Culture .

Catch them as young as possible and then feed them in the way that Pavlov fed his lab dogs .

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

Somebody moved to SLC.

 

[Correll]

In some parts of America there is a culture like this.

We Moved Our Daughters to a New Place. There’s a Weird Culture for Women Here That’s Poisoning Them.

My Daughters Are Desperate to Be Like the Other Girls in Our New Town. The Problem Is Exactly What That Entails.

My husband and I moved ourselves and our tween and teen daughters this fall, for work. This state is known for a religion we’re not in, so I knew it would be a transition. What I didn’t expect was the crazy beauty standards and how they would impact our kids. In our previous city, there was definitely an ideal to be thin to be “cool,” but there seemed to be lots of subcultures in fashion and interests. It wasn’t super diverse, but it wasn’t all white.

In our new area, I’m often the biggest outlier in a crowd just for being more olive-toned with dark hair, as are my girls. The girls’ classmates often go to the salon with their moms for blonde hair or highlights at ages 11 and 13. Our kids are begging me for this, but I say no from a budget, care, and emotional perspective. A stunning number of other moms are rail-thin, even in pregnancy, or so many are on GLP-1s. Many have plastic surgery, more than I’ve ever met anywhere in my life. The pressure for perfection that only looks one way is beyond what I’ve ever experienced, and it trickles down. There don’t seem to be as many little subgroups of girls—there’s all this push for the same sports, the same hobbies, and the exact same “it” clothes and looks.

My girls are both begging for specific, branded, identical clothes for Christmas, and both have dropped previous hobbies, especially ones that “aren’t girly.” My older daughter has been talking a lot about her weight compared to other girls, and while I know that’s a normal teen thing, it feels harsher here. How do I help guide my girls in this dramatically different place? I want to give them what they need to feel comfortable, but I don’t know how. Where’s the line between helping them fit in versus buying into this weird monoculture that seems harmful to my (outsider) eyes?

—Puberty on Hard Mode

But in El Salvador girls have to have short ponytails.

'Edgar' haircuts, mohawks prohibited in El Salvador schools after military captain becomes education minister

Should all girls on Earth who want to live a lifestyle like the young girls of Utah be allowed to live that style of childhood if they want?

If I was a girl the thought of cutting my long beautiful hair would make me go literally crazy.

Better than them wanting to get tatoos or grow their leg hair.


Count yourself lucky.

 

[Correll]

What are you even asking? Who’s preventing girls from being “girly” if they want to?

He gave the context and it fully explained his concerns. Why are you pretending that he did not?

 

[braalian]

He gave the context and it fully explained his concerns. Why are you pretending that he did not?

I didn’t see anything that explained how girls are being prevented from being girly if they want to

 

[Correll]

I didn’t see anything that explained how girls are being prevented from being girly if they want to

YOu understood that he doesn't like that his girls are being pressured into changing who they are, to fit in.

So, if you had time to kill, why not engage him on his actual point?

 

[braalian]

YOu understood that he doesn't like that his girls are being pressured into changing who they are, to fit in.

So, if you had time to kill, why not engage him on his actual point?

The thread title is incongruent with what he says

 

[1srelluc]

Why would they want to look like Edgar?

 

[Sparker]

Better than them wanting to get tatoos or grow their leg hair.


Count yourself lucky.

Letting body hair grow would be healthier than programmed devotion to always wearing cosmetic products, especially makeup with toxic chemicals. Avoiding cosmetics and hair removal products could be lesson 1 of fiscal responsibility.

 

[SaxonJackson]

I don't mind "girly" girls and I don't mind "tomboy" type girls as long as they realize they're girls and not wanna-be boys.

 

[Dragonlady]

Better than them wanting to get tatoos or grow their leg hair.


Count yourself lucky.

Another stupid comment from someone who clearly doesn't live in the USA.

 

[Correll]

Another stupid comment from someone who clearly doesn't live in the USA.

What you just said there was pure gaslighting. Of a retarded nature.

Why did you say something that not only wasn't true, but was so stupid that it was retarded?

I was talkign to a lefty yesterday, and he was pushing the idea that Trump was not being diplomatic with Europe and undermining our alliances.

It took me a while to understand my own thinking on the matter,

but I eventually realized, that my interactions, personal, and what I have witnessed though media,


pretty much everyone to the left of Mitt Romney,


seems to be implacable.

NOthing we say or do matters, no matter what you hate us and are out to destroy us.

The simplest, smallest thing, such as defending some girly girls, and you have to be a complete asshole about it.


So, yeah. There is no real room for compromise, no working together.

You people are out for blood, to destroy us.


And we need to remember that. And respond accordingly.