Shooting at church stopped by armed guard....but, I thought arming people was bad?

[Donald H]

The days of a 36 year old pummeling a 64 year old who said the wrong thing or looked at his wife wrong are over

Yes, we can agree on that at least! If you don't have a gun you keep your mouth shut in America.

Because: M14Shooter says it best!

 

[Failzero]

Yes, we can agree on that at least! If you don't have a gun you keep your mouth shut in America.

Because: M14Shooter says it best!

If you have a Gun a younger more fit Asshole is not gonna curbstomp you or break an orbital bone and blind you in one eye and give you a serious concussion that gets misdiagnosed as a brain bleed .

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

An armed society is a polite society

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If I remember right, that quote comes from Lazarus Long?


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[Failzero]

Yes, we can agree on that at least! If you don't have a gun you keep your mouth shut in America.

Because: M14Shooter says it best!

If you don’t have a gun you think twice about pummeling the nondescript victim lookin dude because he might not be trained in defusing situations and he could mag dump you & your backup without hesitation

 

[Failzero]

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If I remember right, that quote comes from Lazarus Long?


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I thought it was Huey Long

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

I thought it was Huey Long

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It's most often attributed to Robert Heinlein, but I thought I read Lazarus Long saying that. Been a long time.

Lazarus was always well armed.


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[the watcher]

What's your solution?

Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Maybe instead of the collection plate, a plate full of small purse size loaded handguns so those who didn't remember to bring their own, will be safe?

So, you have no logical solution. We already knew that.

 

[Failzero]

So, you have no logical solution. We already knew that.

Allow parishioners who have carry permits to sign up to be rotational security ( and have them cover Entrances / Exits and even do parking lot / property sweeps …

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Allow parishioners who have carry permits to sign up to be rotational security ( and have them cover Entrances / Exits and even do parking lot / property sweeps …

Allow concealed carry. The church me and my ol' lady go to have a don't ask, don't tell policy. They also have perimeter security. The preacher man was infantry in Vietnam. He understands "defense in depth".

 

[2aguy]

Well it seems from the article like it was stopped by the guy in the pick up who ran over him, but whatever.

No.....that slowed him down allowing the armed guard to get there and shoot him...

From the original article...

"He was run over by one of our members who saw this happening when he was coming into church," Kelly said, which gave security time to fire back.

 

[JGalt]

What's your solution?

You shouldn't even have to ask. His solution is "No guns."

 

[Natural Citizen]

Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.

I was gonna post that song in one of the threads where it came to mind the other day. Heh heh. Ended up not...

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Allow parishioners who have carry permits to sign up to be rotational security ( and have them cover Entrances / Exits and even do parking lot / property sweeps …

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At my church, ushers stand at the door and most of them look like the carrying type.

A few times, a man has entered the Mass and sat in the first pews. My priest is not fazed at all, even though the man appears to be disheveled and possibly under the influence. He's obviously not a Catholic because he never receives Holy Communion, and does not seem to know the Mass at all.

God Bless our priest who grasps his hand at the end of Mass and invites him to come back. I have to trust Father's intuitive sense of the man.


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[Failzero]

When I go to Temple there are a minimum of two CCW holders attending and watchin the only way in ( with occasional trip out to look parking lot over )

 

[2aguy]

The armed citizens who made up the security guards are not police, or military.......

Trombley and other safety team members, all average citizens with no police or military experience, have undergone extensive training in the event they encounter an active shooter. He says Sunday's nightmare underscores a harsh reality.

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[2aguy]

Just a thought that I'll throw out there. Why not come up with a system to reduce the number of crazies with guns.

We already have that.......but we know that crazies can get guns and other weapons.....that is why we have the 2nd Amendment.......we also have the 2nd Amendment because governments murder far more innocent people than crazies and criminals do....

 

[Failzero]

We already have that.......but we know that crazies can get guns and other weapons.....that is why we have the 2nd Amendment.......we also have the 2nd Amendment because governments murder far more innocent people than crazies and criminals do....

But still it’s a good thing to take guns from Probibited persons

 

[M14 Shooter]

But still it’s a good thing to take guns from Probibited persons

Which we do, every time we find such a person with a gun.

 

[Failzero]

Which we do, every time we fine such a person with a gun.

Especially in ICE operations ?