She waited five years to get diagnosed with Alzheimer’s. Canada is falling behind on supporting people with dementia, new report finds

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Police States are expensive.

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Phyllis Fehr waited five years to get diagnosed with Alzheimer’s disease.
When that day finally came, she remembers how her doctor looked past her, didn’t speak to her, and told her husband “Bring her back when she can’t dress herself.”

Speaking from her home in Hamilton, Fehr recalled that moment.
“It’s very dehumanizing,” Fehr said.

“You feel like ‘Oh my God, maybe I am worse than I think I am. Maybe I can’t make decisions … it makes you question absolutely anything and everything that happens.”
It’s an experience that is all too common for people with dementia in Canada, who are often left to fend for themselves and are forced to navigate a fragmented pathway to treatment and care, according to a new report by the Brainwell Institute. Canada is falling behind other countries in supporting people with dementia, from prevention to diagnosis to end-of-life care, says the report, called “Mind the Gap — Closing the Care Divide for Canadians with Dementia.”
Canada was the last country in the G7 to release a national dementia strategy, in 2019 and the average wait time, from the onset of symptoms to receiving a formal diagnosis, is 21 to 28 months — among the longest in the G7. In contrast, the average wait time for a cancer, heart disease or diabetes diagnosis is measured in days or weeks, the report says.

One of the overarching issues is that there’s no co-ordinated system for dementia care in Canada, forcing patients and caregivers to steer through a “confusing maze of waitlists, untrained providers and scattered services,” the report says.
“The physicians and the system itself are not trained to recognize what these symptoms mean and how to pursue a diagnosis for it,” said Saskia Sivananthan, a neuroscientist who co-authored the report and co-founded the Brainwell Institute.
Patients and families with young-onset dementia often face additional stigma, skepticism and reluctance to diagnose from doctors, causing them to go through long wait-lists and a revolving door of specialists as their condition deteriorates. Part of this is because dementia is still often seen as an “older person’s disease,” Sivananthan said.

“People are really left to figure things out for themselves,” Sivananthan said. “And that’s not how a system should be set up for a disease like this.”
The stakes are high. Dementia is one of the top 10 leading causes of death in Canada, and with an aging population, the number of Canadians living with dementia is expected to rise from 770,000 to nearly one million in five years. Dementia is a group of symptoms caused by various underlying conditions, marked by cognitive decline, with Alzheimer’s disease being the most common.
 
Police States are expensive.

Be careful who you trust America...


Phyllis Fehr waited five years to get diagnosed with Alzheimer’s disease.
When that day finally came, she remembers how her doctor looked past her, didn’t speak to her, and told her husband “Bring her back when she can’t dress herself.”

Speaking from her home in Hamilton, Fehr recalled that moment.
“It’s very dehumanizing,” Fehr said.

“You feel like ‘Oh my God, maybe I am worse than I think I am. Maybe I can’t make decisions … it makes you question absolutely anything and everything that happens.”
It’s an experience that is all too common for people with dementia in Canada, who are often left to fend for themselves and are forced to navigate a fragmented pathway to treatment and care, according to a new report by the Brainwell Institute. Canada is falling behind other countries in supporting people with dementia, from prevention to diagnosis to end-of-life care, says the report, called “Mind the Gap — Closing the Care Divide for Canadians with Dementia.”
Canada was the last country in the G7 to release a national dementia strategy, in 2019 and the average wait time, from the onset of symptoms to receiving a formal diagnosis, is 21 to 28 months — among the longest in the G7. In contrast, the average wait time for a cancer, heart disease or diabetes diagnosis is measured in days or weeks, the report says.

One of the overarching issues is that there’s no co-ordinated system for dementia care in Canada, forcing patients and caregivers to steer through a “confusing maze of waitlists, untrained providers and scattered services,” the report says.
“The physicians and the system itself are not trained to recognize what these symptoms mean and how to pursue a diagnosis for it,” said Saskia Sivananthan, a neuroscientist who co-authored the report and co-founded the Brainwell Institute.
Patients and families with young-onset dementia often face additional stigma, skepticism and reluctance to diagnose from doctors, causing them to go through long wait-lists and a revolving door of specialists as their condition deteriorates. Part of this is because dementia is still often seen as an “older person’s disease,” Sivananthan said.

“People are really left to figure things out for themselves,” Sivananthan said. “And that’s not how a system should be set up for a disease like this.”
The stakes are high. Dementia is one of the top 10 leading causes of death in Canada, and with an aging population, the number of Canadians living with dementia is expected to rise from 770,000 to nearly one million in five years. Dementia is a group of symptoms caused by various underlying conditions, marked by cognitive decline, with Alzheimer’s disease being the most common.

Ah yes, you're daily "Canada is the worst nation ever thread"00.

Except that this report says nothing of the kind. Nor does it say that Canadians cannot get care, as you suggest. What it says is that we need a better system of diagnosis and treatment - similar to the ones we have for Cancer.


Cancer treatment is a real success story in Canada, but it didn't happen in a vaccuum. What they're proposing, is a support system similar to the Canadian Cancer Society. I have had friends with Cancer being surrounded by the CCS with rides to chemo, assistance in the home, help with wigs for hair loss, and multiple other services to assist cancer patients and their caregivers.

Instead of the gloom and doom on your post, I read the report and saw a movement to improve the health, treatments and supports, for those who suffer from dementia, and other memory related illnesses.

"Canada transformed cancer and stroke care by creating strong national coordinating bodies—we must do the same for dementia."
 
Police States are expensive.

Be careful who you trust America...


Phyllis Fehr waited five years to get diagnosed with Alzheimer’s disease.
When that day finally came, she remembers how her doctor looked past her, didn’t speak to her, and told her husband “Bring her back when she can’t dress herself.”

Speaking from her home in Hamilton, Fehr recalled that moment.
“It’s very dehumanizing,” Fehr said.

“You feel like ‘Oh my God, maybe I am worse than I think I am. Maybe I can’t make decisions … it makes you question absolutely anything and everything that happens.”
It’s an experience that is all too common for people with dementia in Canada, who are often left to fend for themselves and are forced to navigate a fragmented pathway to treatment and care, according to a new report by the Brainwell Institute. Canada is falling behind other countries in supporting people with dementia, from prevention to diagnosis to end-of-life care, says the report, called “Mind the Gap — Closing the Care Divide for Canadians with Dementia.”
Canada was the last country in the G7 to release a national dementia strategy, in 2019 and the average wait time, from the onset of symptoms to receiving a formal diagnosis, is 21 to 28 months — among the longest in the G7. In contrast, the average wait time for a cancer, heart disease or diabetes diagnosis is measured in days or weeks, the report says.

One of the overarching issues is that there’s no co-ordinated system for dementia care in Canada, forcing patients and caregivers to steer through a “confusing maze of waitlists, untrained providers and scattered services,” the report says.
“The physicians and the system itself are not trained to recognize what these symptoms mean and how to pursue a diagnosis for it,” said Saskia Sivananthan, a neuroscientist who co-authored the report and co-founded the Brainwell Institute.
Patients and families with young-onset dementia often face additional stigma, skepticism and reluctance to diagnose from doctors, causing them to go through long wait-lists and a revolving door of specialists as their condition deteriorates. Part of this is because dementia is still often seen as an “older person’s disease,” Sivananthan said.

“People are really left to figure things out for themselves,” Sivananthan said. “And that’s not how a system should be set up for a disease like this.”
The stakes are high. Dementia is one of the top 10 leading causes of death in Canada, and with an aging population, the number of Canadians living with dementia is expected to rise from 770,000 to nearly one million in five years. Dementia is a group of symptoms caused by various underlying conditions, marked by cognitive decline, with Alzheimer’s disease being the most common.

The burden of care should, as traditionally, rest with the family. There's always this increasing expectation that the government has to take on everyone's care needs.
 
Police States are expensive.

Be careful who you trust America...


Phyllis Fehr waited five years to get diagnosed with Alzheimer’s disease.
When that day finally came, she remembers how her doctor looked past her, didn’t speak to her, and told her husband “Bring her back when she can’t dress herself.”

Speaking from her home in Hamilton, Fehr recalled that moment.
“It’s very dehumanizing,” Fehr said.

“You feel like ‘Oh my God, maybe I am worse than I think I am. Maybe I can’t make decisions … it makes you question absolutely anything and everything that happens.”
It’s an experience that is all too common for people with dementia in Canada, who are often left to fend for themselves and are forced to navigate a fragmented pathway to treatment and care, according to a new report by the Brainwell Institute. Canada is falling behind other countries in supporting people with dementia, from prevention to diagnosis to end-of-life care, says the report, called “Mind the Gap — Closing the Care Divide for Canadians with Dementia.”
Canada was the last country in the G7 to release a national dementia strategy, in 2019 and the average wait time, from the onset of symptoms to receiving a formal diagnosis, is 21 to 28 months — among the longest in the G7. In contrast, the average wait time for a cancer, heart disease or diabetes diagnosis is measured in days or weeks, the report says.

One of the overarching issues is that there’s no co-ordinated system for dementia care in Canada, forcing patients and caregivers to steer through a “confusing maze of waitlists, untrained providers and scattered services,” the report says.
“The physicians and the system itself are not trained to recognize what these symptoms mean and how to pursue a diagnosis for it,” said Saskia Sivananthan, a neuroscientist who co-authored the report and co-founded the Brainwell Institute.
Patients and families with young-onset dementia often face additional stigma, skepticism and reluctance to diagnose from doctors, causing them to go through long wait-lists and a revolving door of specialists as their condition deteriorates. Part of this is because dementia is still often seen as an “older person’s disease,” Sivananthan said.

“People are really left to figure things out for themselves,” Sivananthan said. “And that’s not how a system should be set up for a disease like this.”
The stakes are high. Dementia is one of the top 10 leading causes of death in Canada, and with an aging population, the number of Canadians living with dementia is expected to rise from 770,000 to nearly one million in five years. Dementia is a group of symptoms caused by various underlying conditions, marked by cognitive decline, with Alzheimer’s disease being the most common.
Your failures are your own.

The Canadian government did not cause the problems in your life. That’s a ridiculous victim-fantasy
 
Your failures are your own.

The Canadian government did not cause the problems in your life. That’s a ridiculous victim-fantasy
You have no idea how unaccountable, predatory systems works do you? Americans used to be the leaders of civil liberties where analysis of systems was your hallmark. It still is, but not with the layperson I suppose, many who are biased for multiple reasons. Do you know the false flag operatiions the Germans used as a pretext for invading Poland and starting WWII on Sept 1st, 1939? Now imagine covert kids using similar strategies to do the same against kids? I was there, I know what was done.and I saw the worst kids.ALL become.cops. It's a game of deceptive.charades by nefarious lowlifes and sons of cops.who created false narratives so that they could have a career. They've destroyed our economy.and reputation to such a degree that even the E.U isnt interested in what we represent, they have many more.millions ofnpeople.than us, yet, they run a huge.$20B trwde surplus with Canada. I dont know whether to feel sorry for or envy Americans. You dont clearly understand how some.nations work tthough. More and more Americans do however and this is vital.if we are.ever going to change. Canada, lead by Ontario; is unequivocallly a Police State of the worst kind. Evil men working for evil agencies and then praying that foreign governments don't lesrn the truth or use it against them.
 
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You have no idea how unaccountable, predatory systems works do you? Americans used to be the lewders of civil liberties where analysis of systems was your hallmark. It still is, but not with the layperson I suppose, many who are biased for multiple reasons. Do you know the false flag operatiions the Germans used as a pretext for.invading Poland and starting WWII on Sept 1st, 1939? Now imagine covert kids using similar strategies to do thensame against kids? I was there, I know what was done, it's a game of charades by nefarious lowlifes and sons of cops.who created false.narratives so that they could have a career. They've destroyed or economy.and reputation to such a degree that even the E.U isnt interested in what we represent. I dont know whether to feel sorry for or envy Americans. You dont understand how some.nations work tthough. More and more Americans do however and this is vital.if we are.ever going to change. Canada, lead by Ontaeio; is unequivocallly a Police State.
Canada’s Canada. It’s not a police state. Stop being ridiculous
 
Canada’s Canada. It’s not a police state. Stop being ridiculous
Again, you have no clue. Do you know how massive these budgets have grown, from municipaltieis to federal agencies withnlittle to no oversight? Do you believe police states only exist when you see uniformed officers on the streets? Do your research on the East German system lead by the Stasi and they were far more transparent than Canada by force after the wall came down. Research the lives of citizens destroyed, the spying being done by family members, husbands and wives, neighbours. THIS is the Canadian system and your biggest agencies know this. In my case theybprotected their own who abused me as a kid...sick puppies. If you moved to Toronto or Ottawa today you would be living in the most covert-laden cities in the West. There is a.reason why Americans dont move to Canada permanently as vice versa, your Constitution doesnt exist elsewhere and isnt followed so closely which is why you attrsct oir best talent and have since NAFTA. No nation that violates citizens rights for decades is your ally. You should start reading your own year end State Department Human Rights reports, it might provide a glimmer of information for you to at least consider though it is far from exhaustive. By the way, American corporations operating in Canada are key targets for covert agents. You are being played by a nation thst operates more like Russia and the old NKVD than it does America.
 
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So why do they tax the hell out of them?

For starters, nobody is "taxing the hell" out of Canadians. We pay slightly higher income tax rates than you do (3%), but we don't have to pay out $12,000 per person for health care insurance, either as an employer benefit, or out of our own pockets, after taxes.

"Canada's top federal rate is 33% while the US federal rate reaches 37%, but when you add provincial taxes, Canadians typically pay 40-53% combined rates versus 37-50% in the US."

Many people, and I include members of my own family, refuse to take their elders to the doctor when they show signs of dementia. My MIL being a case in point. She had dementia, and she suffered with it. Both she and her husband had a morbid fear of ending up in a nursing home.

Firstly, she refused to acknowledge there was anything wrong with her. She did know there was something wrong, and in her lucid moments she would say so, but to say she was terrified of ending up in care would be an understatement. My FIL loved her dearly, and he feared if she was diagnosed, he would be forced to put in a home. So they said and did nothing to help her.

She was often paranoid and delusional. She thought that her children were trying to steal the house out from under them, drove everyone away. And she suffered for lack of care, or treatment.

She died of cancer.
 
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