Service employees outraged customers are refusing to raise their tips

[1srelluc]

I consider myself a pretty good tipper but I'm curious as to the "why"?

Why should I be tipping even more? It's starting to get insulting to the customer.

 

[pknopp]

Sounds to me like tips haven't changed but the percentage of the bill has changed. Bill was $30 and someone left $5. Now it's $45 and people are still leaving $5.

On top of that they are likely counting non tips on bills that were never tipped in the past. Like at fast food places.

 

[1srelluc]

Sounds to me like tips haven't changed but the percentage of the bill has changed. Bill was $30 and someone left $5. Now it's $45 and people are still leaving $5.

On top of that they are likely counting non tips on bills that were never tipped in the past. Like at fast food places.

It's starting to get really annoying.

I order out, drive to get it, they push your order across the counter to you.

You go to pay and the first thing you see is a tip screen....Aw fuck no, ain't happening.

 

[mudwhistle]

Sounds to me like tips haven't changed but the percentage of the bill has changed. Bill was $30 and someone left $5. Now it's $45 and people are still leaving $5.

On top of that they are likely counting non tips on bills that were never tipped in the past. Like at fast food places.

Food servers count on tips for their income.

Most of them are making less than minimum-wage.

But I don't eat out anymore, so it's not an issue.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

I consider myself a pretty good tipper but I'm curious as to the "why"?

Why should I be tipping even more? It's starting to get insulting to the customer.

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Tipping 30%?!!!!

Somebody needs to go back to sleep until their ridiculous dream is over.

I might tip 30% if the service is SPECTACULAR, and the service people I've seen lately deserve between 10% and the standard 20%, when they deserve any tip at all.


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[lg325]

10% is the max I will give and only for good service. Most servers make more than there customers if you count tips and their regular wage.

 

[rightwinger]

For most of my life, you tipped servers 15 percent and maybe 20 for great service
Now, 20 percent is the norm for average service

The cost of restaurant food is up around 40 percent which means that even a 15 percent tip is a big increase

Rather than look at percent, look at how much cash you are now expected to tip

I used to take my wife out to eat and the bill would be around $70. Tip at 15 percent would be $10.50

Now that same restaurant costs $100 and I am expected to tip 20 percent. that means a $20 tip

Servers are still complaining

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

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Whew! Living in my small farming town, I dine out rarely, but when I do, it's my friends and fellow church members who are serving me, and they do so as if I'm a member of their family. To them, I tip generously, because their income goes back into the local economy of my town.


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[1srelluc]

But I don't eat out anymore, so it's not an issue.

Problem solved, problem staying solved.

 

[SweetSue92]

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Tipping 30%?!!!!

Somebody needs to go back to sleep until their ridiculous dream is over.

I might tip 30% if the service is SPECTACULAR, and the service people I've seen lately deserve between 10% and the standard 20%, when they deserve any tip at all.


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Yeah, 30% is ridiculous. We tip at least 20% though

 

[mudwhistle]

For most of my life, you tipped servers 15 percent and maybe 20 for great service
Now, 20 percent is the norm for average service

The cost of restaurant food is up around 40 percent which means that even a 15 percent tip is a big increase

Rather than look at percent, look at how much cash you are now expected to tip

I used to take my wife out to eat and the bill would be around $70. Tip at 15 percent would be $10.50

Now that same restaurant costs $100 and I am expected to tip 20 percent. that means a $20 tip

Servers are still complaining

I just learned how to cook.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Yeah, 30% is ridiculous. We tip at least 20% though

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Well, like I said in another post, most of my dining out is done here in the town where I live, by people I know and care about, to use to support our local economy, so I make it generous.

We go for coffee after church every Friday morning, and we just throw our bills on the counter, and serve ourselves from the coffee cart and sit at our usual table. I don't know how much a cup of coffee is at this place, but I guess that $3 includes a good tip. This is just greasy spoon drip coffee, not Starbucks fancy.


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[rightwinger]

I consider myself a pretty good tipper but I'm curious as to the "why"?

Why should I be tipping even more? It's starting to get insulting to the customer.

If you can’t afford 30 percent then you do not need to go out to eat

Do servers really want to shame away paying customers? You don’t make money off of empty tables

And yes, many people cannot afford to go out to eat. A restaurant meal is now a luxury

Even McDonalds is seeing customers staying away because their meals cost too much

 

[Crepitus]

I consider myself a pretty good tipper but I'm curious as to the "why"?

Why should I be tipping even more? It's starting to get insulting to the customer.

Yeah, I ain't tipping 30% unless something really exceptional happens.

 

[Crepitus]

It's starting to get really annoying.

I order out, drive to get it, they push your order across the counter to you.

You go to pay and the first thing you see is a tip screen....Aw fuck no, ain't happening.

Any place where I pick my own food up at the counter or window does not get a tip.

I just will not.

 

[pknopp]

Yeah, I ain't tipping 30% unless something really exceptional happens.

I ate at Bob Evans the other day. Half salad/half sandwich. $8.99. I ordered water. I left her $3.00. Over 30%. she was really hot. LOL (and because of the heavy snow the only waitress working and still did a great job).

 

[rightwinger]

Yeah, I ain't tipping 30% unless something really exceptional happens.

Maybe if they gave a Happy Ending

 

[DGS49]

Servers do not make less than Minimum Wage. The law provides a different MW to TIPPED EMPLOYEES, and it is $2.13/hr, which is why, if you do not tip for typical service, you are making an immoral choice (though it's not illegal).

Prior to the Pandemic, the "standard" tip for acceptable service was 1/7 of the bill, or 15% if you use a calculator. During the Pandemic, most "right thinking" Americans increased this to 20% because fewer people were eating out.

After the Pandemic, many people kept up with the 20%, on general principle.

But not everyone soliciting your tip is a "tipped employee" under the Fair Labor Standards Act - most conspicuously, "Barista's" at expensive coffee joints. Indeed, many people rightly feel that no tip is required if the person is not a "tipped employee," and they leave it at that. Some say, "If I have to come up and order it myself, and get it myself, NO TIP."

A few other examples of people soliciting tips who are not "tipped employees":

Hotel maids,
Amtrak porters and servers (who make AT LEAST $20/hr),
Pizza shop clerks at take-out windows.

Some restaurants have conspicuously raised their menu prices, and whether that was to raise the compensation for their employees or not, I revert back to 15% in these places.

I personally never order appetizers or alcoholic beverages in a restaurant, which immediately brands me as a cheapskate in the eyes of many servers. Fuck 'em.

 

[rightwinger]

Any place where I pick my own food up at the counter or window does not get a tip.

I just will not.

The thing is now on take out if you use a credit card, they prompt you on the tip.
Tips start at 20 percent and go to 30 percent

If you want to give less, you have to enter a different value

I used to throw spare change in the tip jar.
Now, I just skip it

 

[pknopp]

Servers do not make less than Minimum Wage. The law provides a different MW to TIPPED EMPLOYEES, and it is $2.13/hr, which is why, if you do not tip for typical service, you are making an immoral choice (though it's not illegal).

The $2.13 is the first immoral choice that was made.