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From my readings, the Emperor didn't have the power to surrender the country, until the politics that ousted the right wingers was finally effective. They still had several million men under arms in China and out of reach, along with scattered units all over SE Asia. It was a close thing, and it was indeed the bombs that gave the decisive push, saving many American lives, .....
Men who knew much better than you ever will disagreed.
Men who knew much better than you ever will disagreed.
No big loss
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...the battle for Okinawa, which killed more people than both atomic bombs did....
That’s not correct.
You wish
From my readings, the Emperor didn't have the power to surrender the country, until the politics that ousted the right wingers was finally effective. They still had several million men under arms in China and out of reach, along with scattered units all over SE Asia. It was a close thing, and it was indeed the bombs that gave the decisive push, saving many American lives, and that is what matters, not the whining sniveling traitors false revisionism. They're all a bunch of Maoist tards.
Don't forget the naval raids on the mainland Japan. Good fun.
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Did you fight in WWII?
What business is it of yours?
Afraid to answer, big mouth?
Did you fight in WWII?
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From my readings, the Emperor didn't have the power to surrender the country, until the politics that ousted the right wingers was finally effective. They still had several million men under arms in China and out of reach, along with scattered units all over SE Asia. It was a close thing, and it was indeed the bombs that gave the decisive push, saving many American lives, .....
Men who knew much better than you ever will disagreed.
I "heart" Fat Man and Little Boy!
The Japanese were trying to negotiate terms of surrender with Stalin while Harry Truman refused to negotiate and authorized the first (and hopefully last) use of nuclear weapons on human beings in history. Ironically the holdout for terms of surrender was the preservation of the life of the Emperor and that happened anyway. The funny thing is that executing German war criminals became a popular pass time in Europe after the war but MacArthur didn't seem to have the fire in his gut to hunt down Japanese war criminals when he became the de-facto emperor of Japan maybe because he avoided the tortures that his men endured after he abandoned them (under orders) and was rescued to sit out the war in safety.
From my readings, the Emperor didn't have the power to surrender the country, until the politics that ousted the right wingers was finally effective. They still had several million men under arms in China and out of reach, along with scattered units all over SE Asia. It was a close thing, and it was indeed the bombs that gave the decisive push, saving many American lives, .....
Men who knew much better than you ever will disagreed.
I "heart" Fat Man and Little Boy!
You just want to play at being a greasy little punk bitch ‘cause you think it’s ‘cute.’ FU, troll.
This is the History forum. Go play somewhere else.
From my readings, the Emperor didn't have the power to surrender the country, until the politics that ousted the right wingers was finally effective. They still had several million men under arms in China and out of reach, along with scattered units all over SE Asia. It was a close thing, and it was indeed the bombs that gave the decisive push, saving many American lives, .....
Men who knew much better than you ever will disagreed.
I "heart" Fat Man and Little Boy!
You just want to play at being a greasy little punk bitch ‘cause you think it’s ‘cute.’ FU, troll.
This is the History forum. Go play somewhere else.
... I am glad A-bombed just as we did.
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From my readings, the Emperor didn't have the power to surrender the country, until the politics that ousted the right wingers was finally effective. They still had several million men under arms in China and out of reach, along with scattered units all over SE Asia. It was a close thing, and it was indeed the bombs that gave the decisive push, saving many American lives, .....
Men who knew much better than you ever will disagreed.
I "heart" Fat Man and Little Boy!
You just want to play at being a greasy little punk bitch ‘cause you think it’s ‘cute.’ FU, troll.
This is the History forum. Go play somewhere else.
... I am glad A-bombed just as we did.
...
Why?
Men who knew much better than you ever will disagreed.
I "heart" Fat Man and Little Boy!
You just want to play at being a greasy little punk bitch ‘cause you think it’s ‘cute.’ FU, troll.
This is the History forum. Go play somewhere else.
... I am glad A-bombed just as we did.
...
Why?
It save American lives.
"Fuck Stalin and fuck Japan"....so much for let wing historical arguments. I rest my case.The Japanese were trying to negotiate terms of surrender with Stalin while Harry Truman refused to negotiate and authorized the first (and hopefully last) use of nuclear weapons on human beings in history. Ironically the holdout for terms of surrender was the preservation of the life of the Emperor and that happened anyway. The funny thing is that executing German war criminals became a popular pass time in Europe after the war but MacArthur didn't seem to have the fire in his gut to hunt down Japanese war criminals when he became the de-facto emperor of Japan maybe because he avoided the tortures that his men endured after he abandoned them (under orders) and was rescued to sit out the war in safety.
Stalin didn't even declare war on Japan until after it was already defeated, then raced to grab as much land as he could. Fuck Stalin and fuck Japan. Who thinks them surrendering to Stalin should have meant anything to to us???
lol the need to bash older Democrats is just getting more and more ludicrous; I guess the embarrassing failures of the Republicans in Europe after beating Wilson is too obvious, as was the major Depression and their callousness in that debacle of their policies and deflecting from that is a major priority now for some reason.
I "heart" Fat Man and Little Boy!
You just want to play at being a greasy little punk bitch ‘cause you think it’s ‘cute.’ FU, troll.
This is the History forum. Go play somewhere else.
... I am glad A-bombed just as we did.
...
Why?
It save American lives.
You don't know that.
You just want to play at being a greasy little punk bitch ‘cause you think it’s ‘cute.’ FU, troll.
This is the History forum. Go play somewhere else.
... I am glad A-bombed just as we did.
...
Why?
It save American lives.
You don't know that.
You don't know that it didn't.
I know it was a better option than invading the mainland./....
It save American lives.
You don't know that.
You don't know that it didn't.
I know it was a better option than invading the mainland./....
That was not the only other option.
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What did the people of Nanking think?
Again dumbass the facts prove that after 2 bombs the Army refused to surrender, they Controlled the Government. Then when the Emperor intervened and surrendered anyway the Army staged a COUP to prevent their GOD from surrendering.From my readings, the Emperor didn't have the power to surrender the country, until the politics that ousted the right wingers was finally effective. They still had several million men under arms in China and out of reach, along with scattered units all over SE Asia. It was a close thing, and it was indeed the bombs that gave the decisive push, saving many American lives, .....
Men who knew much better than you ever will disagreed.
Again dumbass the facts prove that after 2 bombs the Army refused to surrender, they Controlled the Government. Then when the Emperor intervened and surrendered anyway the Army staged a COUP to prevent their GOD from surrendering.From my readings, the Emperor didn't have the power to surrender the country, until the politics that ousted the right wingers was finally effective. They still had several million men under arms in China and out of reach, along with scattered units all over SE Asia. It was a close thing, and it was indeed the bombs that gave the decisive push, saving many American lives, .....
Men who knew much better than you ever will disagreed.
You IGNORE facts I have actual links to documents from the Japanese Government and they REFUSED to surrender even after 2 atomic bombs. And then staged a Coup to keep the Emperor from surrendering.From my readings, the Emperor didn't have the power to surrender the country, until the politics that ousted the right wingers was finally effective. They still had several million men under arms in China and out of reach, along with scattered units all over SE Asia. It was a close thing, and it was indeed the bombs that gave the decisive push, saving many American lives, .....
Men who knew much better than you ever will disagreed.
Wrong. ....
Fact.
Rubbish, as usual.
Facts are only “rubbish” to willfully ignorant fools.
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What did the people of Nanking think?
So, we dropped the atomic bombs out of revenge on behalf of China? Is that your claim?