Senator Brown to be called up?

[Immanuel]

I'm going back to bed, but just wanted to start this thread before I got beat to it.

I just learned that the newly elected Senator Scott Brown is a Lt. Colonel in the National Guard.

What is to keep the Dems from calling up his unit and shipping him off to Iraq to keep him from voting on Obamacare?

They wouldn't stoop that low... would they?

Immie

 

[maineman]

If he's not ready to deploy in service to his country, he ought not to be in the Guard.

 

[uscitizen]

Why has he not already been called up and deployed?

considering stop loss and all that.

 

[Baruch Menachem]

There is no depth they will not sink to.
but this would be counter productive.

 

[uscitizen]

So if he is called up it will be an Dem conspiracy that did it?

 

[Yurt]

i have no doubt he could still place his vote if called up. teleconference or do senate proxy rules allow his vote to go forth even if he is not there. i think they do.

that said, he is an enlisted reserve. if he gets called up, duty comes first and so does the reserves. that is how it works. don't like it, don't sign up.

 

[uscitizen]

If he was called up he could get Palin to fill in for him?

 

[maineman]

i have no doubt he could still place his vote if called up. teleconference or do senate proxy rules allow his vote to go forth even if he is not there. i think they do.

that said, he is an enlisted reserve. if he gets called up, duty comes first and so does the reserves. that is how it works. don't like it, don't sign up.

So is Immie lying when he said he was a Lt. Colonel?

 

[maineman]

i have no doubt he could still place his vote if called up. teleconference or do senate proxy rules allow his vote to go forth even if he is not there. i think they do.

that said, he is an enlisted reserve. if he gets called up, duty comes first and so does the reserves. that is how it works. don't like it, don't sign up.

I don't believe that senate rules allow proxy voting or teleconference voting.

I am almost certain that you must be present in the chamber to cast a vote. I wonder how you can "have no doubt" about that point?

 

[candycorn]

i have no doubt he could still place his vote if called up. teleconference or do senate proxy rules allow his vote to go forth even if he is not there. i think they do.

that said, he is an enlisted reserve. if he gets called up, duty comes first and so does the reserves. that is how it works. don't like it, don't sign up.

I don't believe that senate rules allow proxy voting or teleconference voting.

I am almost certain that you must be present in the chamber to cast a vote. I wonder how you can "have no doubt" about that point?

I do believe the rules state you must be there to vote.
That would be perfect though; the perfect caricature for 2010 major party politics. I'm watching the Brown victory speech right now. It looks like a White Million Man March.

 

[Zona]

I'm going back to bed, but just wanted to start this thread before I got beat to it.

I just learned that the newly elected Senator Scott Brown is a Lt. Colonel in the National Guard.

What is to keep the Dems from calling up his unit and shipping him off to Iraq to keep him from voting on Obamacare?

They wouldn't stoop that low... would they?

Immie

Better yet, would they pull a republican trick...you know....franken..

 

[Zona]

Eh, the important thing is, the bill will be signed faster now and no more liebermann!

 

[Yurt]

i have no doubt he could still place his vote if called up. teleconference or do senate proxy rules allow his vote to go forth even if he is not there. i think they do.

that said, he is an enlisted reserve. if he gets called up, duty comes first and so does the reserves. that is how it works. don't like it, don't sign up.

I don't believe that senate rules allow proxy voting or teleconference voting.

I am almost certain that you must be present in the chamber to cast a vote. I wonder how you can "have no doubt" about that point?

I do believe the rules state you must be there to vote.
That would be perfect though; the perfect caricature for 2010 major party politics. I'm watching the Brown victory speech right now. It looks like a White Million Man March.

http://www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/96-452.pdf

i suggest reading that. i don't see where it says you must be present. if you do, then the senate is not following the rules.

if you have something that states they must be there, i would like to see that. because i don't believe that happens for every vote.

 

[Immanuel]

I'm going back to bed, but just wanted to start this thread before I got beat to it.

I just learned that the newly elected Senator Scott Brown is a Lt. Colonel in the National Guard.

What is to keep the Dems from calling up his unit and shipping him off to Iraq to keep him from voting on Obamacare?

They wouldn't stoop that low... would they?

Immie

Better yet, would they pull a republican trick...you know....franken..

That would have been my first guess, but it seems even they realized this beating was just too insurmountable to attempt that.

As for calling him up, I would not be surprised if the Dems didn't pull the same trick David did on Uriah.

2nd Samuel 11

1 In the spring, at the time when kings go off to war, David sent Joab out with the king's men and the whole Israelite army. They destroyed the Ammonites and besieged Rabbah. But David remained in Jerusalem.

2 One evening David got up from his bed and walked around on the roof of the palace. From the roof he saw a woman bathing. The woman was very beautiful, 3 and David sent someone to find out about her. The man said, "Isn't this Bathsheba, the daughter of Eliam and the wife of Uriah the Hittite?" 4 Then David sent messengers to get her. She came to him, and he slept with her. (She had purified herself from her uncleanness.) Then [a] she went back home. 5 The woman conceived and sent word to David, saying, "I am pregnant."

6 So David sent this word to Joab: "Send me Uriah the Hittite." And Joab sent him to David. 7 When Uriah came to him, David asked him how Joab was, how the soldiers were and how the war was going. 8 Then David said to Uriah, "Go down to your house and wash your feet." So Uriah left the palace, and a gift from the king was sent after him. 9 But Uriah slept at the entrance to the palace with all his master's servants and did not go down to his house.

10 When David was told, "Uriah did not go home," he asked him, "Haven't you just come from a distance? Why didn't you go home?"

11 Uriah said to David, "The ark and Israel and Judah are staying in tents, and my master Joab and my lord's men are camped in the open fields. How could I go to my house to eat and drink and lie with my wife? As surely as you live, I will not do such a thing!"

12 Then David said to him, "Stay here one more day, and tomorrow I will send you back." So Uriah remained in Jerusalem that day and the next. 13 At David's invitation, he ate and drank with him, and David made him drunk. But in the evening Uriah went out to sleep on his mat among his master's servants; he did not go home.

14 In the morning David wrote a letter to Joab and sent it with Uriah. 15 In it he wrote, "Put Uriah in the front line where the fighting is fiercest. Then withdraw from him so he will be struck down and die."

16 So while Joab had the city under siege, he put Uriah at a place where he knew the strongest defenders were. 17 When the men of the city came out and fought against Joab, some of the men in David's army fell; moreover, Uriah the Hittite died.

18 Joab sent David a full account of the battle. 19 He instructed the messenger: "When you have finished giving the king this account of the battle, 20 the king's anger may flare up, and he may ask you, 'Why did you get so close to the city to fight? Didn't you know they would shoot arrows from the wall? 21 Who killed Abimelech son of Jerub-Besheth ? Didn't a woman throw an upper millstone on him from the wall, so that he died in Thebez? Why did you get so close to the wall?' If he asks you this, then say to him, 'Also, your servant Uriah the Hittite is dead.' "

22 The messenger set out, and when he arrived he told David everything Joab had sent him to say. 23 The messenger said to David, "The men overpowered us and came out against us in the open, but we drove them back to the entrance to the city gate. 24 Then the archers shot arrows at your servants from the wall, and some of the king's men died. Moreover, your servant Uriah the Hittite is dead."

25 David told the messenger, "Say this to Joab: 'Don't let this upset you; the sword devours one as well as another. Press the attack against the city and destroy it.' Say this to encourage Joab."

26 When Uriah's wife heard that her husband was dead, she mourned for him. 27 After the time of mourning was over, David had her brought to his house, and she became his wife and bore him a son. But the thing David had done displeased the LORD.

Immie

 

[Terral]

Hi Immanuel:

What is to keep the Dems from calling up his unit and shipping him off to Iraq to keep him from voting on Obamacare? ...

This is why I get fed up with STUPID (#1-10) Americans. Here is a News Flash for all the Obama lovers around here: There is not supposed to be any "ObamaCare"!!!!! This Kenyan Foreign National is supposed to be 'enforcing' the Rule Of Law!!! If Obama would do his job of enforcing the provisions of the Immigration Reform And Control Act Of 1986 (Wiki), he could create 20,000,000 jobs!!!! This guy in the White House says he is focusing on jobs (a liar), when he is doing NOTHING to deport one Illegal Alien Foreign National. Anyone harboring Illegal Aliens is guilty of A FELONY. Anyone working Illegal Aliens is guilty of A FELONY punishable by five years in prison! Anyone providing Illegal Aliens with illegal documentation is guilty of A FELONY. Lawlessness is EVERYWHERE and Illegal Aliens are killing Americans every damned day (12 by murder), so the Obamanator (murder of Americans) is guilty of all the above ...

The USA has a 'three branch' system of government and the "Legislative Branch" is responsible for originating new legislation and NOT the damned president!!!!! Obama is twisting arms on Capitol Hill and that is against our U.S. Constitution! Obama is NOT supposed to be working with Congress to make ANY new laws! In fact, Congress is supposed to be making for damned sure that Obama is enforcing laws ALREADY ON THE BOOKS.

GL,

Terral

 

[maineman]

I don't believe that senate rules allow proxy voting or teleconference voting.

I am almost certain that you must be present in the chamber to cast a vote. I wonder how you can "have no doubt" about that point?

I do believe the rules state you must be there to vote.
That would be perfect though; the perfect caricature for 2010 major party politics. I'm watching the Brown victory speech right now. It looks like a White Million Man March.

http://www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/96-452.pdf

i suggest reading that. i don't see where it says you must be present. if you do, then the senate is not following the rules.

if you have something that states they must be there, i would like to see that. because i don't believe that happens for every vote.

I suggest you reread the document. Clearly, there is NO provision for voting by proxy or voting via teleconference. Maybe you need to spend some time speaking with someone who had the intelligence to stay awake during law school.

And if you honestly think that anything as significant as health care reform would be moved with anything less than a roll call vote, you are dumber than dirt.