Senate Majority Leader Thune Publicly Offers very Reasonable "Off-ramp" to Democrats

[Seymour Flops]

The suggested offer is a vote on the subject of extending healthcare subsidies. Before he makes that offer firmly, with details, he wants to see the five to ten votes he needs in exchange in order to fund the nation.

I had said in another thread that the Senate Republicans should consider the so-called "nuclear option" of a rule-change to stop the Democrats's and "not Democrats'" filibuster of the nations funding, but only after making a very public and very reasonable offer to the Democrats.

Post in thread 'OK, enough of the DC pissing contest, it's time for good government, where are the adults? (Poll)'

Oct 9, 2025

Republicans are the majority, they need to push for a solution to end the shutdown:
1. Go nuclear and say "CRs only need 51 votes". A very wimpy solution, it just guarantees more CRs
2. Go nuclear for CRs, Appropriations, and Rescission Bills. A less wimpy solution, but it may bite them in the ass in the future.

If the democrats don't put up a suitable counter offer, just go with option #2. End the shutdown now.

Yes, very wise thinking, as far as political strategy for the GOP.

IF the GOP decides to use the nuclear option, they would be very wise to offer some kind...

• Seymour Flops

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It seems Thune is an avid reader of my posts and is following my advice. I'm honored to have helped to solve this impasse, if it works out.

 

[Crepitus]

The suggested offer is a vote on the subject of extending healthcare subsidies. Before he makes that offer firmly, with details, he wants to see the five to ten votes he needs in exchange in order to fund the nation.

I had said in another thread that the Senate Republicans should consider the so-called "nuclear option" of a rule-change to stop the Democrats's and "not Democrats'" filibuster of the nations funding, but only after making a very public and very reasonable offer to the Democrats.

Post in thread 'OK, enough of the DC pissing contest, it's time for good government, where are the adults? (Poll)'

Oct 9, 2025

Republicans are the majority, they need to push for a solution to end the shutdown:
1. Go nuclear and say "CRs only need 51 votes". A very wimpy solution, it just guarantees more CRs
2. Go nuclear for CRs, Appropriations, and Rescission Bills. A less wimpy solution, but it may bite them in the ass in the future.

If the democrats don't put up a suitable counter offer, just go with option #2. End the shutdown now.

Yes, very wise thinking, as far as political strategy for the GOP.

IF the GOP decides to use the nuclear option, they would be very wise to offer some kind...

• Seymour Flops

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It seems Thune is an avid reader of my posts and is following my advice. I'm honored to have helped to solve this impasse, if it works out.

How is that any different than what they have been saying all along?

 

[Seymour Flops]

How is that any different than what they have been saying all along?

They haven't offered to negotiate about repealing parts of the OBBB all along.

 

[jackflash]

The suggested offer is a vote on the subject of extending healthcare subsidies. Before he makes that offer firmly, with details, he wants to see the five to ten votes he needs in exchange in order to fund the nation.

I had said in another thread that the Senate Republicans should consider the so-called "nuclear option" of a rule-change to stop the Democrats's and "not Democrats'" filibuster of the nations funding, but only after making a very public and very reasonable offer to the Democrats.

Post in thread 'OK, enough of the DC pissing contest, it's time for good government, where are the adults? (Poll)'

Oct 9, 2025

Republicans are the majority, they need to push for a solution to end the shutdown:
1. Go nuclear and say "CRs only need 51 votes". A very wimpy solution, it just guarantees more CRs
2. Go nuclear for CRs, Appropriations, and Rescission Bills. A less wimpy solution, but it may bite them in the ass in the future.

If the democrats don't put up a suitable counter offer, just go with option #2. End the shutdown now.

Yes, very wise thinking, as far as political strategy for the GOP.

IF the GOP decides to use the nuclear option, they would be very wise to offer some kind...

• Seymour Flops

• 

It seems Thune is an avid reader of my posts and is following my advice. I'm honored to have helped to solve this impasse, if it works out.

The rank & file statist lefties are still operating in the "hive mentality" mode, meaning they have no capability to think or rationalize for themselves. Fortunately the DNC corporation APPEARS to be heading for a major & total implosion(envision a submarine diving past it's crushing depth) in the near future.

 

[JoeB131]

Or Republicans could just stop trying to take health care benefits away from working people.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Or Republicans could just stop trying to take health care benefits away from working people.

Should illegal border crossers who were granted "legal status" be given tax funded healthcare?

Should "working people" who refuse to work at least twenty hours per week be given tax funded healthcare?

 

[Seymour Flops]

Notice how this went over like a lead balloon, not only among Democrats and "not Democrats" on this forum, but also in the news. As far as I know, PBS is the only one who carried such an interview, and then did not follow up with Dems to see if this will be a workable compromise.

This is a shutdown for the sake of a shutdown, engineered by Chuck Schumer to keep AOC from primarying him.

To imagine our military families having to go to ******* food banks because of his political cowardice is pretty infuriating.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Here Mike Johnson theorizes that Democrats cannot end the shutdown until October 18, because of the planned "No Kings" rallies. If they let the government re-open with anything less than complete capitulation by the Republicans, they fear ANTIFA and other anti-American groups protesting at the Capitol will attack them also.

2:55:

 

[Crepitus]

They haven't offered to negotiate about repealing parts of the OBBB all along.

Bullshit. They have said "sign first, we will talk about the rest later".

 

[Seymour Flops]

Bullshit. They have said "sign first, we will talk about the rest later".

Yes, until now. That is why this is different. Or will be if the Democrats are willing to talk now.

If the Democrats are just willing to sit down with Thune and tell him which Democrats will vote for the clean CR, then he can promise them a vote on healthcare if they do. Not just talk, a vote.

If you truly believe that the overwhelming majority of Americans - including MAGA voters - want the Obamacare subsidies to be extended or made permanent, that vote should succeed easily because Republicans will fear their voters' reactions of they vote it down.

This is a clear test of what Schumer really wants. Does he want healthcare benefits to be subsidized, or does he want the shutdown to continue since "every day gets better for us," as he said:

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5547212-democrats-blamed-for-shutdown/

 

[Crepitus]

Yes, until now. That is why this is different. Or will be if the Democrats are willing to talk now.

If the Democrats are just willing to sit down with Thune and tell him which Democrats will vote for the clean CR, then he can promise them a vote on healthcare if they do. Not just talk, a vote.

If you truly believe that the overwhelming majority of Americans - including MAGA voters - want the Obamacare subsidies to be extended or made permanent, that vote should succeed easily because Republicans will fear their voters' reactions of they vote it down.

This is a clear test of what Schumer really wants. Does he want healthcare benefits to be subsidized, or does he want the shutdown to continue since "every day gets better for us," as he said:

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5547212-democrats-blamed-for-shutdown/

That is what he just said. "sign first, negotiate later". How is that diofferent?

 

[Seymour Flops]

That is what he just said. "sign first, negotiate later". How is that diofferent?

For the third time, the negotiations can come before they vote for the clean CR. The only condition is "show me the votes."

 

[JoeB131]

Should illegal border crossers who were granted "legal status" be given tax funded healthcare?

Should "working people" who refuse to work at least twenty hours per week be given tax funded healthcare?

Everyone should get health care.

It's how every other civilized country does it except ours.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Everyone should get health care.

It's how every other civilized country does it except ours.

Feel free to provide it to as many illegals as you can afford to support!

 

[Seymour Flops]

Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries looks exhausted and defeated in this interview:

 

[Seymour Flops]

Everyone should get health care.

It's how every other civilized country does it except ours.

So anyone near the Mexican or Canadian border need never worry. Just walk into the nearest civilized country and report for the free health care!

 

[Crepitus]

For the third time, the negotiations can come before they vote for the clean CR. The only condition is "show me the votes."

That's the way it has been since day one. Actually about three months before "day one".

And then there's this:

 

[JoeB131]

Feel free to provide it to as many illegals as you can afford to support!

Hey, stupid, what we do now is far more expensive than Universal Health Care.

The US spends 17% on Health Care. Most of the sensible world spends 8-11%.

 

[JoeB131]

So anyone near the Mexican or Canadian border need never worry. Just walk into the nearest civilized country and report for the free health care!

Well, first, Canada had a much better health care system than we have. They don't want to come here for health care.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Hey, stupid, what we do now is far more expensive than Universal Health Care.

The US spends 17% on Health Care. Most of the sensible world spends 8-11%.

For healthcare so high quality, that anyone who can afford to goes immediately to the United States for their medical treatments!

Socialism: so good that it's mandatory (unless you can buy your way out of it)!