Scott Walker Recall Campaign Losing Steam

[Dr.House]

I'm gonna ridicule you either way.......for not being willing to bet a ******* sig line. And...for complete lack of imagination in coming up with your nickname and avatar.

I'm trying to care how you feel, but it's just not there..

Oh well...

Maybe someday I will....

Not bad. You've more wit than your lame nickname would suggest.

I wish I could say the same for you...

Keep trying....

 

[Too Tall]

If you look at the point of the recall, you would realize that the left had a bigger hurdle to jump than prompting the recall election.

Like winning the recall, for example. Without an incident of public corruption, policies that fundementally disrupts society or suppression of valued rights(yep, I know. The "disregard of citizens right to collective bargain" is being usurped. But the left forgets that it is running up against our natural politics, the "right to survive" in terms of state finances. The left has to present another idea that balance the state budget in order to preserve collective bargaining. They have not.) The left cannot hope to win anyway.

At best, they can only use up capital with the electorate to make a political statement. Not good politics, if you ask me.

You know good and well that this was not about the budget, it was about beating back the union.

Like I posted--what ideas does the left have to balance the budget!

The right used the budget deficit to get their way, you leftist need to denonstrate another, "less menancing" path to balance the state budget. Where in the hell is it?

DO YOU HAVE such an idea? Why don't you ppropose it to us?





We are waiting!

What is the matter with Gov Walker? He could lay off several thousand teachers like Gov Cuomo did in New York. Cuomo is being called a hero for saving the state money that way.

 

[drsmith1072]

Walker knew he stepped in it on the day he took office and gave corporations and the rich a bunch of tax cuts, and then the following day declared his state broke.

C ya Walker.

He gave the tax cuts to promote job growth...you want to make it seem like Walker made the State go broke when he inherited a 3 billion dollar deficit from the Democrats...a deficit that he erased in less than two years. "C ya"? Now why would anyone not in a union want to get rid of the guy who did that?

it was a PROJECTED 3 billion dollar deficit and was only on paper until the end of 2013.

Furthermore walker's administration added to that number by removing cuts proposed by the previous adminstration, increasing the amount requested by departments ran by appointees and passing taxcuts.

I wonder what the number would have been if it was still based on the cuts and budget proposed by the previous administration before walker's adminstration reworked the numbers?

Walker’s new team revised Doyle’s report in February, estimating the shortfall at $3.6 billion for the biennium.

How did they arrive at that? Was it just a matter of reversing some of Doyle’s assumptions?

Not entirely.

Walker’s package of tax cuts for business and people with health savings accounts, added another $140 million to the projected shortfall -- that’s lost revenue to the state treasury. The cuts were approved in January shortly after he took office.

And the administration added back $1.2 billion in social service spending based on what they say is need that can’t be ignored in the Medicaid entitlement program. That was included in a memo from Budget Director Brian Hayes to the secretary of the Department of Administration, his boss.

The Walker estimate also scrapped the $800 million that Doyle’s aides had included for prospective cuts.

While in office, Doyle asked many agencies -- but not nearly all -- to freeze their budget requests at this year’s level. Those were submitted by his appointees. Under the adjustments by Walker’s appointees, those requests add up to a much larger number.

PolitiFact Wisconsin | Wisconsin state Rep. Mark Pocan says Gov. Scott Walker

It's not that hard to "erase" a deficit when it's only on paper until the end of 2013 and the numbers are inflated based on things your own administration added to it.

 

[madasheck]

Him being elected WAS Democracy.

Yes, his election was democracy. And the people seeking his recall after he has tried to put the Koch Brothers agenda in action in Wisconsin is democracy.

One does not negate the other being democracy in action.

How would you define the Demoncratic representatives fleeing the State to prevent a quorum?

It was a tactical move that couldn't forestall the Republican's illegal vote maneuver to pass the bill.

 

[Oldstyle]

Yes, his election was democracy. And the people seeking his recall after he has tried to put the Koch Brothers agenda in action in Wisconsin is democracy.

One does not negate the other being democracy in action.

How would you define the Demoncratic representatives fleeing the State to prevent a quorum?

It was a tactical move that couldn't forestall the Republican's illegal vote maneuver to pass the bill.

Oh, so leaving the State so a quorum can't be reached meets your definition of legal...yet the Republican's response to that attempt to shut down the government is illegal? That wasn't a "tactical move" Mad...that was a deliberate move to shut down Wisconsin because their side lost the election. Seeking a recall is democratic...occupying the Statehouse to prevent lawmakers from gathering and leaving the State to prevent votes is anything but...

 

[Dr.House]

Yes, his election was democracy. And the people seeking his recall after he has tried to put the Koch Brothers agenda in action in Wisconsin is democracy.

One does not negate the other being democracy in action.

How would you define the Demoncratic representatives fleeing the State to prevent a quorum?

It was a tactical move that couldn't forestall the Republican's illegal vote maneuver to pass the bill.

Of course it was, fleebagger...

The "Brave Sir Robin" ploy, eh?

Run away! Run away!

 

[madasheck]

How would you define the Demoncratic representatives fleeing the State to prevent a quorum?

It was a tactical move that couldn't forestall the Republican's illegal vote maneuver to pass the bill.

Oh, so leaving the State so a quorum can't be reached meets your definition of legal...yet the Republican's response to that attempt to shut down the government is illegal? That wasn't a "tactical move" Mad...that was a deliberate move to shut down Wisconsin because their side lost the election. Seeking a recall is democratic...occupying the Statehouse to prevent lawmakers from gathering and leaving the State to prevent votes is anything but...

Occupying the statehouse is freedom of speech. And if you argue the Democrats leaving the state is bad, then the Republicans ramming the bill through was worse. Where was the democracy without the opposing party present? There was none.