Scientists find areas of brain responsible for spirituality...

[daws101]

Yeah, because chemicals understand English.

it could be that the language is not important but the sound and arrangement, it being what we call language (English in this case) is irrelevant.

Or, it could be that you are blowing smoke out your ass.

that could also be freewill or a chemical reaction creating the illusion of freewill.
as of now there is no way to tell which is which.

 

[JimBowie1958]

edited for being off topic ,paranoid raving and bigotry...

Now it is bigotry to report true documented events?

Lol, you libtards are so ******* stupid, it is just incredible.

NO it's not jimbo your use of the info is ...

I am simp0ly referencing it, jack ass.

So now referencing antiPC data is bigotry.

You are a stupid ass.

 

[JimBowie1958]

it could be that the language is not important but the sound and arrangement, it being what we call language (English in this case) is irrelevant.

Or, it could be that you are blowing smoke out your ass.

that could also be freewill or a chemical reaction creating the illusion of freewill.
as of now there is no way to tell which is which.

Sure there is.

Anyone can sit still and focus their thoughts on different stimuli or thoughts and see for themselves that no chemical is controlling their minds.

You can freely ignore stimuli, you can act on it, you can filter some and act only on others.

It is all under YOUR control.

Free will is something you queers don't like because it makes it plain that you sodomize each other by choice, not by Nature's call.

 

[JimBowie1958]

What is amusing is that people always want to find God under the microscope ... here is the love spot .. this is the soul spot .. over there is the near death experience spot!

No need of microscope to find That Who already Lives inside all of us and beats our hearts this very instant!

We have to find It yet ....but that is another story!


ok let me I get off the soap box now

Obviously if the Ghost in the Machine model has any validity, there has to be a part of the brain that interfaces with one's soul or spirit to physically feel, think about or react to.

But these deterministic ideologues cant abide that thought and pursue a line of argument that the interface is the cause.

And that is plainly nonsense.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Okay fine. But what will be your reaction if we find that he/she "who already lives in all of us" is just the pattern of firings of certain brain cells in response to certain external stimuli?

I would ask myself who or what created these brain cells in the first place.

And you can see no chance that they evolved the functions they have?

The spirit-body interfaces in the brain may have evolved some, but that still does not make these interfaces the source of thought and decision.

 

[orogenicman]

I would ask myself who or what created these brain cells in the first place.

And you can see no chance that they evolved the functions they have?

The spirit-body interfaces in the brain may have evolved some, but that still does not make these interfaces the source of thought and decision.

I would tend to disagree, though I admit that more research is needed. And I have no doubt that when all is said and done, no religiosity will be necessary to explain it.

 

[JimBowie1958]

And you can see no chance that they evolved the functions they have?

The spirit-body interfaces in the brain may have evolved some, but that still does not make these interfaces the source of thought and decision.

I would tend to disagree, though I admit that more research is needed. And I have no doubt that when all is said and done, no religiosity will be necessary to explain it.

With all the weird things we have learned about our universe, from Quantum Mechanics, to multiple dimensions and string theory, how on Earth do you think that something resembling our concept of the soul is necessarily religious?

For all we know, the soul is some kind of quantum entanglement of the mind with a small piece of nuclear material that has an energy discharge we cannot yet measure that we think of as a soul.

Why not? Maybe if instead of calling it a souls or spirit we could call it a 'Personality Energy Matrix'; would that make it nonreligous enough for you?

roflmao

 

[orogenicman]

The spirit-body interfaces in the brain may have evolved some, but that still does not make these interfaces the source of thought and decision.

I would tend to disagree, though I admit that more research is needed. And I have no doubt that when all is said and done, no religiosity will be necessary to explain it.

With all the weird things we have learned about our universe, from Quantum Mechanics, to multiple dimensions and string theory, how on Earth do you think that something resembling our concept of the soul is necessarily religious?

For all we know, the soul is some kind of quantum entanglement of the mind with a small piece of nuclear material that has an energy discharge we cannot yet measure that we think of as a soul.

Why not? Maybe if instead of calling it a souls or spirit we could call it a 'Personality Energy Matrix'; would that make it nonreligous enough for you?

roflmao

For all we know, the concept of the soul is made up just as the concept of god is.

 

[JimBowie1958]

I would tend to disagree, though I admit that more research is needed. And I have no doubt that when all is said and done, no religiosity will be necessary to explain it.

With all the weird things we have learned about our universe, from Quantum Mechanics, to multiple dimensions and string theory, how on Earth do you think that something resembling our concept of the soul is necessarily religious?

For all we know, the soul is some kind of quantum entanglement of the mind with a small piece of nuclear material that has an energy discharge we cannot yet measure that we think of as a soul.

Why not? Maybe if instead of calling it a souls or spirit we could call it a 'Personality Energy Matrix'; would that make it nonreligous enough for you?

roflmao

For all we know, the concept of the soul is made up just as the concept of god is.

So you think that Plato and Aristotle just made the idea of a Creator up?

roflmao, no dude, it has to do with the infinite regression fallacy.

We cannot have an infinitely distant past or else we would not arrive at the present due to no beginning point, just as we cannot arrive at an infinitely distant point in the future.

They deduced from this the idea that something Created the universe, and using reason also deduced that this Creator had intelligence, designed the universe and so forth.

You atheists are so sheltered, lol.

 

[orogenicman]

With all the weird things we have learned about our universe, from Quantum Mechanics, to multiple dimensions and string theory, how on Earth do you think that something resembling our concept of the soul is necessarily religious?

For all we know, the soul is some kind of quantum entanglement of the mind with a small piece of nuclear material that has an energy discharge we cannot yet measure that we think of as a soul.

Why not? Maybe if instead of calling it a souls or spirit we could call it a 'Personality Energy Matrix'; would that make it nonreligous enough for you?

roflmao

For all we know, the concept of the soul is made up just as the concept of god is.

So you think that Plato and Aristotle just made the idea of a Creator up?

roflmao, no dude, it has to do with the infinite regression fallacy.

We cannot have an infinitely distant past or else we would not arrive at the present due to no beginning point, just as we cannot arrive at an infinitely distant point in the future.

They deduced from this the idea that something Created the universe, and using reason also deduced that this Creator had intelligence, designed the universe and so forth.

You atheists are so sheltered, lol.

Oh really? Well, I don't wrap a Bible around myself and call it a blanket.

 

[JimBowie1958]

For all we know, the concept of the soul is made up just as the concept of god is.

So you think that Plato and Aristotle just made the idea of a Creator up?

roflmao, no dude, it has to do with the infinite regression fallacy.

We cannot have an infinitely distant past or else we would not arrive at the present due to no beginning point, just as we cannot arrive at an infinitely distant point in the future.

They deduced from this the idea that something Created the universe, and using reason also deduced that this Creator had intelligence, designed the universe and so forth.

You atheists are so sheltered, lol.

Oh really? Well, I don't wrap a Bible around myself and call it a blanket.

Lol, well that is good, who does?

Seriously, you atheists act like the only Christians you have ever met were Westboro Baptists, lolol.

 

[orogenicman]

So you think that Plato and Aristotle just made the idea of a Creator up?

roflmao, no dude, it has to do with the infinite regression fallacy.

We cannot have an infinitely distant past or else we would not arrive at the present due to no beginning point, just as we cannot arrive at an infinitely distant point in the future.

They deduced from this the idea that something Created the universe, and using reason also deduced that this Creator had intelligence, designed the universe and so forth.

You atheists are so sheltered, lol.

Oh really? Well, I don't wrap a Bible around myself and call it a blanket.

Lol, well that is good, who does?

Last survey I saw, about 80% of the American population does.

Seriously, you atheists act like the only Christians you have ever met were Westboro Baptists, lolol.

Seriously, I come from a very devout family of Christians (Catholics, to be exact), with a very long family history of Catholicism (over 400 years). Fortunately, some of us have abandoned the nonsense and woke up. You?

 

[JimBowie1958]

Oh really? Well, I don't wrap a Bible around myself and call it a blanket.

Lol, well that is good, who does?

Last survey I saw, about 80% of the American population does.

It is interesting what this bad analogy says about your conception of Christian theology and science.

Apparently you think that the Baptist church and other evangelical and fundamentalist protestant churches define Christianity.

Taint so dude.

Seriously, you atheists act like the only Christians you have ever met were Westboro Baptists, lolol.

Seriously, I come from a very devout family of Christians (Catholics, to be exact), with a very long family history of Catholicism (over 400 years). Fortunately, some of us have abandoned the nonsense and woke up. You?

You do not seem to understand even the most basic things about Catholicism, so how could you possibly evaluate it as nonsense?

The Big Bang theory was developed by a Catholic priest, and priests and monks in the church make contributions to science on a regular basis. that does not fit your description at all. You are also apparently ignorant in regards to the arguments for the existence of God or else, if you are honest, you would recognize that faith in God is a rational thing to believe in, not irrational.

I don't know how you were raised or who taught you about Catholicism, but they really did a poor job of it, apparently.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

For all we know, the concept of the soul is made up just as the concept of god is.

So you think that Plato and Aristotle just made the idea of a Creator up?

roflmao, no dude, it has to do with the infinite regression fallacy.

We cannot have an infinitely distant past or else we would not arrive at the present due to no beginning point, just as we cannot arrive at an infinitely distant point in the future.

They deduced from this the idea that something Created the universe, and using reason also deduced that this Creator had intelligence, designed the universe and so forth.

You atheists are so sheltered, lol.

Oh really? Well, I don't wrap a Bible around myself and call it a blanket.

It isn't a blanket. It's a life vest. Put it on or perish. You're choice. - Jeri

 

[JimBowie1958]

So you think that Plato and Aristotle just made the idea of a Creator up?

roflmao, no dude, it has to do with the infinite regression fallacy.

We cannot have an infinitely distant past or else we would not arrive at the present due to no beginning point, just as we cannot arrive at an infinitely distant point in the future.

They deduced from this the idea that something Created the universe, and using reason also deduced that this Creator had intelligence, designed the universe and so forth.

You atheists are so sheltered, lol.

Oh really? Well, I don't wrap a Bible around myself and call it a blanket.

It isn't a blanket. It's a life vest. Put it on or perish. You're choice. - Jeri

Jeremiah, I don't think its a life vest for scientific research.

 

[pacer]

It isn't a blanket. It's a life vest. Put it on or perish. You're choice. - Jeri

The alternative is don't put it on and learn how to swim (stand on your own two feet).

 

[orogenicman]

Lol, well that is good, who does?

Last survey I saw, about 80% of the American population does.

It is interesting what this bad analogy says about your conception of Christian theology and science.

Apparently you think that the Baptist church and other evangelical and fundamentalist protestant churches define Christianity.

Taint so dude.

Please show me where I made that claim.

Seriously, you atheists act like the only Christians you have ever met were Westboro Baptists, lolol.

Seriously, I come from a very devout family of Christians (Catholics, to be exact), with a very long family history of Catholicism (over 400 years). Fortunately, some of us have abandoned the nonsense and woke up. You?

You do not seem to understand even the most basic things about Catholicism, so how could you possibly evaluate it as nonsense?

The Big Bang theory was developed by a Catholic priest, and priests and monks in the church make contributions to science on a regular basis. that does not fit your description at all. You are also apparently ignorant in regards to the arguments for the existence of God or else, if you are honest, you would recognize that faith in God is a rational thing to believe in, not irrational.

I don't know how you were raised or who taught you about Catholicism, but they really did a poor job of it, apparently.

You misunderstand. My issues with Catholicism have nothing to do with its views on science - most Catholics are, in fact, fairly scientifically literate, as my own family of scientists, engineers, doctors, and nurses aptly demonstrate.

 

[orogenicman]

So you think that Plato and Aristotle just made the idea of a Creator up?

roflmao, no dude, it has to do with the infinite regression fallacy.

We cannot have an infinitely distant past or else we would not arrive at the present due to no beginning point, just as we cannot arrive at an infinitely distant point in the future.

They deduced from this the idea that something Created the universe, and using reason also deduced that this Creator had intelligence, designed the universe and so forth.

You atheists are so sheltered, lol.

Oh really? Well, I don't wrap a Bible around myself and call it a blanket.

It isn't a blanket. It's a life vest. Put it on or perish. You're choice. - Jeri

You're substituting one analogy for another that is saying essentially the same thing. Religion is a crutch. If it helps you get through your day, that's fine by me. But if "god did it" is all the wonders of the universe boil down to for you, I don't need you in the observatory or the lab, or in the field either, because you would be a hindrance rather than a help in the march of scientific progress. Moreover, if it compels you to force your religion onto others, then we have a very serious problem.

 

[daws101]

Or, it could be that you are blowing smoke out your ass.

that could also be freewill or a chemical reaction creating the illusion of freewill.
as of now there is no way to tell which is which.

Sure there is.

Anyone can sit still and focus their thoughts on different stimuli or thoughts and see for themselves that no chemical is controlling their minds.

You can freely ignore stimuli, you can act on it, you can filter some and act only on others.

It is all under YOUR control.

Free will is something you queers don't like because it makes it plain that you sodomize each other by choice, not by Nature's call.

not really! electrochemical reaction is how the brain works "focusing" your thoughts is no proof that you are in control.
as to ignoring stimuli or reaction to it both electrochemical reactions.
you can control them to a point..but you never have absolute control...
also your homophobic false accusation indoctrination is showing...I'm not gay never have been. you on the other hand yammer about it so much I think you're covering up your own latent homosexuality....

 

[orogenicman]

Free will is something you queers don't like because it makes it plain that you sodomize each other by choice, not by Nature's call

Really? So you are saying that cows have free will?