Scientists are at it again

[bigrebnc1775]

To be so smart why do these people act so stupidly?


'Scientists falsify data to get research published and whistleblowers are bullied into keeping quiet,' claim their own colleagues

More than one in ten scientists and doctors claim to have witnessed colleagues deliberately fabricating data in order to get their research published, a new poll has revealed.
The survey of almost 2,800 experts in Britain also found six per cent knew of possible research misconduct at their own institution that has not been properly investigated.
The poll for the hugely-respected British Medical Journal (BMJ) is being presented at a meeting aimed at tackling research misconduct in the UK.

'Scientists falsify data to get research published and whistleblowers are bullied into keeping quiet,' claim their own colleagues | Mail Online

You mean people acted unethically for personal gain? OMG!!!! I can't believe it. I thought scientist were morally inalienable. Aren't they supposed to be impervious to such human fallacies? All is lost! We might as well discredit all further attempts at scientific inquiry and rely on the 'good book' for our knowledge on the physical universe.

So we are supposed to change our lifestyles on liars word? the Ice caps are going to melt remember. We've got to save the polar bear because mans carbon emissions are killing the world. Holy shit. But it's built on a lie.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Wheres Chris at?

 

[Old Rocks]

Glad to hear you state that Dr. Hansen does not falsify data.

Ahh, so there's your problem: You hear what you want to hear, reality be damned.

Now, dummy, Dr. Hansen lists his political affiliation as Republican.

 

[Old Rocks]

These shmucks that are in denial concerning everything that is not "The Way Things Oughter Be" would rather believe obese junkies and undegreed ex-TV weathermen than the tens of thousands of scientists that are working their butts off in often severe conditions to better understand what is happening in our world. The silly asses are now attempting to smear all scientists in order to bolster the nonsense that they spout.

One problem. Same as when they were insisting at the top of their voices, in spite of all their present lies concerning it, that no warming was taking place. That is, the consequences of the AGW are now happening as we post. Consequences that are being documented by the major insurance companies around the world.

 

[Old Rocks]

Wheres Chris at?

Does it matter? You have proven yourself to be an idiot without his assistance.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Wheres Chris at?

Does it matter? You have proven yourself to be an idiot without his assistance.

What the fuck bitch? Don't get all pissy because I posted information that showed your ministers of your religion are lying . So pull your damn head out of this ass and see your religion (science) it for what it is. A fraud.

 

[Old Rocks]

Now we understand that you are a dumb fuck of a redneck, willfully ignorant and a 'birfer' that even other Conservatives take to task for being an utter fool.

Since you are obviously one of those that has no concept of how science is done or published, it would be fruitless to try to get you to at least learn a little concerning the subject you are posting on.

"Not all conservatives are stupid, but most stupid people are conservative." True then, true now.

 

[dblack]

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[bigrebnc1775]

Now we understand that you are a dumb fuck of a redneck, willfully ignorant and a 'birfer' that even other Conservatives take to task for being an utter fool.

Since you are obviously one of those that has no concept of how science is done or published, it would be fruitless to try to get you to at least learn a little concerning the subject you are posting on.

"Not all conservatives are stupid, but most stupid people are conservative." True then, true now.

Argue with the source Why do scientist lie?

 

[newpolitics]

Now we understand that you are a dumb fuck of a redneck, willfully ignorant and a 'birfer' that even other Conservatives take to task for being an utter fool.

Since you are obviously one of those that has no concept of how science is done or published, it would be fruitless to try to get you to at least learn a little concerning the subject you are posting on.

"Not all conservatives are stupid, but most stupid people are conservative." True then, true now.

Argue with the source Why do scientist lie?

Same reason many people lie: money. why are scientists held to a higher moral standard than say, priests, who rape little boys?

 

[Old Rocks]

Very few scientists 'lie'. Far fewer by per centage than people in almost every otther profession. You see, a scientist has to have his work peer reviewed in order to publish his work in a credible journal. And after it is published it faces the scrutiny of other scientists in the same field. And if you screw up badly enough, your credibility is totally shot, along with your career. Ask Flieschmann and Pons about that.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Very few scientists 'lie'. Far fewer by per centage than people in almost every otther profession. You see, a scientist has to have his work peer reviewed in order to publish his work in a credible journal. And after it is published it faces the scrutiny of other scientists in the same field. And if you screw up badly enough, your credibility is totally shot, along with your career. Ask Flieschmann and Pons about that.

Do you have a source. I produced one that shows they do lie. all you have is your opinion.

 

[newpolitics]

Very few scientists 'lie'. Far fewer by per centage than people in almost every otther profession. You see, a scientist has to have his work peer reviewed in order to publish his work in a credible journal. And after it is published it faces the scrutiny of other scientists in the same field. And if you screw up badly enough, your credibility is totally shot, along with your career. Ask Flieschmann and Pons about that.

Do you have a source. I produced one that shows they do lie. all you have is your opinion.

I'm butting in on this little skirmish:

A source? This is how science works. Peer review. This is a fact and doesn't need a source. Look it up yourself. The only value a scientist has is his/her credibility. Once you lose that, your career is over. The risk of 'lying' is therefore the possibility of one's career ending, because no one will accept or look at your work after a dishonest study. Lying does not happen a lot in the scientific community. The only reason it might happen is if a greedy corporaiton or a prying government "need" certain results to happen, and so pay morally-flexible scientists to lie. Scientists seek truth, not money. You wish you to paint it a conspiratorial profession, but you are not going to get very far.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Very few scientists 'lie'. Far fewer by per centage than people in almost every otther profession. You see, a scientist has to have his work peer reviewed in order to publish his work in a credible journal. And after it is published it faces the scrutiny of other scientists in the same field. And if you screw up badly enough, your credibility is totally shot, along with your career. Ask Flieschmann and Pons about that.

Do you have a source. I produced one that shows they do lie. all you have is your opinion.

I'm butting in on this little skirmish:

A source? This is how science works. Peer review. This is a fact and doesn't need a source. Look it up yourself. The only value a scientist has is his/her credibility. Once you lose that, your career is over. The risk of 'lying' is therefore the possibility of one's career ending, because no one will accept or look at your work after a dishonest study. Lying does not happen a lot in the scientific community. The only reason it might happen is if a greedy corporaiton or a prying government "need" certain results to happen, and so pay morally-flexible scientists to lie. Scientists seek truth, not money. You wish you to paint it a conspiratorial profession, but you are not going to get very far.

You can butt in but bring something other than your opinion.

 

[newpolitics]

Do you have a source. I produced one that shows they do lie. all you have is your opinion.

I'm butting in on this little skirmish:

A source? This is how science works. Peer review. This is a fact and doesn't need a source. Look it up yourself. The only value a scientist has is his/her credibility. Once you lose that, your career is over. The risk of 'lying' is therefore the possibility of one's career ending, because no one will accept or look at your work after a dishonest study. Lying does not happen a lot in the scientific community. The only reason it might happen is if a greedy corporaiton or a prying government "need" certain results to happen, and so pay morally-flexible scientists to lie. Scientists seek truth, not money. You wish you to paint it a conspiratorial profession, but you are not going to get very far.

You can butt in but bring something other than your opinion.

What I stated isn't opinion, but the reality facing the scientific community.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I'm butting in on this little skirmish:

A source? This is how science works. Peer review. This is a fact and doesn't need a source. Look it up yourself. The only value a scientist has is his/her credibility. Once you lose that, your career is over. The risk of 'lying' is therefore the possibility of one's career ending, because no one will accept or look at your work after a dishonest study. Lying does not happen a lot in the scientific community. The only reason it might happen is if a greedy corporaiton or a prying government "need" certain results to happen, and so pay morally-flexible scientists to lie. Scientists seek truth, not money. You wish you to paint it a conspiratorial profession, but you are not going to get very far.

You can butt in but bring something other than your opinion.

What I stated isn't opinion, but the reality facing the scientific community.

All I can say is
'Scientists falsify data to get research published and whistleblowers are bullied into keeping quiet
You can give all the reviews you want but until you show me that Scientists don't falsify their data you got nothing.

 

[dblack]

Those scientists are lyin' and gettin' me pissed!

 

[rdean]

Oh those awful scientists. They should be arrested. They do nothing for the country. They are all "over educated". That's why so few are Republican because Republicans are too smart to become a "scientist".

 

[FireFly]

Today, the part of rderp will be played by daveman.



Why do you hate science? No wonder only 6% of scientists are Republicans.

Sing along to Chris / Old Rocks / Rdean song.

Herp da derp derpa derp.

A derpity derpity herpa derp derp.

Derp derp derp.

A herp derp herpity derpity derp.

 

[FireFly]

Those scientists are lyin' and gettin' me pissed!

So you believe scientist don't consistently lie?