Science and the Environment - no consensus on the matter yet - the rapidly melting Greenland ice sh

[Dante]

duh

Dr Curry is no longer a climate alarmist ya dummy.........well documented. Now says "human activity" one of many possible causes...........the global warming k00ks claim one cause only. Ghey

Double D'Oh!

Hey dummy, twas a wingnut science denying twit that introduced Curry into the back and forth.

Dante was subtly throwing it back in laughter

 

[skookerasbil]

duh

Dr Curry is no longer a climate alarmist ya dummy.........well documented. Now says "human activity" one of many possible causes...........the global warming k00ks claim one cause only. Ghey

Double D'Oh!

Hey dummy, twas a wingnut science denying twit that introduced Curry into the back and forth.

Dante was subtly throwing it back in laughter

 

[jc456]

To Dante.........

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...

not another dope who posts stupid graphs with the imbecile notion that doing so makes them credible in their arguments.

wtf r u, Clyde Crashcup?

I'm Batman

 

[jc456]

Science and the Environment - no consensus on the matter yet - the rapidly melting Greenland ice sheet

No agenda here, just Scientific evidence and a search for truth. Scientists will keep working on it until they have a consensus. You'd better believe it, because that's how science works.

In the last month, there’s been much attention to a cool patch in the North Atlantic Ocean, where record cold temperatures over the past eight months present a stark contrast to a globe that is experiencing record warmth. And although there is certainly no consensus on the matter yet, some scientists think this pattern may be a sign of one long-feared consequence of climate change — a slowing of North Atlantic ocean circulation, due to a freshening of surface waters.

The cause, goes the thinking, would be the rapidly melting Greenland ice sheet, whose large freshwater flows may weaken ocean “overturning” by reducing the density of cold surface waters (colder, salty water is denser). If cold, salty waters don’t sink in the North Atlantic and flow back southward toward Antarctica at depth, then warm surface waters won’t flow northward to take their place. The result could be a significant change to northern hemisphere climate, as less ocean-borne heat reaches higher latitudes.​

there's that word again, 'consensus' there is none in science. So nice article that really isn't about science but an agenda, since it was necessary to use the 'C' word. Funny though, thanks for the laugh.

And you are completely full of shit, jc. There is overwhelming consensus that life has evolved, is evolving, and will continue to evolve as long as there is life. There is overwhelming consensus that matter and gravity are related.

there is? More off topic replies. Why is that? there are no Science consensus, in anything.

 

[IanC]

Back to the OP. Things like the Warm Blob in the Pacific, or the cold spot in the Atlantic were not picked up very well before ARGO was launched. Did they happen in the past? Of course they did.

The difference today is that every anomaly is accompanied with wild theories as to the cause and crazy predictions as to what will happen in the future.

In the early 20's the North Atlantic warmed by 3C and the sea ice shrank so much that sailors called the coastal landmarks unrecognizable. If that happened today climate science would be in a frenzy to explain how we broke the Earth and how we were all doomed. When I read the reports I looked in the official temp records for evidence. It wasn't there. Either people who had no idea of 'global warming' were lying or ....

 

[Dante]

there are no Science consensus, in anything.

There is a consensus on the science showing the planet is warming and that humans are playing a part in it. That is all.

 

[jc456]

there are no Science consensus, in anything.

There is a consensus on the science showing the planet is warming and that humans are playing a part in it. That is all.

negative on that whole consensus thingy.

 

[Dante]

there are no Science consensus, in anything.

There is a consensus on the science showing the planet is warming and that humans are playing a part in it. That is all.

negative on that whole consensus thingy.

Doctor: You have a brain tumor

jc: I refuse to believe you. Ouch! What a headache

 

[jc456]

there are no Science consensus, in anything.

There is a consensus on the science showing the planet is warming and that humans are playing a part in it. That is all.

negative on that whole consensus thingy.

Doctor: You have a brain tumor

jc: I refuse to believe you. Ouch! What a headache

From Mr. Einstein:

"Even Albert agrees:
"He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice.
Albert Einstein""

 

[Dante]

jc456 , get your own shtick

you suck at imitation

 

[jc456]

jc456 , get your own shtick

you suck at imitation

jc says ole Dante got whipped!!

 

[Dante]

jc456 , get your own shtick

you suck at imitation

jc says ole Dante got whipped!!

jc says a lot of stupid things

true story

 

[jc456]

jc456 , get your own shtick

you suck at imitation

jc says ole Dante got whipped!!

jc says a lot of stupid things

true story

jc certainly has stated stupid things in his life, but spot on when discussing climate with Dante.

 

[Old Rocks]

OMG… Greenland’s ice sheets are melting fast

An urgent attempt to study the rate at which Greenland’s mighty ice sheets are melting has been launched by Nasa. The aim of the six-year project, calledOceans Melting Greenland (OMG), is to understand how fast the world’s warming seas are now eroding the edges of the island’s vast icecaps. Warming air temperatures are already causing considerable glacier loss there, but the factors involving the sea that laps the bases of its great ice masses, and which is also heating up, are less well understood.

Greenland contains vast reservoirs of ice which, if completely melted, would raise world sea levels by more than six metres. However, some influences on its current dramatic melting are poorly understood. Hence the decision to launch OMG, an acronym that the project leader, Joshua Willis, admits he “barely squeezed past the censors”.

The project will include a four-year programme involving the release of more than 200 robot probes from aircraft of the US National Aeronautics and Space Administration’s specialist fleet. These will measure sea water temperature and depth round the island while the elevation of its coastal glaciers will also be measured in detail. At the same time, ships, including the retired trawler MV Cape Race, will be used to make careful studies of the shape and size of the fjords that channel water from the ocean to the base of Greenland’s glaciers. The information gleaned this way “should give us a better handle on understanding the [ice] mass loss that is currently going on in Greenland,” says Willis, of Nasa’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory.

Going to be some interesting information gathered.

 

[Old Rocks]

Global warming is causing rain to melt the Greenland ice sheet | John Abraham

A new study, just published in Nature Geoscience, makes an important new contribution to our understanding of the forces at play in Greenland. Dr Samuel Doyle and an international team captured the wide-scale effects of an unusual week of warm, wet weather in late August and early September, 2011. They found that cyclonic weather led to extreme surface runoff – a combination of ice melt and rain – that overwhelmed the ice sheet’s basal drainage system. This drive a marked increase in ice flow across the entire western sector of the ice sheet that extended 140 km into the ice sheet’s interior. According to Dr. Doyle,

It wasn’t just rainfall. We saw 10 to 15% of the total annual surface melt occur in this event in late summer 2011. When this water reached the bed, the ice sheet lifted up and moved faster towards the sea.

Going to be interesting to see what the melt is in 2025.

 

[jc456]

OMG… Greenland’s ice sheets are melting fast

An urgent attempt to study the rate at which Greenland’s mighty ice sheets are melting has been launched by Nasa. The aim of the six-year project, calledOceans Melting Greenland (OMG), is to understand how fast the world’s warming seas are now eroding the edges of the island’s vast icecaps. Warming air temperatures are already causing considerable glacier loss there, but the factors involving the sea that laps the bases of its great ice masses, and which is also heating up, are less well understood.

Greenland contains vast reservoirs of ice which, if completely melted, would raise world sea levels by more than six metres. However, some influences on its current dramatic melting are poorly understood. Hence the decision to launch OMG, an acronym that the project leader, Joshua Willis, admits he “barely squeezed past the censors”.

The project will include a four-year programme involving the release of more than 200 robot probes from aircraft of the US National Aeronautics and Space Administration’s specialist fleet. These will measure sea water temperature and depth round the island while the elevation of its coastal glaciers will also be measured in detail. At the same time, ships, including the retired trawler MV Cape Race, will be used to make careful studies of the shape and size of the fjords that channel water from the ocean to the base of Greenland’s glaciers. The information gleaned this way “should give us a better handle on understanding the [ice] mass loss that is currently going on in Greenland,” says Willis, of Nasa’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory.

Going to be some interesting information gathered.

Greenland ice melting whoop Dee Doo

 

[Old Rocks]

Greenland Experiences Sudden Onset of Melt Season

After a cool spring kept Greenland’s massive ice sheet mostly solid, a (comparatively) warm late June and early July have turned half the ice sheet’s surface into liquid, well outside the range of normal for this time of year.

Despite the ice sheet’s remote location, its slushy fingers reach across the globe, influencing sea levels and how fast the Gulf Stream current moves. As temperatures rise, its influence could grow larger as major summer melt events become regular occurrence. Recent warming has already contributed to ice loss in some areas previously thought to be stable and sped the trip of some glaciers into the sea.

Persistent high pressure has been camping over Greenland since mid-June. More recently, the weather pattern driving the European heat wave, dubbed an atmospheric shruggie — ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ — by Mashable’s Andrew Freedman (and an omega block by stodgy, old weather watchers), is also responsible for continuing to help keep Greenland warmer than normal.

Now we have the 'cold blob' off the East Coast, and the 'warm blob' off the West Coast, going to be very interesting to see what this winters weather is going to be with the very strong El Nino in progress.

 

[Old Rocks]

OMG… Greenland’s ice sheets are melting fast

An urgent attempt to study the rate at which Greenland’s mighty ice sheets are melting has been launched by Nasa. The aim of the six-year project, calledOceans Melting Greenland (OMG), is to understand how fast the world’s warming seas are now eroding the edges of the island’s vast icecaps. Warming air temperatures are already causing considerable glacier loss there, but the factors involving the sea that laps the bases of its great ice masses, and which is also heating up, are less well understood.

Greenland contains vast reservoirs of ice which, if completely melted, would raise world sea levels by more than six metres. However, some influences on its current dramatic melting are poorly understood. Hence the decision to launch OMG, an acronym that the project leader, Joshua Willis, admits he “barely squeezed past the censors”.

The project will include a four-year programme involving the release of more than 200 robot probes from aircraft of the US National Aeronautics and Space Administration’s specialist fleet. These will measure sea water temperature and depth round the island while the elevation of its coastal glaciers will also be measured in detail. At the same time, ships, including the retired trawler MV Cape Race, will be used to make careful studies of the shape and size of the fjords that channel water from the ocean to the base of Greenland’s glaciers. The information gleaned this way “should give us a better handle on understanding the [ice] mass loss that is currently going on in Greenland,” says Willis, of Nasa’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory.

Going to be some interesting information gathered.

Greenland ice melting whoop Dee Doo

Well, yes, big whoop Dee Doo.

The American cities most threatened by rising sea levels

Steep cuts in greenhouse gas emissions could lessen the threat that sea level rise poses to iconic American cities during the coming centuries by more than half, according to a new study published Monday.

By contrast, if emissions were to follow a so-called "business as usual" trajectory, between 14 to 33 feet of global average sea level rise would be locked into the climate system, submerging land that is currently home to between 20 and 31 million Americans, including in more than 20 cities with populations of 100,000 or more, as well as the majority of residents in many smaller cities, the study found.

The study, published Monday in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, is the first to examine how the energy choices made in the next few decades — including at a pivotal climate summit in Paris that begins at the end of November — will affect coastal U.S. cities down to the zip code level for generations to come.

 

[jc456]

OMG… Greenland’s ice sheets are melting fast

An urgent attempt to study the rate at which Greenland’s mighty ice sheets are melting has been launched by Nasa. The aim of the six-year project, calledOceans Melting Greenland (OMG), is to understand how fast the world’s warming seas are now eroding the edges of the island’s vast icecaps. Warming air temperatures are already causing considerable glacier loss there, but the factors involving the sea that laps the bases of its great ice masses, and which is also heating up, are less well understood.

Greenland contains vast reservoirs of ice which, if completely melted, would raise world sea levels by more than six metres. However, some influences on its current dramatic melting are poorly understood. Hence the decision to launch OMG, an acronym that the project leader, Joshua Willis, admits he “barely squeezed past the censors”.

The project will include a four-year programme involving the release of more than 200 robot probes from aircraft of the US National Aeronautics and Space Administration’s specialist fleet. These will measure sea water temperature and depth round the island while the elevation of its coastal glaciers will also be measured in detail. At the same time, ships, including the retired trawler MV Cape Race, will be used to make careful studies of the shape and size of the fjords that channel water from the ocean to the base of Greenland’s glaciers. The information gleaned this way “should give us a better handle on understanding the [ice] mass loss that is currently going on in Greenland,” says Willis, of Nasa’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory.

Going to be some interesting information gathered.

Greenland ice melting whoop Dee Doo

Well, yes, big whoop Dee Doo.

The American cities most threatened by rising sea levels

Steep cuts in greenhouse gas emissions could lessen the threat that sea level rise poses to iconic American cities during the coming centuries by more than half, according to a new study published Monday.

By contrast, if emissions were to follow a so-called "business as usual" trajectory, between 14 to 33 feet of global average sea level rise would be locked into the climate system, submerging land that is currently home to between 20 and 31 million Americans, including in more than 20 cities with populations of 100,000 or more, as well as the majority of residents in many smaller cities, the study found.

The study, published Monday in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, is the first to examine how the energy choices made in the next few decades — including at a pivotal climate summit in Paris that begins at the end of November — will affect coastal U.S. cities down to the zip code level for generations to come.

I'll tell you what, you post up the current Atlantic sea level in NY and then next year post the same information one year later. Work for you? Let's see how much whoop dee doo you have. I'm tired of talk, I'd like for once to actually see some stats that back your claim. just once!!!