Russia's Unreasonable Demands for Peace Deal!

You hypocritical weirdo, if that filthy coward, Yanukovych, whom you, due to your complete lack of education about events in Ukraine, call a pro-russian puppet, had dared to use arms against the pro-nazi thugs, you would be the first to squeal like a castrated piglet about the "atrocities of the Yanukovych regime".
Of course I would, have no doubts. But similar squealing didn't stop you from supporting another your buddy, Assad. But alas, in Ukraine you made a bet on the wrong guy. And now it is your turn in squealing about neo-nazis and armed coup.
 
I am okay with Israel, thanks. At least they didn't make a laughing stock out of their Army.
No one helped the afghan Taliban, but farmers in sandals with kalashnikovs, kicked out the US army...
And no one helped them with Patriots and other modern tanks...
Only the stupidity of the american public, brought up on comic books, allows you and others like you to squeak something about the Russian army.
 
No one helped the afghan Taliban, but farmers in sandals with kalashnikovs, kicked out the US army...
And no one helped them with Patriots and other modern tanks...
Only the stupidity of the american public, brought up on comic books, allows you and others like you to squeak something about the Russian army.
Cool, but where are you numerous Su-57s, Kinzhals, T-90s, Armatas, Mi-28s that don't have analogues in the world?
 
Cool, but where are you numerous Su-57s, Kinzhals, T-90s, Armatas, Mi-28s that don't have analogues in the world?
I think they're holding it out for a real, serious war against a really formidable enemy, like the Taliban, for example. After all, they defeated the most expensive army in the world. You have to save your strength for such adversaries.
 
I think they're holding it out for a real, serious war against a really formidable enemy, like the Taliban, for example. After all, they defeated the most expensive army in the world. You have to save your strength for such adversaries.
Yeah, it would be great to see your sorry asses being kicked once again.
 
Yeah, it would be great to see your sorry asses being kicked once again.
Kicked out? You kids say darndest things. The Soviet army withdrew troops with banners raised, leaving a functional government. Which was overthrown only three years later. How the U.S. withdrew from Afghanistan we all still remember very well...
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Kicked out? You kids say darndest things. The Soviet army withdrew troops with banners raised, leaving a functional government. Which was overthrown only three years later. How the U.S. withdrew from Afghanistan we all still remember very well...
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Cool. Too bad that soon after that those banners meant nothing and were of no use.
 
Kicked out? You kids say darndest things. The Soviet army withdrew troops with banners raised, leaving a functional government. Which was overthrown only three years later.
Najib survived because he was receiving huge amounts of military and economic aid from the Soviet Union. When the USSR collapsed, the support dried up and he didn't last 4 months.
 
If Ukraine kept their word and honored Minsk, there'd be no war and the Donbass would still be a part of Ukraine.
Instead they listened to the US who only wanted to use them to weaken Russia and cares nothing about them.
Now they still don't have Crimea and still aren't in NATO.
Nuland is on tape picking Ukraine's new Gov't before the coup Graham and McCain in Ukraine in 2016 telling them "It is time for them to go on the offensive".
Ukraine, France and Germany all admitting they never planned on honoring Minsk and were just stalling to prepare for war.
Russia was the only honest actor in this and spent 8 years trying to achieve Peace, while the US and their vassal States did all they could to provoke this war, that they are now doing all they can to prolong.
 
No, it was the Ukrainian government that began fighting Russia supported separatists.
As well as Serbia have been fighting against Albanian separatists, or as China is going to fight Taiwanese separatists. What a nice double standards of the "rule-based order".
 
Cool, but where are you numerous Su-57s, Kinzhals, T-90s, Armatas, Mi-28s that don't have analogues in the world?

They are warming up. It's still a special operation, not a war, and the both sides are still keeping their best cards close to their chest.
 
As well as Serbia have been fighting against Albanian separatists, or as China is going to fight Taiwanese separatists. What a nice double standards of the "rule-based order".
Kosovo. There were three or four the UNSC resolutions that demanded to halt hostilities there and one of them condemned the Yugoslavia military for using excessive force. Another one authorized foreign troops for taking part in the conflict (though, it was passed after the bombardments started).

Taiwan. I reject Beijing's demands altogether. The two governments came to the power as a result of civil war there and have equal legitimacy.
 
They are warming up. It's still a special operation, not a war, and the both sides are still keeping their best cards close to their chest.
Cool story, bro. Be careful not to overheat them.
 
Kosovo. There were three or four the UNSC resolutions that demanded to halt hostilities there and one of them condemned the Yugoslavia military for using excessive force. Another one authorized foreign troops for taking part in the conflict (though, it was passed after the bombardments started).
Actually, Minsk agreements were also implemented by the UNSC. And anyway, Russia has the right to recognize the independence of Donbass Republics, especially taking into account the nature of Kievan regime.

Taiwan. I reject Beijing's demands altogether. The two governments came to the power as a result of civil war there and have equal legitimacy.
It's your problem. De jure, both the USA and Ukraine recognise only one government of China - the government located in Beijing. Does it mean, that there is nothing bad in the military suppression of the Taiwanese separatists?
 
Actually, Minsk agreements were also implemented by the UNSC. And anyway, Russia has the right to recognize the independence of Donbass Republics, especially taking into account the nature of Kievan regime
Yes, they were. But talking about the Minsk Accords is a senseless thing. Ukraine’s position is that they were breached by the separatists form the day one.

Russia can recognize whatever it wants. The Ukrainian government has the right to defend its territory, especially taking into account the nature of the Putin regime.


It's your problem. De jure, both the USA and Ukraine recognise only one government of China - the government located in Beijing. Does it mean, that there is nothing bad in the military suppression of the Taiwanese separatists?
The US has the Taiwan Relations Act. It doesn't contain direct security guarantees or involvement of the US military. But its military provisions can be interpreted quite widely.
 
Yes, they were. But talking about the Minsk Accords is a senseless thing. Ukraine’s position is that they were breached by the separatists form the day one.

Russia can recognize whatever it wants. The Ukrainian government has the right to defend its territory, especially taking into account the nature of the Putin regime.
Yes, Ukraine has right to defend its land, but the Russians has right to defend their people, too. What is more important? Anyway, abusive Kievan regime should not exists anymore if we want to make a justified peace.




The US has the Taiwan Relations Act. It doesn't contain direct security guarantees or involvement of the US military. But its military provisions can be interpreted quite widely.
Yes. As well as Russia-Donbass relationships were quite clear either.
And the problem with Taiwan relationships is that most of Taiwanese don't want to be another Ukrainians (and they don't want to be "defended" like Ukrainians). They are too smart for it, you know. DPP had been defeated.
 
Yes, Ukraine has right to defend its land, but the Russians has right to defend their people, too. What is more important? Anyway, abusive Kievan regime should not exists anymore if we want to make a justified peace
A justified peace will happen when Ukraine will get back all internationally recognised territories and Russia pays for all damages it will have caused.

I admit that it may take years to happen. In the meantime, I can accept a 'justified stalemate'.


Yes. As well as Russia-Donbass relationships were quite clear either.
And the problem with Taiwan relationships is that most of Taiwanese don't want to be another Ukrainians (and they don't want to be "defended" like Ukrainians). They are too smart for it, you know. DPP had been defeated
I am okay with that. Let the Taiwanese people decide their own fate.
 
A justified peace will happen when Ukraine will
get back all internationally recognised territories


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And start the tug of war between East and West all over again?

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The same tug of war that started the whole crap back in 2004 or even before that, taking into consideration that the West started planning the eastward expansion in 1991?

It doesn't matter whether Kuchma rigged the elections in 2004 or not.... What really matters is the perception of eastern Ukraine:

"From now on the other side will force the country to repeat the elections over and over... 500 times if necessary... until they get the result they want."
 

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