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There is a good side of the more intense combat (and better payments). If you have any mental problems - the enemy will kill you. If you won a battle and returned home with a small fortune - you are a rich man and you don't need a shrink either (vodka and whores are much more effective). Anyway, Russian culture and Russian society are pretty weird and chronically traumatized, and always have been. It's OK to be not OK there.
And yes, there is another reason for SMO. They just can't allow themselves to lost twenty million Russians in Ukraine.
Doubtful figures particularly the Wagner estimate .Doesn't really stop the fact that 35,000+ and 22,000 Wagner troops have died. That's pretty bad in itself. It's okay to not be okay, but then some of these will kill themselves... that's a problem for a country that's losing population and doesn't like immigration.
It's bad, yes, but, you know, there are things much worse. Like leaving twenty million of Russians under Kievan Neo-Nazi regime.Doesn't really stop the fact that 35,000+ and 22,000 Wagner troops have died. That's pretty bad in itself. It's okay to not be okay, but then some of these will kill themselves... that's a problem for a country that's losing population and doesn't like immigration.
It's bad, yes, but, you know, there are things much worse. Like leaving twenty million of Russians under Kievan Neo-Nazi regime.
So, fighting against Kievan regime, Poland, Germany or even Biden's weak USA is lesser evil from their point of view.
Some of them (like people in Crimea and Donbass) did it, and other are doing it right now. From the other hand, if Banderovci want to live in West - why they just immigrate in Canada? Banderovci want to join the West, Vatniks want to join Russia. So, the winners will get the land of Ukraine, and the losers will leave it (or will fertilize it).And these Russians under the supposed "Kievan Neo-Nazi regime" couldn't have just left the country if it were that bad?
Kievan regime is openly abusing, discriminative and oppressive. They do ban any public usage of Russian language, they do murder their political opponents, they do steal other people's property and so on.Oh, but it's not a "Neo-Nazi regime" and you know it. So what's the fucking point of your post? Fantasy? There are Neo-Nazis in the Ukraine, there are Neo-Nazis in Russia. The Neo-Nazis in the Ukraine help fight against Russia, so the Ukrainian government tolerates them.
Actually, the Russian Federation is a federation, and its regions have a significant cultural and linguistic autonomy. There are twenty six "state languages" (including Ukrainian), and the right to use freely one's own language is written in the Constitution.As for "regime", Putin is far more a "regime" than the Ukraine who's president not been in power that long.
No offense. I just explain why the Russians are fighting, how they see the situation and what can and what can't be done. For example, we can't convince Russians (living in Russia itself, Ukraine, Baltic states or even in America) that discrimination of Russians is a good thing, and, therefore, Kievan and Baltic regimes should not be seen as enemies.You want to have a discussion, talk properly, not making shit up.
Genghis Khan, Napoleon, Hitler, BidenHow many casualties are Russian citizens willing to take? Half a million? One million? WTF Russkies, put down the vodka bottle and start marching on the Kremlin!
The Bear Marches Forward on Bleeding FeetI know it's a pipe dream but who knows what a half million angry mothers could accomplish?
Maybe the new generation of Russian Mothers will be different. But who knows?The Bear Marches Forward on Bleeding Feet
Give birth to more and more patriotic sons, as Russian mothers have done throughout their country's history. That was the answer the great and victorious Field Marshall Zhukov gave to Eisenhower, who had questioned his willingness to take massive losses in order to win battles. The two greatest were at Khalkhin Gol in Mongolia against the Japanese and at Kursk against the genocidal Globalist Nazis.
No they are not...The difference is, that in Iraq and Afghanistan ordinary American soldiers and, as well, American civilians didn't see the difference between "good guys" and "bad guys". Both of them were strange foreigners, unknown and menacing.
Russians and Ukrainians are, in fact, one nation. Almost everyone has a cousin on another side and often talk with them in internet. And, ordinary Russian soldier actually see local Russian women and children behind him and actual German tanks with Ukrainian Banderovci (Nazi-collaborants) in front of him. And after, say, Odessa massacre, Russian women and children are really frightened of Ukrainian Nazi-collaborants backed by NATO. So, from their point of view, Russian soldiers actually defend their families.
Some of them (like people in Crimea and Donbass) did it, and other are doing it right now. From the other hand, if Banderovci want to live in West - why they just immigrate in Canada? Banderovci want to join the West, Vatniks want to join Russia. So, the winners will get the land of Ukraine, and the losers will leave it (or will fertilize it).
Kievan regime is openly abusing, discriminative and oppressive. They do ban any public usage of Russian language, they do murder their political opponents, they do steal other people's property and so on.
Actually, the Russian Federation is a federation, and its regions have a significant cultural and linguistic autonomy. There are twenty six "state languages" (including Ukrainian), and the right to use freely one's own language is written in the Constitution.
No offense. I just explain why the Russians are fighting, how they see the situation and what can and what can't be done. For example, we can't convince Russians (living in Russia itself, Ukraine, Baltic states or even in America) that discrimination of Russians is a good thing, and, therefore, Kievan and Baltic regimes should not be seen as enemies.
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Russia's 'Low Quality' Troops See Spike in Losses: UK30 Dec 2023 ~~ By James Bickerton
Russia's "low quality" troops see spike in losses: UK
Russia is on track to suffer 500,000 casualties by the beginning of 2025, a new British intelligence assessment says.www.newsweek.com
Russian personnel losses in Ukraine have increased by "almost 300 per day," compared to those in 2022, due to Moscow's growing reliant on a "lower quality, high quantity mass army." This comes from the latest intelligence update published by the British Ministry of Defense.
The analysis said that Russia is on track to suffer 500,000 killed and wounded by the beginning of 2025, a figure dwarfing Russian losses in any other conflict since World War II.
Russian troops have spent the past couple of months trying to seize the eastern Ukrainian town of Avdiivka, situated in Donetsk Oblast, though they have made only limited gains.
On Friday, the Russians launched one of the biggest aerial assaults on Ukrainian cities since the war began in February 2022, with at least 39 people killed by 120 missiles and 36 drones, according to Kyiv. On Saturday, 10 people were killed and 40 injured by missiles and drones in the Russian city of Belgorod, according to Russian authorities. They said they have shot down dozens of projectiles fired from Ukraine. Newsweek has not been able to verify these casualty figures independently.
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Russian President Vladimir Putin announced the mobilization of 300,000 reservists in September 2022. This was to make up for heavy losses suffered by the regular military during the initial invasion of Ukraine.
However, the British update said that Russia is on track to suffer 500,000 casualties, adding: "If casualties continue at the current rate through the next year, by 2025 Russia will have sustained over half a million personnel killed and wounded over three years of war. This is compared to the Soviet Union's 70,000 casualties in the nine-year Soviet-Afghan War."
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Russia has also lost over 500 vehicles mainly APC;s and tanks, so mush so that they are sending in troops without armored support.
The Russian people revolted with 70,000 men killed in Afghanistan there may soon be internal problems for Putin.
As it is, Putin has been forced to block his opponent for the time being.
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Russian anti-war candidate blocked from facing Putin in presidential election
Russian anti-war candidate blocked from facing Putin in presidential election Independent Yekaterina Duntsova, 40, wanted to run on a platform to end the war with Ukraine https://www.foxnews.com/world/russian-anti-war-candidate-blocked-facing-putin-presidential-election 23 Dec 2023 ~~ By Michael...www.usmessageboard.com
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Russia loses three large amphibious assault ships in Black Sea, 10 more to go
As Ukrainian forces have destroyed the Novocherkassk Russian landing ship tank (LST) in occupied Crimea, the number of such vessels lost by Russia has reached three, with ten more remaining in the Black Sea.www.pravda.com.ua
**********Russia loses three large amphibious assault ships in Black Sea, 10 more to go
As Ukrainian forces have destroyed the Novocherkassk Russian landing ship tank (LST) in occupied Crimea, the number of such vessels lost by Russia has reached three, with ten more remaining in the Black Sea.**********
Russia suffers heavy losses in Ukraine on Christmas Day: Kyiv
"In total, five 'Su' aircraft were shot down in the week before Christmas," Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said on Monday.**********
Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, December 16, 2023
Ukrainian forces continue operations on the east (left) bank of the Dnipro River in Kherson Oblast amid reported difficult conditions in ...www.criticalthreats.org
That's why people of Donbass hates Kievan Junta and loves Moscow. Besides all other things, it were Ukrainians who started "water blocade", and it were Russians, who builded new water pipes and gave them water.
And yes, water blockade will be ended after elimination of Ukro-Nazies.
Yep, some are leaving. In a time of war, not before. That was even when the Ukraine was the poorest country in Europe. Clearly it wasn't that bad at all. Seeing how many people are emigrating from Russia, it wouldn't surprise me if people were leaving the Ukraine too.
Russia: total migratory flows | Statista
How many people have emigrated within Russia and abroad? The sum of internal and international emigrants in Russia decreased in 2021 from the previous year.
Russia emigration increased after 2010. It's dropped recently, probably because Putin is trying to prevent people from leaving.
When I went to Russia I was staying in a hostel in St Petersburg and there were two girls there from Siberia trying to get visas to go to the UK. They said if they got their visa they'd not come back, just stay there illegally. One got the visa, the other didn't.
In times of war, you have to discriminate. The US locked up Japanese Americans, literally US citizens, because they looked like the enemy. When your whole nation is on the line, people will discriminate. Better to be safe than sorry. It's not like Russia doesn't discriminate either.
You're talking about stealing people's property, when Russia is trying to steal the whole fucking country of the Ukraine... I mean... it's like peanuts compared to stars, isn't it?
Russia is a "federation", North Korea is a "Republic"... they can call it whatever they want, that doesn't mean it has that much autonomy. How much autonomy does Chechnya have? Not much seeing how long Russia spent destroying the crap out of it to stop them leaving Russia.
The leader of Chechnya is crazy, if he's not already dead, I don't know, and he rules with an iron fist. There's only one region which seems to be away from Putin's sphere, and it's in Siberia and even then Putin controls all the media there anyway. So much for autonomy.
You're not explaining how Russians think, you're telling me things. Ie, this is YOUR OPINION. You don't write "Russians think..." you're saying "Kievian Regime" which is bizarre...
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Chicken KievYep, some are leaving. In a time of war, not before. That was even when the Ukraine was the poorest country in Europe. Clearly it wasn't that bad at all. Seeing how many people are emigrating from Russia, it wouldn't surprise me if people were leaving the Ukraine too.
Russia: total migratory flows | Statista
How many people have emigrated within Russia and abroad? The sum of internal and international emigrants in Russia decreased in 2021 from the previous year.
Russia emigration increased after 2010. It's dropped recently, probably because Putin is trying to prevent people from leaving.
When I went to Russia I was staying in a hostel in St Petersburg and there were two girls there from Siberia trying to get visas to go to the UK. They said if they got their visa they'd not come back, just stay there illegally. One got the visa, the other didn't.
In times of war, you have to discriminate. The US locked up Japanese Americans, literally US citizens, because they looked like the enemy. When your whole nation is on the line, people will discriminate. Better to be safe than sorry. It's not like Russia doesn't discriminate either.
You're talking about stealing people's property, when Russia is trying to steal the whole fucking country of the Ukraine... I mean... it's like peanuts compared to stars, isn't it?
Russia is a "federation", North Korea is a "Republic"... they can call it whatever they want, that doesn't mean it has that much autonomy. How much autonomy does Chechnya have? Not much seeing how long Russia spent destroying the crap out of it to stop them leaving Russia.
The leader of Chechnya is crazy, if he's not already dead, I don't know, and he rules with an iron fist. There's only one region which seems to be away from Putin's sphere, and it's in Siberia and even then Putin controls all the media there anyway. So much for autonomy.
You're not explaining how Russians think, you're telling me things. Ie, this is YOUR OPINION. You don't write "Russians think..." you're saying "Kievian Regime" which is bizarre...
Chicken Kiev
The internal affairs of a foreign country are none of our business. Russia and China can be very useful to America; the Ukraine is useless and always has been. Foreign-policy Karens cause nothing but trouble.
Transnationalist Globalist traitors are financing the Yookie Chucky-puppet army. Another cabal is the Cold-War nostalgics: sissyboy draftdodgers whose Daddies got rich off the MI-Complex.
Maybe the new generation of Russian Mothers will be different. But who knows?
The difference without a difference is not a difference. It's like say, that Yankees and Californians are one nation.No they are not...
That is like say Ireland and UK are one nation... They are not...
Actually, in 1929, the most severe starvation in USSR was in Volga region (which is definitely not Ukraine), and the most severe starvation in Ukraine was in the Western Ukraine, which was, in time, a part of Poland. And not, "forced industrialisation" (which was paid by lifes of farmers) was not about ethnicity, it was about "class struggle".History by Putin is not real...
When the test of being one nation came in 1929 Russia robbed Ukraine's food and left 20% of their population starve to death. That is the simple test, Russia didn't consider them fellow country men.
