Roy Moore: "Immorality Sweeps Over The Land"

Before the 14th amendment is was certainly possible.
Not after either. Scotus got it wrong. It's not the first time. I can think of two others.

So are you saying States can ban gun ownership?
Dude, you are so far afield it isn't even funny.

Marty occasionally joins threads to derail them. He's in full derail glory this morning.

I asked a perfectly legitamate question.

Not in a thread about Moore it isn't. Not when there was no discussion of guns. You're trying to hijack the thread, avoid a discussion of Moore and make this about anything else.

No thank you. If you want to discuss guns, start a thread on it.
 
Most certainly the states are not allowed to establish a state religion. Where the hell do you get an idea like that?

Before the 14th amendment is was certainly possible.

Oh, the Bill of Rights didn't apply to the States before the 14th amendment. The States could criminalize being a jew if they'd wanted to. Or suppress free speech. Or set up voting rules to prevent black folks from voting.

Which might explain Moore's favor of eliminating every amendment after the 10th.

He's still living rent free in your heads, which is sad and comical.

Laughing.....the election was the day before *yesterday*. Moore hasn't even conceded yet. Give it a few more before you start throwing up excuses to flee the conversation.

Also, this man received the blessing of the GOP and Trump. Even in defeat, they own his message.

"Blessing"

Yup. Funding and unqualified support for the accused pedophile. They own that support even after Moore lost. Just like Trump owns support for every nasty provision in the Obamacare repeals that he supported.

Just because you lose doesn't mean your support for awful vanishes. It merely means you failed to implemented awful.
 
Before the 14th amendment is was certainly possible.

Oh, the Bill of Rights didn't apply to the States before the 14th amendment. The States could criminalize being a jew if they'd wanted to. Or suppress free speech. Or set up voting rules to prevent black folks from voting.

Which might explain Moore's favor of eliminating every amendment after the 10th.

He's still living rent free in your heads, which is sad and comical.

Laughing.....the election was the day before *yesterday*. Moore hasn't even conceded yet. Give it a few more before you start throwing up excuses to flee the conversation.

Also, this man received the blessing of the GOP and Trump. Even in defeat, they own his message.

"Blessing"

Yup. Funding and unqualified support for the accused pedophile. They own that support even after Moore lost. Just like Trump owns support for every nasty provision in the Obamacare repeals that he supported.

Just because you lose doesn't mean your support for awful vanishes. It merely means you failed to implemented awful.

Now we just accuse everyone, nobody is ever electable.............

HEY, YOU MAY BE ON TO SOMETHING!
 
Lets see....imposing a religious test to hold office in which Muslims should not be allowed to hold elected office because 'Islamic law is simply incompatible with our law'

Muslim Ellison should not sit in Congress
http://www.wnd.com/2006/12/39271/

If Ellison does not recognise the right of people to live outside the influence of Islam he should not be allowed to sit in Congress, IMO.


Banning same sex couples from their right to marry, despite the Supreme Court recognizing such a right in the Obergefell ruling....

Top Alabama Judge Orders Halt to Same-Sex Marriage Licenses
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/07/...rders-halt-to-same-sex-marriage-licenses.html

SCOTUS made a horrible decision and I agree with Moore.

There is no such thing as 'same sex marriage' as marriage has always been defined as the union of a man and woman, not tow men, etc.

I totally agree with Moore and I think the US government has an intrinsic self interest in maintaining this definition of marriage.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ters-guide-alabama-senate-election/934965001/

Transgender people are mentally ill and in so far as their mental illness goes, they have no rights to impose it on anyone else by their conduct or other claims to being treated as a transexual in some particular way.

They should all be put in mental institutions..

That gay people shouldn't be allowed to have children

Here Are Some Pretty Wild Things Roy Moore Has Said Over The Years

Again, I agree, and none of these are Constitutional rights whatsoever other than the bullshit gay marriage right that WILL eventually be reversed.
 
Lets see....imposing a religious test to hold office in which Muslims should not be allowed to hold elected office because 'Islamic law is simply incompatible with our law'

Muslim Ellison should not sit in Congress

If Ellison does not recognise the right of people to live outside the influence of Islam he should not be allowed to sit in Congress, IMO.

Its not your opinion that concerns me. Its Moore's. And he's argued that since we are a Christian Nation, a Muslim can't be seated in congress.

Its a loathsome position. There are no religious tests to hold office. In Moore's pseudo-legal wasteland, there are.

Banning same sex couples from their right to marry, despite the Supreme Court recognizing such a right in the Obergefell ruling....

Top Alabama Judge Orders Halt to Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

SCOTUS made a horrible decision and I agree with Moore.

The ethics board that unseated Moore and kicked him out of the Alabama Supreme Court agreed with the Supreme Court. And again, your personal opinion is irrelevant. This is about Moore's positions.

Transgender people are mentally ill and in so far as their mental illness goes, they have no rights to impose it on anyone else by their conduct or other claims to being treated as a transexual in some particular way.

Transgender people still have rights. Per Roy Moore, they have none. And that's a vilely unconstitutional position.

Again, I agree, and none of these are Constitutional rights whatsoever other than the bullshit gay marriage right that WILL eventually be reversed.

Again, your agreement is irrelevant. Moore's position is expressly unconstitutional.

Worse, you don't understand what the COnstitution is. Its not an exhaustive list of rights. Its an exhaustive list of *powers*. As the 9th amendment makes ludicriously clear, enumeration in the constitution doesn't define all the rights that exist.

And the right that Moore assailed is the right to raise your *own children*.
 
Not after either. Scotus got it wrong. It's not the first time. I can think of two others.

So are you saying States can ban gun ownership?
Dude, you are so far afield it isn't even funny.

Marty occasionally joins threads to derail them. He's in full derail glory this morning.

I asked a perfectly legitamate question.

Not in a thread about Moore it isn't. Not when there was no discussion of guns. You're trying to hijack the thread, avoid a discussion of Moore and make this about anything else.

No thank you. If you want to discuss guns, start a thread on it.

He made a statement about States being able to ignore the bill of rights, specifically the 1st amendment and establishment of religion. I asked him if that applies to the 2nd as well.

It's a valid question.
 
Before the 14th amendment is was certainly possible.

Oh, the Bill of Rights didn't apply to the States before the 14th amendment. The States could criminalize being a jew if they'd wanted to. Or suppress free speech. Or set up voting rules to prevent black folks from voting.

Which might explain Moore's favor of eliminating every amendment after the 10th.

He's still living rent free in your heads, which is sad and comical.

Laughing.....the election was the day before *yesterday*. Moore hasn't even conceded yet. Give it a few more before you start throwing up excuses to flee the conversation.

Also, this man received the blessing of the GOP and Trump. Even in defeat, they own his message.

"Blessing"

Yup. Funding and unqualified support for the accused pedophile. They own that support even after Moore lost. Just like Trump owns support for every nasty provision in the Obamacare repeals that he supported.

Just because you lose doesn't mean your support for awful vanishes. It merely means you failed to implemented awful.


They supported an Accused candidate, just like your side supported an accused Clinton when he was impeached for perjury.

Funny how all this could have been avoided if the story broke during the Republican primary, instead of when Moore was locked into the race and the republicans couldn't do anything about it. it's almost like the reporter and his supported cared more about the Senate seat than the whole accused kid toucher thing...
 
So are you saying States can ban gun ownership?
Dude, you are so far afield it isn't even funny.

Marty occasionally joins threads to derail them. He's in full derail glory this morning.

I asked a perfectly legitamate question.

Not in a thread about Moore it isn't. Not when there was no discussion of guns. You're trying to hijack the thread, avoid a discussion of Moore and make this about anything else.

No thank you. If you want to discuss guns, start a thread on it.

He made a statement about States being able to ignore the bill of rights, specifically the 1st amendment and establishment of religion. I asked him if that applies to the 2nd as well.

It's a valid question.

No, you're trying to make this a gun conversation. Sigh....again.

No thank you.
 
Oh, the Bill of Rights didn't apply to the States before the 14th amendment. The States could criminalize being a jew if they'd wanted to. Or suppress free speech. Or set up voting rules to prevent black folks from voting.

Which might explain Moore's favor of eliminating every amendment after the 10th.

He's still living rent free in your heads, which is sad and comical.

Laughing.....the election was the day before *yesterday*. Moore hasn't even conceded yet. Give it a few more before you start throwing up excuses to flee the conversation.

Also, this man received the blessing of the GOP and Trump. Even in defeat, they own his message.

"Blessing"

Yup. Funding and unqualified support for the accused pedophile. They own that support even after Moore lost. Just like Trump owns support for every nasty provision in the Obamacare repeals that he supported.

Just because you lose doesn't mean your support for awful vanishes. It merely means you failed to implemented awful.


They supported an Accused candidate, just like your side supported an accused Clinton when he was impeached for perjury.

Funny how all this could have been avoided if the story broke during the Republican primary, instead of when Moore was locked into the race and the republicans couldn't do anything about it. it's almost like the reporter and his supported cared more about the Senate seat than the whole accused kid toucher thing...

Why Marty....are you insinuating yet *another* conspiracy theory?

And of course, if you have evidence that the Post reporter sat on the finished story until the republican primaries were over, present it. Or you can continue to insinuate a conspiracy you can't back up factually.
 
Roy Moore turns refusal to concede into religious crusade: ‘Immorality sweeps over the land’

A day after losing the Senate race in Alabama to Democrat Doug Jones, Roy Moore has issued a new statement refusing to concede the election. But it wasn’t your typical post-election statement.

It was a four-minute fire-and-brimstone video about abortion, same-sex marriage, school prayer, sodomy, and “the right of a man to claim to be a woman and vice versa.”

“We are indeed in a struggle to preserve our republic, our civilization and our religion and to set free a suffering humanity,” Moore said. “Today, we no longer recognize the universal truth that God is the author of our life and liberty. Abortion, sodomy and materialism have taken the place of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”

In the video issued by the campaign Wednesday evening, Moore said his campaign is still waiting for the official vote count from Alabama officials. The Republican candidate framed the election as not just a political contest but also a dire ideological battle for “the heart and soul of our country.”

You've been removed as Chief Justice twice. You lost two primaries for the governorship. You lost the Senate race to a Democrat in a solid red state. Maybe God isn't as hot on you as you'd think. Go away.
THE PEOPLE FOR ROY MOORE!!!!!....ROY MOORE FOR OFFICE IN 1950!!!!
 
Most certainly the states are not allowed to establish a state religion. Where the hell do you get an idea like that?

Before the 14th amendment is was certainly possible.
Not after either. Scotus got it wrong. It's not the first time. I can think of two others.

So are you saying States can ban gun ownership?
Dude, you are so far afield it isn't even funny.

Why don't you just answer the question?
Because it isn't relevant and because SCOTUS does not have the authority to legislate.
 
When it involves the level of hypocrisy that Roy Moore has shown, it should bend us all out of shape.
And if your religious beliefs force you to ignore basic freedoms and tenets of our society, you should not be elected to office.

So you leap from the presumption of guilt for Moore based on unsupported allegations, to banning all those who think like him (Biblical Christians?) from politics for opposing what you consider to be basic freedoms and tenets of society?

Since when did fucking some guy up the ass become a moral right?

Homosexual sex is not a moral right?
Wouldn't that be more like a sexual preference?
It’s a protected liberty.

Citizens have the right to make personal decisions about intimate aspects of their lives absent interference from the state:

“When sexuality finds overt expression in intimate conduct with another person, the conduct can be but one element in a personal bond that is more enduring. The liberty protected by the Constitution allows homosexual persons the right to make this choice.” (Lawrence v. Texas (2003))
 
Not after either. Scotus got it wrong. It's not the first time. I can think of two others.

So are you saying States can ban gun ownership?
Dude, you are so far afield it isn't even funny.

Marty occasionally joins threads to derail them. He's in full derail glory this morning.

I asked a perfectly legitamate question.

Not in a thread about Moore it isn't. Not when there was no discussion of guns. You're trying to hijack the thread, avoid a discussion of Moore and make this about anything else.

No thank you. If you want to discuss guns, start a thread on it.
Conservatives: masters of the red herring fallacy.
 
Moore needs to read the Constitution
Moore needs to read the Constitution’s case law, acknowledge it as the law of the land, and respect the rule of law.

And it’s not just Moore, that’s something every conservative needs to do.
And by law of the land you mean to say state law because the establishment clause of the 1st Amendment only restricts the Federal Government from establishing a national religion and from interfering with the established religions of the states of which there are presently none.
 
When it involves the level of hypocrisy that Roy Moore has shown, it should bend us all out of shape.
And if your religious beliefs force you to ignore basic freedoms and tenets of our society, you should not be elected to office.

So you leap from the presumption of guilt for Moore based on unsupported allegations, to banning all those who think like him (Biblical Christians?) from politics for opposing what you consider to be basic freedoms and tenets of society?

Since when did fucking some guy up the ass become a moral right?

Homosexual sex is not a moral right?
Wouldn't that be more like a sexual preference?
It’s a protected liberty.

Citizens have the right to make personal decisions about intimate aspects of their lives absent interference from the state:

“When sexuality finds overt expression in intimate conduct with another person, the conduct can be but one element in a personal bond that is more enduring. The liberty protected by the Constitution allows homosexual persons the right to make this choice.” (Lawrence v. Texas (2003))
No. It's a sexual preference. Sort of like doggie style.
 
Dude, you are so far afield it isn't even funny.

Marty occasionally joins threads to derail them. He's in full derail glory this morning.

I asked a perfectly legitamate question.

Not in a thread about Moore it isn't. Not when there was no discussion of guns. You're trying to hijack the thread, avoid a discussion of Moore and make this about anything else.

No thank you. If you want to discuss guns, start a thread on it.

He made a statement about States being able to ignore the bill of rights, specifically the 1st amendment and establishment of religion. I asked him if that applies to the 2nd as well.

It's a valid question.

No, you're trying to make this a gun conversation. Sigh....again.

No thank you.

It was a conversation about extension of the bill of rights to the States, one of the parts of the bill of rights is the 2nd amendment.
 
He's still living rent free in your heads, which is sad and comical.

Laughing.....the election was the day before *yesterday*. Moore hasn't even conceded yet. Give it a few more before you start throwing up excuses to flee the conversation.

Also, this man received the blessing of the GOP and Trump. Even in defeat, they own his message.

"Blessing"

Yup. Funding and unqualified support for the accused pedophile. They own that support even after Moore lost. Just like Trump owns support for every nasty provision in the Obamacare repeals that he supported.

Just because you lose doesn't mean your support for awful vanishes. It merely means you failed to implemented awful.


They supported an Accused candidate, just like your side supported an accused Clinton when he was impeached for perjury.

Funny how all this could have been avoided if the story broke during the Republican primary, instead of when Moore was locked into the race and the republicans couldn't do anything about it. it's almost like the reporter and his supported cared more about the Senate seat than the whole accused kid toucher thing...

Why Marty....are you insinuating yet *another* conspiracy theory?

And of course, if you have evidence that the Post reporter sat on the finished story until the republican primaries were over, present it. Or you can continue to insinuate a conspiracy you can't back up factually.

Unlike most actual conspiracy theories this one is a lot easier to believe. it doesn't involve murder, or fake documents, or melting/non-melting steel, or 100,000 people faking a moon landing.

All it requires is a partisan reporting holding onto a story until it does the most benefit for his partisan friends.
 
Before the 14th amendment is was certainly possible.
Not after either. Scotus got it wrong. It's not the first time. I can think of two others.

So are you saying States can ban gun ownership?
Dude, you are so far afield it isn't even funny.

Why don't you just answer the question?
Because it isn't relevant and because SCOTUS does not have the authority to legislate.

I agree SCOTUS cannot legislate, but again, if you don't think the 14th incorporates federal rights onto the States, why can't a State ban gun ownership?
 

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