Romney-ites...name one conservative...

and Obama's a left liberal. If you vote for anyone besides Romney in the primaries, you're supporting Obama: a left liberal.

That would be your opinion.

But if you vote for a liberal from either party you voted for a liberal. :eek:

Yeah. It's the lesser of two liberals.

I am not interested in the lessor of two evils. If you can not gain enough support for your guy.

WORK HARDER!
 
and Obama's a left liberal. If you vote for anyone besides Romney in the primaries, you're supporting Obama: a left liberal.
That's how Bubba won.

I still think Bubba won because Perot took votes away from Bush, Sr. but we will never know.
Yes, I agree that is how Bubba won. I helped him by voting for Perot. But, like so many things - right - we will never know. It's more a probability than a possibility, though.
 
It's the same idea. Lincoln lost over and over again before winning the Presidency. I think he was 0-8. How many elections had McCain lost before losing in 2008? I assure you his record was better than 1-3. In fact I think his only loss was in 2000.

Actually, Lincoln only ran for federal office five times in his life, and he won 3 out of 5. He won his first race as a Congressman in 1846. He served one term as promised and was done. He ran for the Senate in 1854, but he was running to be appointed by the legislature, not popular election. That one he lost, but he was running as a Whig when the Whig party was on it's last legs. He lost in 1858 when he ran as a Republican, but it was against Douglas, who already had the job. He won in 1860 and again in 1864.

Abraham Lincoln - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So he had a 60% victory rate, and a 100% rate when put to the people.

Now let's look at Romney.

Lost to Ted Kennedy in 1994. By 17 points when a lot of people thought Kennedy was vulnerable after the whole rape case trial of his nephew, William Kennedy Smith. It was a year when Republicans were rolling over everyone, and Romney lost.

Won in 2002 for Governor. Spent 7 million of his own money, ran unopposed for the nomination, and his Democratic opponent was a non-entity. And it was 2002, when the Democrats were cowed into submission after 9/11. So despite essentially shooting at a staked rabbit, he only won with 49% of the vote.

2006- Wanted to run for re-election. Polls showed him trailing Devall Patrick by double digits. Left some other poor fool holding the bag.

Then we get to 2008. Spent millions of his own money. Raised millions from other Wall Street bloodsuckers. He lost Iowa to Mike Huckabee running on a shoe string. Lost NH to John McCain who had been declared dead a few months before. He barely won Michigan, but only because McCain didn't contest it. Michigan was holding an illegal early primary, and lost half its delegates. Romney barely won by promising to bail out the auto industry. (Then he condemned Obama for actually bailing out the auto industury.)

He then came in fourth in South Carolina. The guy who came in third quit the next day. He lost Florida.

Ah, and now we get to Super Tuesday. Do you know how many primaries Romney won? Two. Utah, where his fellow LDS cultists voted for him, and his home state of Massachusets, where McCain still came damned close despite not actually campaigning there.

So you can kind of see why the GOP establishment is trying to rig the game for Romney, left to his own devices, he usually manages to muck it up.

mad google skilz, d00d

btw, he had zero intention of running for reelection in '06-he was out the door at the end of '05 revving up his pres campaign.

i think he sucks, but the sad thing is there's no one better at this point.

unless you really think one of those "social" conservatives has a chance in hell. :lol:
McCain & Romney...way to go non-social conservatives...you guys are batting a thousand :rolleyes:
 
That's how Bubba won.

I still think Bubba won because Perot took votes away from Bush, Sr. but we will never know.
Yes, I agree that is how Bubba won. I helped him by voting for Perot. But, like so many things - right - we will never know. It's more a probability than a possibility, though.

I'd have voted for Perot, too, but I was 17. I did vote for Perot in 1996.
 
Yeah. It's the lesser of two liberals.

I am not interested in the lessor of two evils. If you can not gain enough support for your guy.

WORK HARDER!

Working harder always yields the result you want. :doubt:

Who is your guy, if not Romney?

If its Romney I will vote an Identical ticket as I did with McCain.

For president. Mickey Mouse
VP Donald Duck.

I am pissed democrats counted my votes for Obama, blue state you know.
 
I am not interested in the lessor of two evils. If you can not gain enough support for your guy.

WORK HARDER!

Working harder always yields the result you want. :doubt:

Who is your guy, if not Romney?

If its Romney I will vote an Identical ticket as I did with McCain.

For president. Mickey Mouse
VP Donald Duck.

I am pissed democrats counted my votes for Obama, blue state you know.
Good. Now you know how your vote counted and how it will count again.
 
...policy Mitt instituted while governor of Massachusetts.

He increased revenue by raising fee sometimes as much as 1000%.

Fees were increased so much, so often, Romney was referred to as Fifi (fee fee).

He instituted Romneycare.

He banned so called assault weapons.

He had illegal immigrants working for him.

He did nothing to end the practice of sanctuary cities until AFTER he decided not to seek reelection.

He was 47th worst for job creation...and that was when unemployment ran at 5%.

So, what did he do when he had the big chair?

Because it looks like an Obama prequel.

How can any conservative support this track record of liberal ideology?

Just like Obama, Romney is a polished speaker, but his actions paint the real picture.

I'm not a romneyite but here is some stuff for you to think about.

Romney served as governor of Massachusetts (2003-2007). He balanced the budget every year of his administration with out increasing taxes or increasing state dept. Romney turned a $3 billion budget deficit into a $500 million surplus by reducing government spending and added 80,000 new jobs by the end of his term.

In 2004, 2005, and 2006 Governor Romney proposed cutting the state income tax from 5.3% to 5.0%. Although the Democratic super majority in the state legislator refused to budge.

Romney vetoed 844 pieces of legislation, with over 700 overridden. He vetoed an increase in the minimum wage, saying "there's no question raising the minimum wage excessively causes a loss of jobs."

Under Governor Romney this state (im from ma) abolished a retroactive capital gains tax that would have forced nearly 50,000 taxpayers to pay additional taxes and fees.

In 2006, Governor Romney testified before the United States Senate to support the Federal Marriage Amendment, which would limit marriage to one man and one woman

Romney filed legislation to reinstate capital punishment, but was defeated in the Massachusetts House of Representatives on a 99-53 vote.

Mitt Romney made no pardons as governor, "My conclusion was, if somebody has been convicted by a jury of their peers, and they’ve been prosecuted and the police were able to get the evidence necessary to put them behind bars, why in the world would I step in and reverse that sentence?"

Romney called for the privatization of the University of Massachusetts medical school. In 2004, he established the John and Abigail Adams Scholarship Program, which rewarded the top 25 percent of Massachusetts high school students with tuition-free scholarship to any Massachusetts public university or college.

In August 2006, Governor Romney refused to allow former Iranian President Mohammed Khatami, an outspoken opponent of the United States and Israel, state police escorts during his speech at Harvard University.

In December 2006, Romney signed a memorandum of agreement with the federal government that would allow state troopers to enforce federal immigration laws, however was revoked when Democrat Deval Patrict took office as Governor in January 2007.


Just sayin as a governor he did some conservative stuff in my state ;)
 
Romney took over in 2003 and the state of Mass. had a $3 Billion budget deficit- He balanced the budget in 1 year without raising taxes (he did close tax loopholes and increase fees- some which had not increased in 50 years) and the state ran surpluses in 2004, 2005 and 2006. He vetoed over a thousand bills as governor. One of those was a law that would have allowed illegal immigrants a to pay in-state tuition rates. He's a fiscal conservative. He's strong on immigration. He's able to get things done. I don't agree with him on every issue, but I still like him better than any of the other candidates running.
 
Brace yourself...

Perry did that too...for 10 years...and had a 9 billion dollar surplus.

While lowering taxes overall...and Texas has zero state tax.



And created more jobs than the other 49 states combined...not 47th.

During the worst recession since the Great depression.

And Romney didn't want to veto in state tuition...he did it for political reasons...like every decision he makes.

Romney didn't do anything about sanctuary cities until after he announced he would not be seeking reelection, another political decision.
 
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Brace yourself...

Perry did that too...for 10 years...and had a 9 billion dollar surplus.

While lowering taxes overall...and Texas has zero state tax.



And created more jobs than the other 49 states combined...not 47th.

During the worst recession since the Great depression.

And Romney didn't want to veto in state tuition...he did it for political reasons...like every decision he makes.

Romney didn't do anything about sanctuary cities until after he announced he would not be seeking reelection, another political decision.

I'm not stating the facts about Romney's record to dipsarage Perry.

You asked for examples of when Romney acted conservative and I gave you some is all.

I'm a Cain man myself with Newt being my #2.
 
Brace yourself...

Perry did that too...for 10 years...and had a 9 billion dollar surplus.

While lowering taxes overall...and Texas has zero state tax.



And created more jobs than the other 49 states combined...not 47th.

During the worst recession since the Great depression.

And Romney didn't want to veto in state tuition...he did it for political reasons...like every decision he makes.

Romney didn't do anything about sanctuary cities until after he announced he would not be seeking reelection, another political decision.

I'm not stating the facts about Romney's record to dipsarage Perry.

You asked for examples of when Romney acted conservative and I gave you some is all.

I'm a Cain man myself with Newt being my #2.

Lot of people think Newt is #2.......not me but a lot.:eusa_angel:
 
...policy Mitt instituted while governor of Massachusetts.

He increased revenue by raising fee sometimes as much as 1000%.

Fees were increased so much, so often, Romney was referred to as Fifi (fee fee).

He instituted Romneycare.

He banned so called assault weapons.

He had illegal immigrants working for him.

He did nothing to end the practice of sanctuary cities until AFTER he decided not to seek reelection.

He was 47th worst for job creation...and that was when unemployment ran at 5%.

So, what did he do when he had the big chair?

Because it looks like an Obama prequel.

How can any conservative support this track record of liberal ideology?

Just like Obama, Romney is a polished speaker, but his actions paint the real picture.

I'm not a romneyite but here is some stuff for you to think about.

Romney served as governor of Massachusetts (2003-2007). He balanced the budget every year of his administration with out increasing taxes or increasing state dept. Romney turned a $3 billion budget deficit into a $500 million surplus by reducing government spending and added 80,000 new jobs by the end of his term.

In 2004, 2005, and 2006 Governor Romney proposed cutting the state income tax from 5.3% to 5.0%. Although the Democratic super majority in the state legislator refused to budge.

Romney vetoed 844 pieces of legislation, with over 700 overridden. He vetoed an increase in the minimum wage, saying "there's no question raising the minimum wage excessively causes a loss of jobs."

Under Governor Romney this state (im from ma) abolished a retroactive capital gains tax that would have forced nearly 50,000 taxpayers to pay additional taxes and fees.

In 2006, Governor Romney testified before the United States Senate to support the Federal Marriage Amendment, which would limit marriage to one man and one woman

Romney filed legislation to reinstate capital punishment, but was defeated in the Massachusetts House of Representatives on a 99-53 vote.

Mitt Romney made no pardons as governor, "My conclusion was, if somebody has been convicted by a jury of their peers, and they’ve been prosecuted and the police were able to get the evidence necessary to put them behind bars, why in the world would I step in and reverse that sentence?"

Romney called for the privatization of the University of Massachusetts medical school. In 2004, he established the John and Abigail Adams Scholarship Program, which rewarded the top 25 percent of Massachusetts high school students with tuition-free scholarship to any Massachusetts public university or college.

In August 2006, Governor Romney refused to allow former Iranian President Mohammed Khatami, an outspoken opponent of the United States and Israel, state police escorts during his speech at Harvard University.

In December 2006, Romney signed a memorandum of agreement with the federal government that would allow state troopers to enforce federal immigration laws, however was revoked when Democrat Deval Patrict took office as Governor in January 2007.


Just sayin as a governor he did some conservative stuff in my state ;)

That's all nice and good but Mitt believes in Global Warming and his team helped Obama write that monstrosity of a bill Obamacare.

That's enough for me to think he's a plant for the Obama campaign, because all Obama has to do is wait till he wins the nomination and release all of that an Mitt is history and we've got 4 more God Damned years of Obama.
 
...policy Mitt instituted while governor of Massachusetts.

He increased revenue by raising fee sometimes as much as 1000%.

Fees were increased so much, so often, Romney was referred to as Fifi (fee fee).

He instituted Romneycare.

He banned so called assault weapons.

He had illegal immigrants working for him.

He did nothing to end the practice of sanctuary cities until AFTER he decided not to seek reelection.

He was 47th worst for job creation...and that was when unemployment ran at 5%.

So, what did he do when he had the big chair?

Because it looks like an Obama prequel.

How can any conservative support this track record of liberal ideology?

Just like Obama, Romney is a polished speaker, but his actions paint the real picture.

I'm not a romneyite but here is some stuff for you to think about.

Romney served as governor of Massachusetts (2003-2007). He balanced the budget every year of his administration with out increasing taxes or increasing state dept. Romney turned a $3 billion budget deficit into a $500 million surplus by reducing government spending and added 80,000 new jobs by the end of his term.

In 2004, 2005, and 2006 Governor Romney proposed cutting the state income tax from 5.3% to 5.0%. Although the Democratic super majority in the state legislator refused to budge.

Romney vetoed 844 pieces of legislation, with over 700 overridden. He vetoed an increase in the minimum wage, saying "there's no question raising the minimum wage excessively causes a loss of jobs."

Under Governor Romney this state (im from ma) abolished a retroactive capital gains tax that would have forced nearly 50,000 taxpayers to pay additional taxes and fees.

In 2006, Governor Romney testified before the United States Senate to support the Federal Marriage Amendment, which would limit marriage to one man and one woman

Romney filed legislation to reinstate capital punishment, but was defeated in the Massachusetts House of Representatives on a 99-53 vote.

Mitt Romney made no pardons as governor, "My conclusion was, if somebody has been convicted by a jury of their peers, and they’ve been prosecuted and the police were able to get the evidence necessary to put them behind bars, why in the world would I step in and reverse that sentence?"

Romney called for the privatization of the University of Massachusetts medical school. In 2004, he established the John and Abigail Adams Scholarship Program, which rewarded the top 25 percent of Massachusetts high school students with tuition-free scholarship to any Massachusetts public university or college.

In August 2006, Governor Romney refused to allow former Iranian President Mohammed Khatami, an outspoken opponent of the United States and Israel, state police escorts during his speech at Harvard University.

In December 2006, Romney signed a memorandum of agreement with the federal government that would allow state troopers to enforce federal immigration laws, however was revoked when Democrat Deval Patrict took office as Governor in January 2007.


Just sayin as a governor he did some conservative stuff in my state ;)

That's all nice and good but Mitt believes in Global Warming and his team helped Obama write that monstrosity of a bill Obamacare.

That's enough for me to think he's a plant for the Obama campaign, because all Obama has to do is wait till he wins the nomination and release all of that an Mitt is history and we've got 4 more God Damned years of Obama.

then we've got 4 more years of him anyway.
 
I'm not a romneyite but here is some stuff for you to think about.

Romney served as governor of Massachusetts (2003-2007). He balanced the budget every year of his administration with out increasing taxes or increasing state dept. Romney turned a $3 billion budget deficit into a $500 million surplus by reducing government spending and added 80,000 new jobs by the end of his term.

In 2004, 2005, and 2006 Governor Romney proposed cutting the state income tax from 5.3% to 5.0%. Although the Democratic super majority in the state legislator refused to budge.

Romney vetoed 844 pieces of legislation, with over 700 overridden. He vetoed an increase in the minimum wage, saying "there's no question raising the minimum wage excessively causes a loss of jobs."

Under Governor Romney this state (im from ma) abolished a retroactive capital gains tax that would have forced nearly 50,000 taxpayers to pay additional taxes and fees.

In 2006, Governor Romney testified before the United States Senate to support the Federal Marriage Amendment, which would limit marriage to one man and one woman

Romney filed legislation to reinstate capital punishment, but was defeated in the Massachusetts House of Representatives on a 99-53 vote.

Mitt Romney made no pardons as governor, "My conclusion was, if somebody has been convicted by a jury of their peers, and they’ve been prosecuted and the police were able to get the evidence necessary to put them behind bars, why in the world would I step in and reverse that sentence?"

Romney called for the privatization of the University of Massachusetts medical school. In 2004, he established the John and Abigail Adams Scholarship Program, which rewarded the top 25 percent of Massachusetts high school students with tuition-free scholarship to any Massachusetts public university or college.

In August 2006, Governor Romney refused to allow former Iranian President Mohammed Khatami, an outspoken opponent of the United States and Israel, state police escorts during his speech at Harvard University.

In December 2006, Romney signed a memorandum of agreement with the federal government that would allow state troopers to enforce federal immigration laws, however was revoked when Democrat Deval Patrict took office as Governor in January 2007.


Just sayin as a governor he did some conservative stuff in my state ;)

That's all nice and good but Mitt believes in Global Warming and his team helped Obama write that monstrosity of a bill Obamacare.

That's enough for me to think he's a plant for the Obama campaign, because all Obama has to do is wait till he wins the nomination and release all of that an Mitt is history and we've got 4 more God Damned years of Obama.

then we've got 4 more years of him anyway.

As long as everyone puts their heads up their butts we will.

Hope you like the smell of poop.

Personally, I don't.
 
...policy Mitt instituted while governor of Massachusetts.

He increased revenue by raising fee sometimes as much as 1000%.

Fees were increased so much, so often, Romney was referred to as Fifi (fee fee).

He instituted Romneycare.

He banned so called assault weapons.

He had illegal immigrants working for him.

He did nothing to end the practice of sanctuary cities until AFTER he decided not to seek reelection.

He was 47th worst for job creation...and that was when unemployment ran at 5%.

So, what did he do when he had the big chair?

Because it looks like an Obama prequel.

How can any conservative support this track record of liberal ideology?

Just like Obama, Romney is a polished speaker, but his actions paint the real picture.

I'm not a romneyite but here is some stuff for you to think about.

Romney served as governor of Massachusetts (2003-2007). He balanced the budget every year of his administration with out increasing taxes or increasing state dept. Romney turned a $3 billion budget deficit into a $500 million surplus by reducing government spending and added 80,000 new jobs by the end of his term.

In 2004, 2005, and 2006 Governor Romney proposed cutting the state income tax from 5.3% to 5.0%. Although the Democratic super majority in the state legislator refused to budge.

Romney vetoed 844 pieces of legislation, with over 700 overridden. He vetoed an increase in the minimum wage, saying "there's no question raising the minimum wage excessively causes a loss of jobs."

Under Governor Romney this state (im from ma) abolished a retroactive capital gains tax that would have forced nearly 50,000 taxpayers to pay additional taxes and fees.

In 2006, Governor Romney testified before the United States Senate to support the Federal Marriage Amendment, which would limit marriage to one man and one woman

Romney filed legislation to reinstate capital punishment, but was defeated in the Massachusetts House of Representatives on a 99-53 vote.

Mitt Romney made no pardons as governor, "My conclusion was, if somebody has been convicted by a jury of their peers, and they’ve been prosecuted and the police were able to get the evidence necessary to put them behind bars, why in the world would I step in and reverse that sentence?"

Romney called for the privatization of the University of Massachusetts medical school. In 2004, he established the John and Abigail Adams Scholarship Program, which rewarded the top 25 percent of Massachusetts high school students with tuition-free scholarship to any Massachusetts public university or college.

In August 2006, Governor Romney refused to allow former Iranian President Mohammed Khatami, an outspoken opponent of the United States and Israel, state police escorts during his speech at Harvard University.

In December 2006, Romney signed a memorandum of agreement with the federal government that would allow state troopers to enforce federal immigration laws, however was revoked when Democrat Deval Patrict took office as Governor in January 2007.


Just sayin as a governor he did some conservative stuff in my state ;)

That's all nice and good but Mitt believes in Global Warming and his team helped Obama write that monstrosity of a bill Obamacare.

That's enough for me to think he's a plant for the Obama campaign, because all Obama has to do is wait till he wins the nomination and release all of that an Mitt is history and we've got 4 more God Damned years of Obama.

:badgrin:
 
I'm not a romneyite but here is some stuff for you to think about.

Romney served as governor of Massachusetts (2003-2007). He balanced the budget every year of his administration with out increasing taxes or increasing state dept. Romney turned a $3 billion budget deficit into a $500 million surplus by reducing government spending and added 80,000 new jobs by the end of his term.

In 2004, 2005, and 2006 Governor Romney proposed cutting the state income tax from 5.3% to 5.0%. Although the Democratic super majority in the state legislator refused to budge.

Romney vetoed 844 pieces of legislation, with over 700 overridden. He vetoed an increase in the minimum wage, saying "there's no question raising the minimum wage excessively causes a loss of jobs."

Under Governor Romney this state (im from ma) abolished a retroactive capital gains tax that would have forced nearly 50,000 taxpayers to pay additional taxes and fees.

In 2006, Governor Romney testified before the United States Senate to support the Federal Marriage Amendment, which would limit marriage to one man and one woman

Romney filed legislation to reinstate capital punishment, but was defeated in the Massachusetts House of Representatives on a 99-53 vote.

Mitt Romney made no pardons as governor, "My conclusion was, if somebody has been convicted by a jury of their peers, and they’ve been prosecuted and the police were able to get the evidence necessary to put them behind bars, why in the world would I step in and reverse that sentence?"

Romney called for the privatization of the University of Massachusetts medical school. In 2004, he established the John and Abigail Adams Scholarship Program, which rewarded the top 25 percent of Massachusetts high school students with tuition-free scholarship to any Massachusetts public university or college.

In August 2006, Governor Romney refused to allow former Iranian President Mohammed Khatami, an outspoken opponent of the United States and Israel, state police escorts during his speech at Harvard University.

In December 2006, Romney signed a memorandum of agreement with the federal government that would allow state troopers to enforce federal immigration laws, however was revoked when Democrat Deval Patrict took office as Governor in January 2007.


Just sayin as a governor he did some conservative stuff in my state ;)

That's all nice and good but Mitt believes in Global Warming and his team helped Obama write that monstrosity of a bill Obamacare.

That's enough for me to think he's a plant for the Obama campaign, because all Obama has to do is wait till he wins the nomination and release all of that an Mitt is history and we've got 4 more God Damned years of Obama.

:badgrin:


I tried to warn 'em.

Maybe next year they'll listen...but I doubt it.

Chris Christie and Jeb Bush...I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Perhaps I'll just alternate between the two...that seems the most appropriate response.
 

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