Roma people need reservations to go swimming in Macedonia

[Mortimer]

Apparently Roma people need reservations to go swimming these days in Macedonia, and cannot get into swimming pools without one, but Non-Roma can walk right in!

 

[ESay]

So what? Isn't that a wannabe for 'conservatives' in Europe and America?

 

[Mortimer]

So what? Isn't that a wannabe for 'conservatives' in Europe and America?

Probably, but do you think everyone is a "conservative" or there are people who will say "thats wrong"? I mean i highlight that it is a racial segregation and wrong (in my opinion). Why would i say the same as a "conservative"?

 

[ESay]

Probably, but do you think everyone is a "conservative" or there are people who will say "thats wrong"? I mean i highlight that it is a racial segregation and wrong (in my opinion). Why would i say the same as a "conservative"?

Some will say it is wrong, some will say the Roma aren't welcome there. Depends on a point of view.

 

[Mortimer]

Some will say it is wrong, some will say the Roma aren't welcome there. Depends on a point of view.

Seems as if you think its a equal point of view or equally legit. Or just "depends on the view" im not sure you would say this about any other minority group. You striked me as liberal so far, or center.

 

[ESay]

Seems as if you think its a equal point of view or equally legit. Or just "depends on the view" im not sure you would say this about any other minority group. You striked me as liberal so far, or center.

First of all, I don't expect much from the Balkans. Second, with rising 'right' sentiments in Europe such things may become more common.

 

[Mortimer]

First of all, I don't expect much from the Balkans. Second, with rising 'right' sentiments in Europe such things may become more common.

But as a moderate you should opposse it not accept it

 

[1srelluc]

I guess they figure that they won't steal from each other.

 

[JWBooth]

Roma have always been the most discriminated against in Europe.

 

[Litwin]

racial segregation

its not a racial , but social- economic segregation. whats INTERESTING here , in EU YOU DO VERY BAD (by all definitions ) but in Latin America you are very successful . So my advice to M. gypsies- move to Brazil or Paraguay , M. is a very poor , and problematic country anyway
Europe



Brazil

 

[Mortimer]

its not a racial , but social- economic segregation. whats INTERESTING here , in EU YOU DO VERY BAD (by all definitions ) but in Latin America you are very successful . So my advice to M. gypsies- move to Brazil or Paraguay , M. is a very poor , and problematic country anyway
Europe



Brazil

Its not economic because rich gypsies are still gypsies and poor slavs are still slavs and also seen and treated that way but there is a overlap that gypsies are socio economic at the bottom but its similar as that its often blacks who are poor and you would not say discrimination of blacks is only economic

 

[JohnDB]

Apparently Roma people need reservations to go swimming these days in Macedonia, and cannot get into swimming pools without one, but Non-Roma can walk right in!

I can't say as I blame them.

Unless you live in the area....do not believe everything that is propaganda.

 

[Mortimer]

I can't say as I blame them.

Unless you live in the area....do not believe everything that is propaganda.

If its propaganda i would opposse it but im sure roma can have such a exoerience im not saying in every Swimmingpool in macedonia or that macedonia is evil but I believe it can happen in some Swimmingpools or Restaurants shops but it could be in the USA too or britain im not saying macedonia is evil but if such a incident happened i think we should call it out

 

[JohnDB]

If its propaganda i would opposse it but im sure roma can have such a exoerience im not saying in every Swimmingpool in macedonia or that macedonia is evil but I believe it can happen in some Swimmingpools or Restaurants shops but it could be in the USA too or britain im not saying macedonia is evil but if such a incident happened i think we should call it out

All over Eastern Europe the Roma are notorious. They act like thugs, often stealing and destroying things like thugs, and assaulting innocents like thugs.

Now where you might declare it as racism....the Roma are more racist than the communities they occupy. They are getting back the fruits of their labors and actions.

People claim the USA is racist....it's actually the least racist nation in the world. You have to see to believe for some people. But the USA is usually a paradise by far comparison to other countries.

 

[Litwin]

Its not economic because rich gypsies are still gypsies and poor slavs are still slavs and also seen and treated that way but there is a overlap that gypsies are socio economic at the bottom but its similar as that its often blacks who are poor and you would not say discrimination of blacks is only economic

BLM racist crap , you try to sell here the narrative that you have always been oppressed ´cos you are black. But you are not Black (African ) , you guys look like Egyptians. I´d like to see you guys playing Egyptians in Netflix Cleopatra show. You can be a Egyptian priest .


rich gypsies live a life of rich men. ps did you miss my question ? why you gypsies do so well in Latin America ? and maybe this is a solution ?

 

[Litwin]

I can't say as I blame them.

Unless you live in the area....do not believe everything that is propaganda.

Gypsy guy in the video acts very aggressive, we dont accept a such rudish behavior.

ps they do very well in L. America

 

[Mortimer]

All over Eastern Europe the Roma are notorious. They act like thugs, often stealing and destroying things like thugs, and assaulting innocents like thugs.

Now where you might declare it as racism....the Roma are more racist than the communities they occupy. They are getting back the fruits of their labors and actions.

People claim the USA is racist....it's actually the least racist nation in the world. You have to see to believe for some people. But the USA is usually a paradise by far comparison to other countries.

If you are american and represantive how they think it does not appear as non racist the roma in the video seem to be a family more women then males not thughs

 

[Mortimer]

Gypsy guy in the video acts very aggressive, we dont accept a such rudish behavior.

ps they do very well in L. America

He does not act aggressive that would be if he rioted or insulted others he just Films and comments the discrimination

 

[Litwin]

He does not act aggressive that would be if he rioted or insulted others he just Films and comments the discrimination

whatever,
1) you are not Black, are you dressing up as a Nigerian ?
2) Macedonia is A very problematic country
3) what do think ? maybe a reallocation of all Balkan Gypsies to Latin America is a solution ?

 

[ESay]

But as a moderate you should opposse it not accept it

First of all, I don't know the whole story. I don't understand what they were talking about and don't know what the opposing side might add.

If that was based on ethnic discrimination, then I oppose that. But for the record, I oppose all forms of discrimination, including so called 'positive discrimination' also. In the form of affirmative action, DEI, modern-day reparations etc.