Rewarding bad behavior

Ray From Cleveland

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Living in the Cleveland area, I'm a little upset over the city of Cleveland's settlement of 6 million dollars to the family of Tamir Rice.

Tamir was the 12 year old kid that a Cleveland police officer shot when he pulled out a realistic looking toy gun at the officer. The investigation found no wrong doing by the police and even had a Grand Jury trial for the shooting officer who was found within his rights of self-defense.

So why did a broke city--like Cleveland, make the mother of this kid an instant millionaire?

There is something terribly wrong with our legal system when we reward irresponsible and bad behavior. The claim here is that they gave this taxpayer cash away to avoid a much higher payout.

There shouldn't be any payout. Did the city really fear being held liable for a much larger amount, or is this all politics with fear of not being reelected if they did the right thing by protecting taxpayer money?

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/26/us/tamir-rice-family-cleveland-settlement.html?_r=0
 
OP- Good. Horrible incompetence, no warning it was a fake.

Nope, none at all. The dispatcher didn't tell the officers that it COULD be a fake gun. Not that it would have mattered. When a suspect pulls a gun on a police officer, they can't chance that it is a fake based on what a caller thought it might be.
 
Living in the Cleveland area, I'm a little upset over the city of Cleveland's settlement of 6 million dollars to the family of Tamir Rice.

Tamir was the 12 year old kid that a Cleveland police officer shot when he pulled out a realistic looking toy gun at the officer. The investigation found no wrong doing by the police and even had a Grand Jury trial for the shooting officer who was found within his rights of self-defense.

So why did a broke city--like Cleveland, make the mother of this kid an instant millionaire?

There is something terribly wrong with our legal system when we reward irresponsible and bad behavior. The claim here is that they gave this taxpayer cash away to avoid a much higher payout.

There shouldn't be any payout. Did the city really fear being held liable for a much larger amount, or is this all politics with fear of not being reelected if they did the right thing by protecting taxpayer money?

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/26/us/tamir-rice-family-cleveland-settlement.html?_r=0
No payout--no peace.
 
It's political. You wouldn't understand.

Correct. It is political. Then people can't figure out why Trump is kicking ass in the primaries.

We are sick of political. This is the results.

You want to stop rewarding bad behavior but Trump winning is good...

:banghead:
so what person running right now would be rewarding good behavior?....

That's not the point. The point is we are all sick of this politically correct crap direction we are in. We need more people like Trump to change the system we have. It's just like what happened in Florida with Travon Martin. Before the investigation was even over, the Home Owners association was already giving his mother all kinds of money. For what? They didn't do anything wrong!!!!

What we need in this country is a Loser Pays All law. That would stop many of these lawsuits and the threats of them as well. Wrongful death, same thing. Eliminate Wrongful Death liability. If a police officer or citizen eliminate the life of a scum, and it was investigated and found the citizen or officer did nothing wrong, you shouldn't be allowed to sue for anything; not one dime.
 
No payout--no peace.

Then you gun down tbe loons protesting/looting and instantly increase the city's average IQ by 15-20 points. How long will it take these people to comprehend..... Fuck with a cop, end up in a box.
I have no issue with it. Im just explaining why the city paid out millions of dollars to someone with no legal claim.
 
Living in the Cleveland area, I'm a little upset over the city of Cleveland's settlement of 6 million dollars to the family of Tamir Rice.

Tamir was the 12 year old kid that a Cleveland police officer shot when he pulled out a realistic looking toy gun at the officer. The investigation found no wrong doing by the police and even had a Grand Jury trial for the shooting officer who was found within his rights of self-defense.

So why did a broke city--like Cleveland, make the mother of this kid an instant millionaire?

There is something terribly wrong with our legal system when we reward irresponsible and bad behavior. The claim here is that they gave this taxpayer cash away to avoid a much higher payout.

There shouldn't be any payout. Did the city really fear being held liable for a much larger amount, or is this all politics with fear of not being reelected if they did the right thing by protecting taxpayer money?

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/26/us/tamir-rice-family-cleveland-settlement.html?_r=0


I can see several things the police got wrong while blowing that little kids shit away.

Starting with, pulling right up next to the kid, exposing the passenger side cop to what might be certain death in his mind, thus forcing the officer to act prematurely.
 
It's political. You wouldn't understand.

Correct. It is political. Then people can't figure out why Trump is kicking ass in the primaries.

We are sick of political. This is the results.

You want to stop rewarding bad behavior but Trump winning is good...

:banghead:

You are obsessed. This is not a thread about Trump. It is a thread about how nutbags don't care that a little boy playing in the park got blown away by an idiot.

You've been quiet on Carly, by the way. What gives?
 
Living in the Cleveland area, I'm a little upset over the city of Cleveland's settlement of 6 million dollars to the family of Tamir Rice.

Tamir was the 12 year old kid that a Cleveland police officer shot when he pulled out a realistic looking toy gun at the officer. The investigation found no wrong doing by the police and even had a Grand Jury trial for the shooting officer who was found within his rights of self-defense.

So why did a broke city--like Cleveland, make the mother of this kid an instant millionaire?

There is something terribly wrong with our legal system when we reward irresponsible and bad behavior. The claim here is that they gave this taxpayer cash away to avoid a much higher payout.

There shouldn't be any payout. Did the city really fear being held liable for a much larger amount, or is this all politics with fear of not being reelected if they did the right thing by protecting taxpayer money?

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/26/us/tamir-rice-family-cleveland-settlement.html?_r=0

Nice mischaracterization of what happened.
 
I have no issue with it. Im just explaining why the city paid out millions of dollars to someone with no legal claim.

I'd ask why they would do that, but I know it's due to our screwed up Legal system that refuses to throw out these baseless lawsuits.
 
I have no issue with it. Im just explaining why the city paid out millions of dollars to someone with no legal claim.

I'd ask why they would do that, but I know it's due to our screwed up Legal system that refuses to throw out these baseless lawsuits.
No you dont get it. The lawsuit was baseless. Everyone knew it. But if the city refused to pay up the Negroes would riot and it would cost much more. This is just hush money.
 
It's political. You wouldn't understand.

Correct. It is political. Then people can't figure out why Trump is kicking ass in the primaries.

We are sick of political. This is the results.

You want to stop rewarding bad behavior but Trump winning is good...

:banghead:
so what person running right now would be rewarding good behavior?....

That's not the point. The point is we are all sick of this politically correct crap direction we are in. We need more people like Trump to change the system we have. It's just like what happened in Florida with Travon Martin. Before the investigation was even over, the Home Owners association was already giving his mother all kinds of money. For what? They didn't do anything wrong!!!!

What we need in this country is a Loser Pays All law. That would stop many of these lawsuits and the threats of them as well. Wrongful death, same thing. Eliminate Wrongful Death liability. If a police officer or citizen eliminate the life of a scum, and it was investigated and found the citizen or officer did nothing wrong, you shouldn't be allowed to sue for anything; not one dime.

Trump isn't going to change the system. Name one part of the system that trump says he is going to change.

Only two candidates are trying to change the system. Bernie and Cruz. It's either socialism, constitutionalism,or the status quo.
 
It's political. You wouldn't understand.

Correct. It is political. Then people can't figure out why Trump is kicking ass in the primaries.

We are sick of political. This is the results.

You want to stop rewarding bad behavior but Trump winning is good...

:banghead:

You are obsessed. This is not a thread about Trump. It is a thread about how nutbags don't care that a little boy playing in the park got blown away by an idiot.

You've been quiet on Carly, by the way. What gives?

It's a thread about the evils of awarding bad behavior. Trump epitomizes that. Carly not so much
 
It's political. You wouldn't understand.

Correct. It is political. Then people can't figure out why Trump is kicking ass in the primaries.

We are sick of political. This is the results.

You want to stop rewarding bad behavior but Trump winning is good...

:banghead:
so what person running right now would be rewarding good behavior?....

That's not the point. The point is we are all sick of this politically correct crap direction we are in. We need more people like Trump to change the system we have. It's just like what happened in Florida with Travon Martin. Before the investigation was even over, the Home Owners association was already giving his mother all kinds of money. For what? They didn't do anything wrong!!!!

What we need in this country is a Loser Pays All law. That would stop many of these lawsuits and the threats of them as well. Wrongful death, same thing. Eliminate Wrongful Death liability. If a police officer or citizen eliminate the life of a scum, and it was investigated and found the citizen or officer did nothing wrong, you shouldn't be allowed to sue for anything; not one dime.
and i can agree with that.....so what does that have to do with what i asked avatar?...
 

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