Results of Today's (8/15/25) Summit

the dimocrap FILTH Party is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Chinese Communist Party.

Doubt me at your own peril
I know that. It's the reason they are so angry when Trump threatened them with high tariffs. Just about all watering carrying media for Democrats cheer for China.
 
Hey ace, China is a bigger threat than Russia. The world has changed.
As a 'threat'? Yes, China is a bigger 'threat'. But China has not done anything to us that I'm aware of. Some trade bullshit, some usual shenanigans. But nothing War-Like that I'm aware of. To us.

Historically, China has always been rather Non-Expansionist. The Middle Kingdom. The Land between Heaven and Earth. They've never even been explorers.

They're pretty happy staying home and tending to their own Rice Bowls.

Russia, OTOH, has been at the root cause of every single major problem the world has faced in the last 100 (One Hundred) years.

They were a problem when they ran away from the battlefield in WW1, they were a problem when they were Hitler's Allies for the first 2 years of WW2. They were a problem when they started the Korean War, when they funded, supplied and backed the Viet Nam War. When they backed Castro, Chavez, The Kim Klan, the myriad revolutions in Africa, South America, the MidEast, North Africa.... The entire world.

Russia is a problem. Russia has always been a problem. And until they are hurt, I mean hurt BAD, they will continue to be a problem

They have gotten away with their bullshit for far too long. Trump seems willing to confront them.

dimocrap scum won't. dimocrap scum are criminals and, as we all know, criminals are uniformly cowards. It's why they're criminals in the first place. They don't have the balls to do things the right way. And that's who makes up the bulk of the dimocrap scum party.... criminals.
 
We bring facts. Trump has been kissing Putin’s ass for a long, long time.

he campaigned for the friendship of the Russian dictator for 20 years.

He even offered Putin a $75 million bribe in the form of a condo in his dreamed of in Moscow.

Trump the candidate was well known to Moscow. Various Putin aligned oligarchs have laundered money through Trump condos since the 1980’s. Russian or Russian controlled banks held the mortgages on virtually all of Trump’s shady organization. They were well aware of Trump’s defaults, bankruptcies and litigation. They bailed Trump out of defaults several times.

He endorsed the invasion of Ukraine and has been trying to aid it for a decade.

Trump wants this summit. More than Putin does.

TACO chicken out on his plan to impose sanctions on Russia just a week ago.

Trump is playing Neville Chamberlain to Putin’s Hitler.

You bring nothing to the conversation other than Kremlin talking points.

It wasn't Trump that allowed a 'small incursion' into Ukraine and then bank rolled billions of US taxpayer money thru Ukraine to launder into DNC coffers over 4 years. 🤡
 
You're a bigger idiot if you believe Trump should do nothing like Biden.

By the way, Clinton said Trump deserves the Nobel prize if the peace deal can be reached.
What are you talking about? Biden was helping Ukraine, not throwing a democracy under the bus.
 
China said the entire South China Sea belongs to them. China has border dispute with all of their neighbors including Vlad. China is waiting for Vlad to die before they move in and seize the resource rich Siberian region.
Words mean nothing to me. They're just words.

If the Chinese can make some bullshit statements and frighten the weak of heart away... So what?

But they haven't done much of anything to us. Mao sent everything he had at us in Korea in 1950 and we slaughtered them by the bushel. Regardless of what the media says, we hurt them very badly and it wasn't just a bunch of poorly armed peasants, it was everything Mao had. China WANTED North Korea. They reasoned, legitimately, that if they could kick our asses out then Russia wouldn't try to take it back from them. Not sure Russia would have put up with that but I think they would have had to relinquish it to China. Local Brush War. Chinese neighbors. They tried their hand at expansionism and failed miserably

BTW, North Korea and North Viet Nam were both Russian Satellite countries. They were 'given' to Russia right after WW2, when the PRC didn't even exist yet.

Point being, China wants nothing to do with fighting us. Not now. Probably not ever.

First off, they'd have to get past South Korea and Japan. Two VERY formidable Powers. And that's not counting Taiwan. Who isn't exactly weak.

And if War did break out with us, Russia would amost certainly attack them from the West, Viet Nam from the South and don't forget about India. Who doesn't like China AT ALL.

China wants nothing to do with a shooting War with us. They would get trampled. Badly. Worse than even I could imagine. They get hit from 6 or 7 sides. And they have few natural resources.

The 'threat' from China is make believe. It just is.

A 'Proxy' War is possible but I'm not sure we'll fall that shit again
 
What are you talking about? Biden was helping Ukraine, not throwing a democracy under the bus.

Trump is also helping Ukraine or else, Ukraine would be gone by now although I am not sure how much is Vlad willing to test Trump had Trump do nothing.

Was Biden able to get Vlad to come to the table? No. Vlad literally gave the Biden administration the finger.
 
Trump is also helping Ukraine or else, Ukraine would be gone by now although I am not sure how much is Vlad willing to test Trump had Trump do nothing.

Was Biden able to get Vlad to come to the table? No. Vlad literally gave the Biden administration the finger.
If Trump was really helping Ukraine, the war would be over. I wonder what Putin has on him.
 
Words mean nothing to me. They're just words.

If the Chinese can make some bullshit statements and frighten the weak of heart away... So what?

But they haven't done much of anything to us. Mao sent everything he had at us in Korea in 1950 and we slaughtered them by the bushel. Regardless of what the media says, we hurt them very badly and it wasn't just a bunch of poorly armed peasants, it was everything Mao had. China WANTED North Korea. They reasoned, legitimately, that if they could kick our asses out then Russia wouldn't try to take it back from them. Not sure Russia would have put up with that but I think they would have had to relinquish it to China. Local Brush War. Chinese neighbors. They tried their hand at expansionism and failed miserably

BTW, North Korea and North Viet Nam were both Russian Satellite countries. They were 'given' to Russia right after WW2, when the PRC didn't even exist yet.

Point being, China wants nothing to do with fighting us. Not now. Probably not ever.

First off, they'd have to get past South Korea and Japan. Two VERY formidable Powers. And that's not counting Taiwan. Who isn't exactly weak.

And if War did break out with us, Russia would amost certainly attack them from the West, Viet Nam from the South and don't forget about India. Who doesn't like China AT ALL.

China wants nothing to do with a shooting War with us. They would get trampled. Badly. Worse than even I could imagine. They get hit from 6 or 7 sides. And they have few natural resources.

The 'threat' from China is make believe. It just is.

A 'Proxy' War is possible but I'm not sure we'll fall that shit again
They don't want to fight the US. News about Taiwan invasion are meant to throw off the attention on China's real motive and that is Siberia. If China invades Siberia, the world would say ok and move on. If China invades Taiwan, it's gonna involve lots of parties.

Taiwan
US
S. Korea
Japan
Philippines
Australia
UK
India

China cannot win. Siberia is easier and it's the grand prize because of water and very rich in resources.
 
Trump is also helping Ukraine or else, Ukraine would be gone by now although I am not sure how much is Vlad willing to test Trump had Trump do nothing.

Was Biden able to get Vlad to come to the table? No. Vlad literally gave the Biden administration the finger.
Few Americans understand something important about Russia....

They don't have any Warm water ports outisde of Vladivostock. And calling that a Warm Water port is a bit of stretch.

Think about it. Name me some Warm Warm Water Ports that Russia has?

While we have hundreds, if not thousands, of them. Russian has -- Somewhere around zero to 1.

They want Crimea. It was theirs for a long time anyway. We need to tell Zelenskyy to just give it up, or else.

I think Putin will take it, go home and call it a win for his team
 
15th post

(1). Putin agrees to a 30 day temporary cease fire. Trump, speaking for Ukraine, agrees. Start of ceasefire to be soon, but not immediate. Both sides will attack conspicuously during the short wait before the ceasefire.
(2). Second session, including Ukraine reps, will be scheduled. If it can't be scheduled during the initial ceasefire, the ceasefire will be extended.

That's it.

You read it here first.
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We already threatened to pull funding. Other countries stepped up and said they would. We should have let them and stepped out.

We sadly think we must control everything.
We should have stepped out but the funding we are giving them is more than the other nations were offering combined.

I would have preferred a ceasefire date, because then there is a drop dead time. This is just fluff and until something concrete happens it means nothing.
 
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