Republicans need to learn how to make a Budget Deal, but will they? (Poll)

[kyzr]

All this stuff in California is to distract us from this monstrosity of a bill. California is also to distract us from what Elon said. Stay focused. Trump's economy sucks.

1. The BBB is the Republican Holy Grail, it has a lot of really great things in it.

2. The stuff in CA is about "sanctuary cities and states" vs immigration law. ICE needs to be able to round up and deport illegals without being interfered with.

3. Elon says a lot of things. I assume you mean that the BBB needs to be stopped?

4. Trump's economy is chugging along, and will only get better as the Fed cuts interest rates 3x this year. Inflation is 2.3%, GDP for the 2nd quarter was 3.8%, tariff negotiations are proceeding, life and the US economy is good.

 

[sealybobo]

1. The BBB is the Republican Holy Grail, it has a lot of really great things in it.

2. The stuff in CA is about "sanctuary cities and states" vs immigration law. ICE needs to be able to round up and deport illegals without being interfered with.

3. Elon says a lot of things. I assume you mean that the BBB needs to be stopped?

4. Trump's economy is chugging along, and will only get better as the Fed cuts interest rates 3x this year. Inflation is 2.3%, GDP for the 2nd quarter was 3.8%, tariff negotiations are proceeding, life and the US economy is good.

Trump's economy is no better than Biden's. Biden's economy, if you forgot, was great for anyone making over, let's say, $80,000 a year. We got inflation raises. The one group hurting Trump promised to fix the economy for was uneducated blue collar workers.

You'll see. In the end, Trump's numbers will be worse, the same or only slightly better than Biden's numbers. But you'll never admit Biden's economy was great. But if Trump has the same economy, boy you'll say America is great again won't you?

 

[sealybobo]

1. The BBB is the Republican Holy Grail, it has a lot of really great things in it.

2. The stuff in CA is about "sanctuary cities and states" vs immigration law. ICE needs to be able to round up and deport illegals without being interfered with.

3. Elon says a lot of things. I assume you mean that the BBB needs to be stopped?

4. Trump's economy is chugging along, and will only get better as the Fed cuts interest rates 3x this year. Inflation is 2.3%, GDP for the 2nd quarter was 3.8%, tariff negotiations are proceeding, life and the US economy is good.

Do you know there was no better time to get a promotion or raise than during the Biden years? So if you still make the same as you did then, you're a fucking idiot

Google the Great Resignation. Did you apply for your bosses job when he retired?

From 2019 to 2022, the median net worth of American families jumped 37% to $192,900, after adjusting for inflation. It’s the largest increase ever recorded by the federal Survey of Consumer Finances, released last fall. Surging home values and rising stock ownership fed the surge.

 

[kyzr]

Trump's economy is no better than Biden's. Biden's economy, if you forgot, was great for anyone making over, let's say, $80,000 a year. We got inflation raises. The one group hurting Trump promised to fix the economy for was uneducated blue collar workers.
You'll see. In the end, Trump's numbers will be worse, the same or only slightly better than Biden's numbers. But you'll never admit Biden's economy was great. But if Trump has the same economy, boy you'll say America is great again won't you?

Trump's economy is just getting started. Biden's economy was a disaster, US families got crushed by inflation, they lost $11,400 a year in buying power.

Americans need an extra $11,400 today just to afford the basics, Republican analysis finds

Compared with 2021, the typical household must spend an additional $11,434 annually just to maintain their standard of living, analysis shows.

www.cbsnews.com

We will track how people are doing compared to inflation and tariffs.

New projection signals good news for families, workers in Trump's 'big, beautiful bill'

The White House Council of Economic Advisers has released new taxpayer savings projections for President Donald Trump's "big, beautiful bill."

www.foxnews.com

The Council of Economic Advisers says family take-home pay will be $7,800 to $13,300 higher​

We'll see how your "opinions" work out compared to the "Advisors" projections.

 

[sealybobo]

Trump's economy is just getting started. Biden's economy was a disaster, US families got crushed by inflation, they lost $11,400 a year in buying power.

Americans need an extra $11,400 today just to afford the basics, Republican analysis finds

Compared with 2021, the typical household must spend an additional $11,434 annually just to maintain their standard of living, analysis shows.

www.cbsnews.com

We will track how people are doing compared to inflation and tariffs.

New projection signals good news for families, workers in Trump's 'big, beautiful bill'

The White House Council of Economic Advisers has released new taxpayer savings projections for President Donald Trump's "big, beautiful bill."

www.foxnews.com

The Council of Economic Advisers says family take-home pay will be $7,800 to $13,300 higher​

We'll see how your "opinions" work out compared to the "Advisors" projections.

Families all over the globe got crushed by inflation. It was Biden's fault?

Widespread Monthly Declines: In April 2025, over 60% of U.S. counties saw month-over-month declines in home values.

But on Biden's watch From 2019 to 2022, the median net worth of American families jumped 37% to $192,900, after adjusting for inflation. It’s the largest increase ever recorded by the federal Survey of Consumer Finances, released last fall. Surging home values and rising stock ownership fed the surge.

Didn't our 401K's take a huge dump because of Trump's tariffs? Are we out of that hole he put us in yet? And our homes aren't worth what they were. Way to go Donald Trump.

 

[kyzr]

Do you know there was no better time to get a promotion or raise than during the Biden years? So if you still make the same as you did then, you're a fucking idiot. Google the Great Resignation. Did you apply for your bosses job when he retired?

I'm retired. My kid's bosses didn't retire.

From 2019 to 2022, the median net worth of American families jumped 37% to $192,900, after adjusting for inflation. It’s the largest increase ever recorded by the federal Survey of Consumer Finances, released last fall. Surging home values and rising stock ownership fed the surge.

Biden's term didn't start until 2021, and his term was 2021-2024, so 2019-2022 doesn't mean anything.

 

[sealybobo]

I'm retired. My kid's bosses didn't retire.

Biden's term didn't start until 2021, and his term was 2021-2024, so 2019-2022 doesn't mean anything.

Sure it doesn't.

 

[kyzr]

Families all over the globe got crushed by inflation. It was Biden's fault?

Here in the US Biden's reckless spending caused inflation.

Widespread Monthly Declines: In April 2025, over 60% of U.S. counties saw month-over-month declines in home values.
But on Biden's watch From 2019 to 2022, the median net worth of American families jumped 37% to $192,900, after adjusting for inflation. It’s the largest increase ever recorded by the federal Survey of Consumer Finances, released last fall. Surging home values and rising stock ownership fed the surge.

Bullshit. Home values are increasing. The 2019-2022 net worth proves nothing, Biden's term was 2021-2024.

Housing Market Predictions For 2025: When Will Home Prices Drop?

The much-anticipated spring home-buying season has largely been dying on the vine as cautious consumers continue to navigate record-high home prices, elevated mortgage rates and a murky economic landscape. Even so, some green shoots have emerged, as various regions are seeing slower home price gr

www.forbes.com

The much-anticipated spring home-buying season has largely been dying on the vine as cautious consumers continue to navigate record-high home prices, elevated mortgage rates and a murky economic landscape.
Even so, some green shoots have emerged, as various regions are seeing slower home price growth alongside rising inventory, which is subtly shifting the market in favor of buyers.

Didn't our 401K's take a huge dump because of Trump's tariffs? Are we out of that hole he put us in yet? And our homes aren't worth what they were. Way to go Donald Trump.

The markets all recovered, duh.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I'm retired. My kid's bosses didn't retire.

Biden's term didn't start until 2021, and his term was 2021-2024, so 2019-2022 doesn't mean anything.

Sure it does.

Your opinion sure doesn't.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Here in the US Biden's reckless spending caused inflation.

Bullshit. Home values are increasing. The 2019-2022 net worth proves nothing, Biden's term was 2021-2024.

Housing Market Predictions For 2025: When Will Home Prices Drop?

The much-anticipated spring home-buying season has largely been dying on the vine as cautious consumers continue to navigate record-high home prices, elevated mortgage rates and a murky economic landscape. Even so, some green shoots have emerged, as various regions are seeing slower home price gr

www.forbes.com

The much-anticipated spring home-buying season has largely been dying on the vine as cautious consumers continue to navigate record-high home prices, elevated mortgage rates and a murky economic landscape.
Even so, some green shoots have emerged, as various regions are seeing slower home price growth alongside rising inventory, which is subtly shifting the market in favor of buyers.


The markets all recovered, duh.

For now. Let's see what TACO does.

I am glad he chickened out.

 

[AntonToo]

GDP for the 2nd quarter was 3.8%

Bullshit.

Q2 numbers are not out, will be published June 26th.

Gross Domestic Product | U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA)

www.bea.gov

They will more than likely be higher for the same reason Q1(-0.2%) was lower (inventory reactions to Trump's crazy tariff back and forth), but overall GDP growth is slow.

 

[kyzr]

Bullshit. Q2 numbers are not out, will be published June 26th.

GDPNow

Provides a

www.atlantafed.org

The Atlanta Fed says otherwise, 3.8% (Estimated)

They will more than likely be higher for the same reason Q1(-0.2%) was lower (inventory reactions to Trump's crazy tariff back and forth), but overall GDP growth is slow.

Look for that Q1 number to be revised upward.

 

[AntonToo]

https://deepnewz.com/economics/atlanta-fed-gdpnow-lifts-q2-2025-u-s-growth-forecast-to-3-8-2-2-on-net-exports-cd30b04b

The Atlanta Fed says otherwise, 3.8% (Estimated)

You don't know what you are talking about.

Gold standard GDP numbers are provided by the BEA.

Gross Domestic Product | U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA)

www.bea.gov

Atlanta Fed GDPnow model is much more volatile and was showing -2.5% for Q1 on April 29th.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Probably not.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Probably not.

 

[AntonToo]

Look for that Q1 number to be revised upward.

Fool, the Q1 number was already revised.

Read the BEA link.

 

[kyzr]

You don't know what you are talking about.
Gold standard GDP numbers are provided by the BEA.
Atlanta Fed GDPnow model is much more volatile and was showing -2.5% for Q1 on April 29th.

Fair enough, we can wait for the real Q2 GDP. But until the tariffs are agreed to they are all subject to revision.
Point being the Q2 GDP shouldn't be negative indicating a recession.
Trump's tariff negotiations are putting "uncertainty" into the mix.

 

[AntonToo]

Fair enough, we can wait for the real Q2 GDP. But until the tariffs are agreed to they are all subject to revision.
Point being the Q2 GDP shouldn't be negative indicating a recession.
Trump's tariff negotiations are putting "uncertainty" into the mix.

Thats your standard of a good economy?

Let me also remind you, Trump's crazy April tarrifs are on hold after brief go-live, so we wouldn't even see much in terms of the full scale of their effects.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

kyzr said:
GDP for the 2nd quarter was 3.8%


Horse shit. It was about -. 2% or -.3%.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

kyzr said:
GDP for the 2nd quarter was 3.8%


Horse scat. It was about -. 2% or -.3%.