Removing Short Barreled Rifles/Shotguns from the NFA (Short Act) is back into the BBB!

[1srelluc]

That is in addition to taking suppressors off the NFA.....Let Freedom Ring!

 

[Manonthestreet]

Aren't short barreled rifles carbines

 

[1srelluc]

Aren't short barreled rifles carbines

No, just guns.

 

[pknopp]

It shouldn't need to be in a bill. We have the right to own guns but it's another thing that will sink the bill. It has nothing to do with the budget.

 

[mudwhistle]

It shouldn't need to be in a bill. We have the right to own guns but it's another thing that will sink the bill. It has nothing to do with the budget.

Suppressors are great for improving accuracy in close....and it makes it better for home defense....cuz shooting your weapon without hearing protection won't make you lose your hearing.

It's a safety issue after all. No PPE needed.

 

[JGalt]

This is good.

 

[JGalt]

It shouldn't need to be in a bill. We have the right to own guns but it's another thing that will sink the bill. It has nothing to do with the budget.

We must pass the bill to see what's in it.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Suppressors are great for improving accuracy in close....and it makes it better for home defense....cuz shooting your weapon without hearing protection won't make you lose your hearing.

It's a safety issue after all. No PPE needed.

There are very few suppressors which provide hearing safe levels of protection - some maybe wet or using a wipe - certainly not any caliber of consequence or a round which has been downloaded or over-grained to reach subsonic velocities.

 

[mudwhistle]

There are very few suppressors which provide hearing safe levels of protection - some maybe wet or using a wipe - certainly not any caliber of consequence or a round which has been downloaded or over-grained to reach subsonic velocities.

Sorry, but I've used some that did.

I'm not saying that they make them sound like a BB gun....but it makes them shoot like one.

We used suppressors on MP5s and they were highly effective. 9mms aren't very loud when suppressed.

At any rate....when you're wakened by an intruder at least it won't make you deaf if you have to bust a few caps.

 

[1srelluc]

It shouldn't need to be in a bill. We have the right to own guns but it's another thing that will sink the bill. It has nothing to do with the budget.

Meh, it's not like dems would vote for it anyway.

 

[pknopp]

Meh, it's not like dems would vote for it anyway.

They don't have to if its in the budget bill. That it is, it will be removed or enough (R)'s won't be voting for it either.

 

[1srelluc]

They don't have to if its in the budget bill. That it is, it will be removed or enough (R)'s won't be voting for it either.

I'd not hold my breath if I were you.

 

[M14 Shooter]

From what I understand, only the $200 tax will be repealed - you will still need to register your SBR, etc.

Long ago, Democrats legally and judicially framed the NFA as a tax rather than a regulatory measure, with its primary intent to produce revenue. As such, the repeal of the tax, as I understand it, can be done through budgetary reconciliation measures not subject to a filibuster.

Thanks, boys.

And kudos to the senate for -widening- the provision sent to it by the house, which only specified suppressors.

 

[Zincwarrior]

That is in addition to taking suppressors off the NFA.....Let Freedom Ring!

There is no victory here until it is passed in both houses and signed by the President. The cynic in me thinks this is still a bargaining chip.

 

[1srelluc]

There is no victory here until it is passed in both houses and signed by the President. The cynic in me thinks this is still a bargaining chip.

I'm with you on that. The gope is no more bothered about our 2A freedoms than the dems are.

 

[M14 Shooter]

There is no victory here until it is passed in both houses and signed by the President.

Only the Republicans can stop the passage of the bill.

 

[westwall]

There are very few suppressors which provide hearing safe levels of protection - some maybe wet or using a wipe - certainly not any caliber of consequence or a round which has been downloaded or over-grained to reach subsonic velocities.

You should have said there are few suppressors that give movie level reductions in sound level, but MOST suppressors today drop the dB down to hearing safe levels. At least for the person behind it.

I regularly shoot 7.62x51 NATO out of multiple platforms, with a Yankee Hill titanium suppressor, and don't need hearing protection.

 

[M14 Shooter]

You should have said there are few suppressors that give movie level reductions in sound level, but MOST suppressors today drop the dB down to hearing safe levels. At least for the person behind it.
I regularly shoot 7.62x51 NATO out of multiple platforms, with a Yankee Hill titanium suppressor, and don't need hearing protection.

Most suppressors bring the sound down to 130-135dB. That's still pretty loud

 

[Zincwarrior]

Only the Republicans can stop the passage of the bill.

Yes. As noted by #15, that historically has not meant much.

 

[1srelluc]

You should have said there are few suppressors that give movie level reductions in sound level, but MOST suppressors today drop the dB down to hearing safe levels. At least for the person behind it.

I regularly shoot 7.62x51 NATO out of multiple platforms, with a Yankee Hill titanium suppressor, and don't need hearing protection.

If it passes I'm getting a YHM Resonator R2 for my Ruger .308.....Just because.