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Supreme Court allows White House to press social media companies to remove disinformation


The Supreme Court on Wednesday said the White House and federal agencies such as the FBI may continue to urge social media platforms to take down content the government views as misinformation, handing the Biden administration a technical if important election-year victory.

Of immediate significance, the decision means that the Department of Homeland Security may continue to flag posts to social media companies such as Facebook and X that it believes may be the work of foreign agents seeking to disrupt this year’s presidential race.

Biden administration officials have for years tried to persuade social media platforms to take down posts featuring misinformation about vaccines, the Covid-19 pandemic and the 2020 election, among other things. Many of those posts, the government has said, ran afoul of the platforms’ own stated policies.

Republican officials in two states – Missouri and Louisiana – and five social media users sued over that practice in 2022, arguing that the White House did far more than “persuade” the tech giants to take down a few deceptive items. Instead, they said, the Biden administration engaged in an informal, backdoor campaign of coercion to silence voices it disagreed with – a practice known as “jawboning.”

They pointed to the decision by social media companies to suppress coverage of Hunter Biden’s laptop in late 2020 as evidence of unconstitutional government influence. But internal communications related to Twitter’s handling of the laptop story highlighted how high-level company officials were divided on whether to suppress coverage of the story, contrary to suggestions by some critics that the platform demoted it because of government pressure.


It showed employees on Twitter’s legal, policy and communications teams debating – and at times disagreeing – over whether to restrict the article under the company’s hacked materials policy, weeks before the 2020 election, where Joe Biden, Hunter Biden’s father, ran against then-President Donald Trump.

The matter pretty much blew up in House Repub's faces but of course that isn't how trump supporters appear to remember it. Since them Zuck has changed his tune on the issue. How else to get a front row seat at the inauguration (besides making a donation to it along with settling suit with Don to massage his scrotum).

It's a complex issue not given to simplistic talking points.

My students are undergraduates, some of whom will become journalists. Before they leave the confines of their small liberal-arts college, they will develop a more complicated view of politics and the media than the one they started with. The adult world they are entering, however, generally sticks to an elemental level of discourse. Last week, for example, the head of the country’s largest media company, Mark Zuckerberg, of Facebook, gave a nearly forty-minute lecture in which he reiterated that the right to free speech was invented so that it wouldn’t be restricted. In Zuckerberg’s narrative, as my colleague Andrew Marantz has written, freedom of speech, guaranteed by technological progress, is the beginning and the end of the conversation; this narrative willfully leaves out the damage that technological progress—and unchallenged freedom of all speech—can inflict. But the problem isn’t just Zuckerberg; more precisely, Zuckerberg is symptomatic of our collective refusal to think about speech and the media in complicated ways.

“People having the power to express themselves at scale is a new kind of force in the world,” Zuckerberg said in his address. “It’s a fifth estate, alongside the other power structures in our society.” Zuckerberg was appropriating a countercultural term: beginning in the nineteen-sixties, “the fifth estate” referred to alternative media in the United States. Now the head of a new-media monopoly was using the term to differentiate Facebook from the news media, presumably to bolster his argument that Facebook should not be held to the same standards of civic responsibility to which we hold the fourth estate.

 
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I don't know what your point is. It is no surprise that large numbers of Leftists work for social media companies, and being habitual liars, it is no surprise at all that they pushed for politically-advantageous content, even if they knew that it was false or misleading.

That's like marveling at the fact that a lot of Federal government employees hate Trump's policies. Knock me over with a feather.
 
I don't know what your point is. It is no surprise that large numbers of Leftists work for social media companies, and being habitual liars, it is no surprise at all that they pushed for politically-advantageous content, even if they knew that it was false or misleading.

That's like marveling at the fact that a lot of Federal government employees hate Trump's policies. Knock me over with a feather.
You just illustrated the point with that horseshit post.
 

The Taibbi posts undercut a top claim by Musk and Republicans, who have accused the FBI of leaning on social media companies to suppress the Hunter Biden laptop stories.

Musk tweeted Friday night, amid the Taibbi posts, that Twitter had acted “under orders from the government.”

Taibbi said in his series of tweets that “there is no evidence - that I’ve seen - of any government involvement in the laptop story.”
 
. . . and if she didn't? You will immediately stahp voting blu, right?

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Since the video was so short neither of us know whether she corrected herself right afterwards. If you think I would change my party affiliation because of a verbal gaffe........think again.
 

Lawyers for Facebook parent company Meta have made similar comments in recent weeks, disputing claims from Republicans that the FBI coerced Facebook to suppress the laptop stories.

Taibbi said the material he reviewed referenced general FBI warnings about potential attempted Russian interference in the elections, which also dovetails with Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg’s public account of Facebook’s handling of the New York Post story and affirms how Twitter was on high alert for possible foreign meddling.
 
Lawyers for Facebook parent company Meta have made similar comments in recent weeks, disputing claims from Republicans that the FBI coerced Facebook to suppress the laptop stories.

Taibbi said the material he reviewed referenced general FBI warnings about potential attempted Russian interference in the elections, which also dovetails with Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg’s public account of Facebook’s handling of the New York Post story and affirms how Twitter was on high alert for possible foreign meddling.


Yeah, the FBI put out the warning, knowing the NY Post story was about to drop, then you get the 52 liars put out the letter claiming the laptop story had all the earmarks of Russian disinformation, when their real intent was to give xiden a talking point for the debate. I'm sure you're dumb enough to believe it was all just a coincidence, RIGHT?

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Since the video was so short neither of us know whether she corrected herself right afterwards. If you think I would change my party affiliation because of a verbal gaffe........think again.
Go on then, watch the full.

:rolleyes:

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Supreme Court allows White House to press social media companies to remove disinformation


The Supreme Court on Wednesday said the White House and federal agencies such as the FBI may continue to urge social media platforms to take down content the government views as misinformation, handing the Biden administration a technical if important election-year victory.

Of immediate significance, the decision means that the Department of Homeland Security may continue to flag posts to social media companies such as Facebook and X that it believes may be the work of foreign agents seeking to disrupt this year’s presidential race.

Biden administration officials have for years tried to persuade social media platforms to take down posts featuring misinformation about vaccines, the Covid-19 pandemic and the 2020 election, among other things. Many of those posts, the government has said, ran afoul of the platforms’ own stated policies.

Republican officials in two states – Missouri and Louisiana – and five social media users sued over that practice in 2022, arguing that the White House did far more than “persuade” the tech giants to take down a few deceptive items. Instead, they said, the Biden administration engaged in an informal, backdoor campaign of coercion to silence voices it disagreed with – a practice known as “jawboning.”

They pointed to the decision by social media companies to suppress coverage of Hunter Biden’s laptop in late 2020 as evidence of unconstitutional government influence. But internal communications related to Twitter’s handling of the laptop story highlighted how high-level company officials were divided on whether to suppress coverage of the story, contrary to suggestions by some critics that the platform demoted it because of government pressure.


It showed employees on Twitter’s legal, policy and communications teams debating – and at times disagreeing – over whether to restrict the article under the company’s hacked materials policy, weeks before the 2020 election, where Joe Biden, Hunter Biden’s father, ran against then-President Donald Trump.

The matter pretty much blew up in House Repub's faces but of course that isn't how trump supporters appear to remember it. Since them Zuck has changed his tune on the issue. How else to get a front row seat at the inauguration (besides making a donation to it along with settling suit with Don to massage his scrotum).

It's a complex issue not given to simplistic talking points.

My students are undergraduates, some of whom will become journalists. Before they leave the confines of their small liberal-arts college, they will develop a more complicated view of politics and the media than the one they started with. The adult world they are entering, however, generally sticks to an elemental level of discourse. Last week, for example, the head of the country’s largest media company, Mark Zuckerberg, of Facebook, gave a nearly forty-minute lecture in which he reiterated that the right to free speech was invented so that it wouldn’t be restricted. In Zuckerberg’s narrative, as my colleague Andrew Marantz has written, freedom of speech, guaranteed by technological progress, is the beginning and the end of the conversation; this narrative willfully leaves out the damage that technological progress—and unchallenged freedom of all speech—can inflict. But the problem isn’t just Zuckerberg; more precisely, Zuckerberg is symptomatic of our collective refusal to think about speech and the media in complicated ways.

“People having the power to express themselves at scale is a new kind of force in the world,” Zuckerberg said in his address. “It’s a fifth estate, alongside the other power structures in our society.” Zuckerberg was appropriating a countercultural term: beginning in the nineteen-sixties, “the fifth estate” referred to alternative media in the United States. Now the head of a new-media monopoly was using the term to differentiate Facebook from the news media, presumably to bolster his argument that Facebook should not be held to the same standards of civic responsibility to which we hold the fourth estate.

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CNN....?
 
So much for her oath to support and defend the Constitution.

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Are you sure you want to go there considering trump plotted to steal the 2020 election?
 
Are you sure you want to go there considering trump plotted to steal the 2020 election?


Are you sure you want to derail your thread with off topic posts? I could go there but you'd forfeit your right to bitch about it.

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Are you sure you want to derail your thread with off topic posts? I could go there but you'd forfeit your right to bitch about it.

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About what? The Big Lie?
 
I don't know what your point is. It is no surprise that large numbers of Leftists work for social media companies, and being habitual liars, it is no surprise at all that they pushed for politically-advantageous content, even if they knew that it was false or misleading.

That's like marveling at the fact that a lot of Federal government employees hate Trump's policies. Knock me over with a feather.
Government speech doctrine holds that government is at liberty to express viewpoints and opinions absent viewpoint neutrality.

Government is at liberty to express the opinion that certain social media content is harmful disinformation and lies; social media platforms are at liberty to reject the government’s opinion and continue to post disinformation and lies.

The free speech of social media platform is not ‘violated’ when government expresses its concerns about online disinformation to social media platforms and requests that disinformation be flagged or removed.

Of course, dishonest rightists will continue to lie that government speech in opposition to disinformation ‘violates’ free speech – it does not.
 
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