Remember? We told you minimum wage cost jobs!

[HenryBHough]

The robot was coming because it is cheaper than any wage, minimum or not, in the long run.

The union has always argued that this is the cost of automation: who is going to buy the product.

And, unlike you children "working" at burger joints, robots are never known to have spit on anyone's bun! Bring on the 'bots!

 

[NYcarbineer]

We told you minimum wage cost jobs!

What complete nonsense

.... it got the robot a job didn't it?

What wage would have kept the robot out?

 

[GHook93]

Our American factory workers can't compete with Mexicans doing the same job for less than $4 per hour anymore than our minimum wage workers can against robots. Add to that, Mexico factories don't have the unions to deal with and Mexican has trade agreements with more countries than anybody. You just know the way things are headed we'll end up like an Atlantic City casino.

That is so not necessarily true. See US manufacturing competitiveness on a rebound.


China vs. the U.S.: It's Just as Cheap to Make Goods in the USA


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[JakeStarkey]

The robot was coming because it is cheaper than any wage, minimum or not, in the long run.

The union has always argued that this is the cost of automation: who is going to buy the product.

And, unlike you children "working" at burger joints, robots are never known to have spit on anyone's bun! Bring on the 'bots!

I have no problem with robots, just stating the facts.

 

[NightFox]

What complete nonsense

.... it got the robot a job didn't it?

No, it didn't, because you can't tell us at what wage a human would have to work to keep the job.

Sorry to intrude on your reality distortion field but Just because you're too stupid to figure that out doesn't mean everybody else is, a human keeps the job when his/her total cost of production is lower than that of the automation that is being proposed to replace him/her; once you progressive idiots put a gun to the head of business and force the cost of human labor beyond that point the unfortunate victim of your stupidity gets to enjoy an earned wage of ZERO, way to go.

So what is the cost per hour of the robot in the OP?

Lower than the "cost per hour" of a human doing the same thing genius, otherwise the business wouldn't have invested in the robot.

Hopefully the people that you and your progressive pals put out of work through your idiotic policy prescriptions can somehow figure out how to develop the necessary skills to design, engineer, build or sell robots, but given the fact that you've managed to completely fuck up our education system I seriously doubt most of them will.

OK, so how little would a person have to work for to compete with the burger robot?

Stop dodging the question.

ROFLMAO! nobody is "dodging the question" you're just too stupid to understand the answer... go back and keep reading it over and over again until either :

a.) a miracle occurs and you manage to scrape up enough common sense to differentiate the real world from that fantasy world you normally exist in.
b.) your remaining neuron dies of exhaustion

whichever comes first.

 

[NYcarbineer]

No, it didn't, because you can't tell us at what wage a human would have to work to keep the job.

Sorry to intrude on your reality distortion field but Just because you're too stupid to figure that out doesn't mean everybody else is, a human keeps the job when his/her total cost of production is lower than that of the automation that is being proposed to replace him/her; once you progressive idiots put a gun to the head of business and force the cost of human labor beyond that point the unfortunate victim of your stupidity gets to enjoy an earned wage of ZERO, way to go.

So what is the cost per hour of the robot in the OP?

Lower than the "cost per hour" of a human doing the same thing genius, otherwise the business wouldn't have invested in the robot.

Hopefully the people that you and your progressive pals put out of work through your idiotic policy prescriptions can somehow figure out how to develop the necessary skills to design, engineer, build or sell robots, but given the fact that you've managed to completely fuck up our education system I seriously doubt most of them will.

OK, so how little would a person have to work for to compete with the burger robot?

Stop dodging the question.

ROFLMAO! nobody is "dodging the question" you're just too stupid to understand the answer... go back and keep reading it over and over again until either :

a.) a miracle occurs and you manage to scrape up enough common sense to differentiate the real world from that fantasy world you normally exist in.
b.) your remaining neuron dies of exhaustion

whichever comes first.

You claimed the minimum wage got the robot the job.

So tell us how low the wage would have to be for a human to keep the job.

 

[Skull Pilot]

We told you minimum wage cost jobs!

What complete nonsense

.... it got the robot a job didn't it?

No, it didn't, because you can't tell us at what wage a human would have to work to keep the job.

robot never calls in sick
never talks back
never steals from the company
never takes vacations
will work 24 hours a day

and you still want to hire a person?

So it's not about the minimum wage at all. Why aren't you telling the OP that? He's the one claiming otherwise.

you don't think one robot would in the long run be cheaper than the 3 or more employees it could replace?
now factor in the push for a 15 an hour MW and rerun the math

I think the robot burger flipper would be cheaper

 

[NYcarbineer]

We told you minimum wage cost jobs!

What complete nonsense

.... it got the robot a job didn't it?

No, it didn't, because you can't tell us at what wage a human would have to work to keep the job.

robot never calls in sick
never talks back
never steals from the company
never takes vacations
will work 24 hours a day

and you still want to hire a person?

So it's not about the minimum wage at all. Why aren't you telling the OP that? He's the one claiming otherwise.

you don't think one robot would in the long run be cheaper than the 3 or more employees it could replace?
now factor in the push for a 15 an hour MW and rerun the math

I think the robot burger flipper would be cheaper

Is it impossible for you to admit that the OP, and others, like Nightfox, are full of shit here?

Why is that?

 

[Skull Pilot]

What complete nonsense

.... it got the robot a job didn't it?

No, it didn't, because you can't tell us at what wage a human would have to work to keep the job.

robot never calls in sick
never talks back
never steals from the company
never takes vacations
will work 24 hours a day

and you still want to hire a person?

So it's not about the minimum wage at all. Why aren't you telling the OP that? He's the one claiming otherwise.

you don't think one robot would in the long run be cheaper than the 3 or more employees it could replace?
now factor in the push for a 15 an hour MW and rerun the math

I think the robot burger flipper would be cheaper

Is it impossible for you to admit that the OP, and others, like Nightfox, are full of shit here?

Why is that?

why won't you ever answer any of my questions

factoring in all the variables is a robot burger flipper cheaper in the long run than the employees it would replace?

you know the answer is yes but you just can't bring yourself to say it

 

[dannyboys]

What our "leaders" don't have the balls to admit is that automation and technology will almost certainly lead to a massive overall decrease in the need for humans and, most likely, some kind of universal income.

The only question is how long it will take that to happen, and how many people will fall through the cracks as we wait.
.

"Universal income" is code for "people who have jobs will be paying for people who don't have jobs".
If you're truly interested in witnessing what life is soon going to be like when the 'Makers' aren't 'making' enough money to forestall the coming US financial collapse of life as we all expected it to be please spend a few weeks in rural China.
No shit!
With the explosion of robotics doing 90% of all low skilled jobs in a decade and the explosion of millions of semi-literate kids being 'streamed' through Liberal Indoctrination Centers only to face a life knowing they will NEVER EVER have a decent stable good paying job something has got to give.
If I were into investing anymore I'd be buying shares in manufacturing business in India and China cranking out millions of shovels, pickaxes and garden hoes. And buying large quantities of common hearty garden vegetable seeds.
The days of tens of thousands of these semi-literates 'snowflakes' saying: "Fuck it! I can't get a decent job! I might as well enroll in a 'Vanity College' spend four years learning how medieval footwear was made and party my ass off while racking up $80K in Government guaranteed loans"...........IS QUICKLY COMING TO AN END!!!!

 

[NightFox]

why won't you ever answer any of my questions

LOL, He's too busy attempting to perfect his Forrest Gump version of the Socratic Method.

The bright side is that it's mildly humorous for the first few seconds.

 

[Skull Pilot]

why won't you ever answer any of my questions

LOL, He's too busy attempting to perfect his Forrest Gump version of the Socratic Method.

The bright side is that it's mildly humorous for the first few seconds.

I always thought NY was a woman for some reason

 

[NightFox]

why won't you ever answer any of my questions

LOL, He's too busy attempting to perfect his Forrest Gump version of the Socratic Method.

The bright side is that it's mildly humorous for the first few seconds.

I always thought NY was a woman for some reason

Could be, based on it's comprehension and reasoning ability, I would have guessed a 5 year old with a heavy methylphenidate monkey on it's back.....

 

[Auld Phart]

why won't you ever answer any of my questions

LOL, He's too busy attempting to perfect his Forrest Gump version of the Socratic Method.

The bright side is that it's mildly humorous for the first few seconds.

I always thought NY was a woman for some reason

Because of the skinny jeans?

 

[The Original Tree]

We told you minimum wage cost jobs!

What complete nonsense

.... it got the robot a job didn't it?

What wage would have kept the robot out?

Apparently somewhere around $8 an hour.

 

[my2¢]

Thinking out of the box, why must the desire always be for higher wages rather than lowering the cost of a livable wage? Is it because the government would get less of a share? Beats me but it seems to me going this alternative route would help everybody, not just low wage earners. Perhaps an economist in the group can explain the fear of deflation to me, meanwhile I'll investigate.

 

[healthmyths]

We told you minimum wage cost jobs!

What complete nonsense

.... it got the robot a job didn't it?

What wage would have kept the robot out?

AGAIN... financial acumen is certainly not your FORTE!!!
Here take a look at this sample restaurant operating costs.
NOTE: Salaries, Wages, Employee benefits make up over 30% of operating costs.
SO multiple 30% time 1,600,563 equals $480,168.
Assuming minimum wage goes to $15.00 from the current mean of $10. that is a 50% increase.
1. Mean hourly wage for the food service industry: $9.07-10.18
The Ten Worst-Paying Jobs in America
50% increase in $480,168 is $240,000.
What is the net profit BEFORE increasing to $15 was $70,000.
THERE would BE NO NET profit, therefore NO BUSINESS!
Comprehend financials?