Remember all the sky is falling rhetoric because Trump poked North Korea so often?

Yeah, I do. Now look at the turn of events. Perhaps it is time to put a muzzle on the rhetoric & WATCH as the events unfold.

It's just like all the sky will fall bs if Trump was elected. From the markets to the economy, you knuckleheads have been wrong at every turn that mattered.

Perhaps it is time to reevaluate your position and move from one of partisanship to one of silent observation.
I went from anti Trump pre election to support the positive & condemn the bad. It has proven to be a much less stressful position.

I remember Trump was saying he will stop NK nuclear program, and that it will be easy.


Progress to-date: Acceleration of NK nuclear program, sanctions, lots of cheap talk, zero results.
 
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Yeah, I do. Now look at the turn of events. Perhaps it is time to put a muzzle on the rhetoric & WATCH as the events unfold.

It's just like all the sky will fall bs if Trump was elected. From the markets to the economy, you knuckleheads have been wrong at every turn that mattered.

Perhaps it is time to reevaluate your position and move from one of partisanship to one of silent observation.
I went from anti Trump pre election to support the positive & condemn the bad. It has proven to be a much less stressful position.
I remember Trump saying the sky was falling.
He said the sky was falling? :cranky:
 
The N Koreans cannot read him.

Every other American leader used the international playbook
for waffling. Trump doesn't.

That scares them. They are starting to believe that he might nuke
them if they get a warhead that can reenter the atmosphere.

They've never had anybody stand up to their rhetoric and top it.

I, personally doubt, that they will cave, but who knows. I know one
thing though, they've blinked.

If Regime survival is their ultimate goal, they might just believe that the
best way to survive is denuke. Especially if they are convinced that we
will Nuke them if they can threaten the United States.
Quote) I agree that N Korea thinks that Trump may/could nuke them, & that is why they have backed off. that's a plus, yet not confident in Trumps diplomacy skills.
 
The N Koreans cannot read him.

Every other American leader used the international playbook
for waffling. Trump doesn't.

That scares them. They are starting to believe that he might nuke
them if they get a warhead that can reenter the atmosphere.

They've never had anybody stand up to their rhetoric and top it.

I, personally doubt, that they will cave, but who knows. I know one
thing though, they've blinked.

If Regime survival is their ultimate goal, they might just believe that the
best way to survive is denuke. Especially if they are convinced that we
will Nuke them if they can threaten the United States.
Quote) I agree that N Korea thinks that Trump may/could nuke them, & that is why they have backed off. that's a plus, yet not confident in Trumps diplomacy skills.
They've backed off because putin said the best is yet to come - "we'll rip them apart - together - just you.and.me".

The same thing he told Assad, Erdogan, Trump.....and all others. He's lying, can't you see that? The eye brow lift is his meme.:113:
 
The world chess board is heating up, China is making great inroads, Russia is on the move, N Korea a pawn in the game? are we in a holding pattern? letting allies go, except for Israel ?
 
Yeah, I do. Now look at the turn of events. Perhaps it is time to put a muzzle on the rhetoric & WATCH as the events unfold.

It's just like all the sky will fall bs if Trump was elected. From the markets to the economy, you knuckleheads have been wrong at every turn that mattered.

Perhaps it is time to reevaluate your position and move from one of partisanship to one of silent observation.
I went from anti Trump pre election to support the positive & condemn the bad. It has proven to be a much less stressful position.

If anyone "thinks" that KJU is giving up his nukes just for a chance to have the orange buffoon visit the Korean peninsula, you're beyond hope.

I am hoping that a better relation with NK develops and if it means that the orange clown is forced to go into that peninsula with promises of lifting sanctions, so be it.......
Just don't ***** about Obama's Iran deal.
 
The N Koreans cannot read him.

Every other American leader used the international playbook
for waffling. Trump doesn't.

That scares them. They are starting to believe that he might nuke
them if they get a warhead that can reenter the atmosphere.

They've never had anybody stand up to their rhetoric and top it.

I, personally doubt, that they will cave, but who knows. I know one
thing though, they've blinked.

If Regime survival is their ultimate goal, they might just believe that the
best way to survive is denuke. Especially if they are convinced that we
will Nuke them if they can threaten the United States.
Quote) I agree that N Korea thinks that Trump may/could nuke them, & that is why they have backed off. that's a plus, yet not confident in Trumps diplomacy skills.

A tribute to past American Failures with No Korea.

Why would anybody be "Diplomatic" with a ruthless regime? They view
Diplomacy as weakness.

You deal from a position of strength and give them no out, or period of
rest. You give them some reasons for making the smart decision and you
assure him his regime will last and we won't interfere with it. BUT, his
Nukes have to go.

Once he has a warhead that can reenter the atmosphere, we will have
no choice but to hit them and destroy them. War is inevitable if we can't
get them to denuke and cease their Missile program.

That's our diplomacy in the debate. When you can reach we will destroy
you. You have to teach him and make him understand his regime will
last a lot longer with no nukes, than with nukes.
 
i don't know where its going but seems to me , as i said in a different thread that little old 'rocketman' and alot of his assets , weapons , yada , yada will have to be completely destroyed .
 
Yes, and now even South Korea's president has said that Trump's leadership is the reason that Kim is changing his tune.
 
Yeah, I do. Now look at the turn of events. Perhaps it is time to put a muzzle on the rhetoric & WATCH as the events unfold.

It's just like all the sky will fall bs if Trump was elected. From the markets to the economy, you knuckleheads have been wrong at every turn that mattered.

Perhaps it is time to reevaluate your position and move from one of partisanship to one of silent observation.
I went from anti Trump pre election to support the positive & condemn the bad. It has proven to be a much less stressful position.

If anyone "thinks" that KJU is giving up his nukes just for a chance to have the orange buffoon visit the Korean peninsula, you're beyond hope.

I am hoping that a better relation with NK develops and if it means that the orange clown is forced to go into that peninsula with promises of lifting sanctions, so be it.......
Just don't ***** about Obama's Iran deal.

We'll always ***** about the Iran deal. It wasn't much of a deal for the
U.S.

There won't be better relations with NK, unless they denuke. This has
been kicked down the road for a generation, well, we're out of time now.

There will be no preconditions. No need for them. Kim is the one that
told So Korea he would denuke. He's put his cards on the table with
the South. Thus he has to back that up if he wants to keep the South
in his corner.

I don't believe there will be any negotiations, per se, at this meeting.
Just a feeling out period with both sides placing their demands on the
table. Scheduling a second and future meetings and everything else
remaining in place. Including all the sanctions. The Donald is well aware
of the mistakes of previous Presidents including Clinton's deal where
he basically financed their nuke program while saying he was ensuring
they wouldn't get any.

That ain't gonna work with The Donald. He'll negotiate from his original
standpoint. "We will not accept a Nuclear North Korea with an ICBM
that can reach America."

Kim will know his clock is ticking. He will know when their warheads
can reenter the atmosphere intact, we will strike.

Let the negotiations commence.
 
It's all about survival. Kim Jong Un wants to survive. And i think he realized that Trump might just take him out. It is do-able. So now they're gonna talk. And that's a good thing. Obviously Democrats are gonna whine, but they're gonna whine no matter what Trump does. Personally, i'm glad he's decided to talk with Un. It's the right path. Let's hope something good comes from it.
 
I’m skeptical anything good will come out of their meeting, if there is in fact one, but I’m willing to take the wait and see approach
 
I’m skeptical anything good will come out of their meeting, if there is in fact one, but I’m willing to take the wait and see approach

They're talking. And that's a good thing. It will likely avert a horrific war.
 
"In the first hours after hearing that North Korea’s leader wanted to meet with me to talk denuclearization and that missile launches will end, the press was startled & amazed.They couldn’t believe it. But by the following morning the news became FAKE.They said so what, who cares!

North Korea has not conducted a Missile Test since November 28, 2017 and has promised not to do so through our meetings. I believe they will honor that commitment!

Spoke to Prime Minister Abe of Japan, who is very enthusiastic about talks with North Korea.

Chinese President XI JINPING and I spoke at length about the meeting with KIM JONG UN of North Korea. President XI told me he appreciates that the U.S. is working to solve the problem diplomatically rather than going with the ominous alternative. China continues to be helpful!" - President Trump earlier today
 
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