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YOU CAN TAKE THE GIRL OUT OF EAST GERMANY, BUT YOU CAN’T TAKE THE EAST GERMANY OUT OF THE GIRL. Angela Merkel’s Germany is terrified of upsetting China.
The DDR and the Stasi need to go back to the dusty shelves of that old library where they came from. Are modern Germans really that illiterate? Do they really intend to bring these things back all their glory today?
What about if you would first learn something about Germany, before you give totally unqualified comments about Germany in a totally wrong context?

 
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OUT OF EAST GERMANY, BUT YOU CAN’T TAKE THE EAST GERMANY OUT OF THE GIRL. Angela Merkel’s Germany is terrified of upsetting China.

As Europe weighs what course to take in the face of Lying Outlaw Slaver Beijing’s growing belligerence, it has become increasingly clear that the decision depends on Berlin. Germany is China’s most important counterpart on the continent. Unfortunately for Europe, it is equally clear that Germany’s economic entanglement with Lying Outlaw Slaver China has become so extensive that reversing it is no longer a realistic option.

Germany’s big industrial powerhouses, including Volkswagen and the engineering conglomerate Siemens, were among the first European companies that made the jump to China in the 1980s and have benefited from the unparalleled economic growth in the East. However, over the years the likes of Volkswagen and Siemens developed an unhealthy economic dependency on the Chinese market. While domestic consumption stagnated, the demographic growth and rise of the middle class at the Pacific coastline promised rising profits.
Oh by the way - "You wan": Our government decided to pay to (or for) the USA 1 billion for to build a harbor in Germany, where you can land on your LPG with your tankers and sell it here. They expect in return that the USA stops it's illegal attacks against the natural gas pipeline Nord Stream 2. Do you think your government is corrupt enough to agree?

And don't forget to call home all of your soldiers out of Germany. We are tired meanwhile about the USA, about Russia, about China and about the most European nations and it's perhaps a good idea to reduce all contacts to all the new egocentralized and warhungry idiots - ah sorry "nations" - to strict economical issues and necessities. Send us a message when Donald Trump will be dead, so we can send you in return a congratulatory telegram.

We don't care bro.........we held the line for you ........and now that the bear is gone.....and you've sold your soul to the dragon..........you ungrateful shits try to tell us what we should do and don't uphold your promises.

BYE.
 

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= the chancellor of the federal republic of Germany.

OUT OF EAST GERMANY, BUT YOU CAN’T TAKE THE EAST GERMANY OUT OF THE GIRL. Angela Merkel’s Germany is terrified of upsetting China.

As Europe weighs what course to take in the face of Lying Outlaw Slaver Beijing’s growing belligerence, it has become increasingly clear that the decision depends on Berlin. Germany is China’s most important counterpart on the continent. Unfortunately for Europe, it is equally clear that Germany’s economic entanglement with Lying Outlaw Slaver China has become so extensive that reversing it is no longer a realistic option.

Germany’s big industrial powerhouses, including Volkswagen and the engineering conglomerate Siemens, were among the first European companies that made the jump to China in the 1980s and have benefited from the unparalleled economic growth in the East. However, over the years the likes of Volkswagen and Siemens developed an unhealthy economic dependency on the Chinese market. While domestic consumption stagnated, the demographic growth and rise of the middle class at the Pacific coastline promised rising profits.
Oh by the way - "You wan": Our government decided to pay to (or for) the USA 1 billion for to build a harbor in Germany, where you can land on your LPG with your tankers and sell it here. They expect in return that the USA stops it's illegal attacks against the natural gas pipeline Nord Stream 2. Do you think your government is corrupt enough to agree?

And don't forget to call home all of your soldiers out of Germany. We are tired meanwhile about the USA, about Russia, about China and about the most European nations and it's perhaps a good idea to reduce all contacts to all the new egocentralized and warhungry idiots - ah sorry "nations" - to strict economical issues and necessities. Send us a message when Donald Trump will be dead, so we can send you in return a congratulatory telegram.

We don't care bro.........we held the line for you ........and now that the bear is gone.....and you've sold your soul to the dragon..........you ungrateful shits try to tell us what we should do and don't uphold your promises.

BYE.
You have absolutelly not any idea what you say, isn't it? Germany never did do anything bad to the USA in history - but the USA did do a lot of evil things to Germany. And for the idea to fire nukes into the center of Germany during the cold war, if the Russians will really attack the West, no one here needs to be grateful to the USA, which "defended" Germany. I would say you are lucky that we defended you, although you never earned it to be defended.

Bears are by the way very nice creatures of god. We love bears, specially we love Be[a]r-lin. And we made a short time ago for a folk play, which we play since 1590 AD, a new high tech dragon. The offical name is "Tradino". But we call the dragon "Fanny" (spoken "funny") .

 
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OUT OF EAST GERMANY, BUT YOU CAN’T TAKE THE EAST GERMANY OUT OF THE GIRL. Angela Merkel’s Germany is terrified of upsetting China.

As Europe weighs what course to take in the face of Lying Outlaw Slaver Beijing’s growing belligerence, it has become increasingly clear that the decision depends on Berlin. Germany is China’s most important counterpart on the continent. Unfortunately for Europe, it is equally clear that Germany’s economic entanglement with Lying Outlaw Slaver China has become so extensive that reversing it is no longer a realistic option.

Germany’s big industrial powerhouses, including Volkswagen and the engineering conglomerate Siemens, were among the first European companies that made the jump to China in the 1980s and have benefited from the unparalleled economic growth in the East. However, over the years the likes of Volkswagen and Siemens developed an unhealthy economic dependency on the Chinese market. While domestic consumption stagnated, the demographic growth and rise of the middle class at the Pacific coastline promised rising profits.
Oh by the way - "You wan": Our government decided to pay to (or for) the USA 1 billion for to build a harbor in Germany, where you can land on your LPG with your tankers and sell it here. They expect in return that the USA stops it's illegal attacks against the natural gas pipeline Nord Stream 2. Do you think your government is corrupt enough to agree?

And don't forget to call home all of your soldiers out of Germany. We are tired meanwhile about the USA, about Russia, about China and about the most European nations and it's perhaps a good idea to reduce all contacts to all the new egocentralized and warhungry idiots - ah sorry "nations" - to strict economical issues and necessities. Send us a message when Donald Trump will be dead, so we can send you in return a congratulatory telegram.

We don't care bro.........we held the line for you ........and now that the bear is gone.....and you've sold your soul to the dragon..........you ungrateful shits try to tell us what we should do and don't uphold your promises.

BYE.
You have absolutaly not any idea what you say, isn't it? Germany never did do anything bad to the USA in history - but the USA did do a lot of evil things to Germany. And for the idea to fire nukes into the center of Germany durig the cold war, if the Russians will attack the West no one here needs to be grateful to the USA, which "defended" Germany.

Bear are by the way very nice creatures of god. We love bears. And we made a short time ago for a folk play whch we play since 1590 a new high tech dragon. We call the dragon "Fanny". The officla name is Tradino.

Yawn..........you sit here saying we are the bad guys when you had Hitler........

Bugger off Jerry.
 

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= the chancellor of the federal republic of Germany.

OUT OF EAST GERMANY, BUT YOU CAN’T TAKE THE EAST GERMANY OUT OF THE GIRL. Angela Merkel’s Germany is terrified of upsetting China.

As Europe weighs what course to take in the face of Lying Outlaw Slaver Beijing’s growing belligerence, it has become increasingly clear that the decision depends on Berlin. Germany is China’s most important counterpart on the continent. Unfortunately for Europe, it is equally clear that Germany’s economic entanglement with Lying Outlaw Slaver China has become so extensive that reversing it is no longer a realistic option.

Germany’s big industrial powerhouses, including Volkswagen and the engineering conglomerate Siemens, were among the first European companies that made the jump to China in the 1980s and have benefited from the unparalleled economic growth in the East. However, over the years the likes of Volkswagen and Siemens developed an unhealthy economic dependency on the Chinese market. While domestic consumption stagnated, the demographic growth and rise of the middle class at the Pacific coastline promised rising profits.
Oh by the way - "You wan": Our government decided to pay to (or for) the USA 1 billion for to build a harbor in Germany, where you can land on your LPG with your tankers and sell it here. They expect in return that the USA stops it's illegal attacks against the natural gas pipeline Nord Stream 2. Do you think your government is corrupt enough to agree?

And don't forget to call home all of your soldiers out of Germany. We are tired meanwhile about the USA, about Russia, about China and about the most European nations and it's perhaps a good idea to reduce all contacts to all the new egocentralized and warhungry idiots - ah sorry "nations" - to strict economical issues and necessities. Send us a message when Donald Trump will be dead, so we can send you in return a congratulatory telegram.

We don't care bro.........we held the line for you ........and now that the bear is gone.....and you've sold your soul to the dragon..........you ungrateful shits try to tell us what we should do and don't uphold your promises.

BYE.
You have absolutaly not any idea what you say, isn't it? Germany never did do anything bad to the USA in history - but the USA did do a lot of evil things to Germany. And for the idea to fire nukes into the center of Germany durig the cold war, if the Russians will attack the West no one here needs to be grateful to the USA, which "defended" Germany.

Bear are by the way very nice creatures of god. We love bears. And we made a short time ago for a folk play whch we play since 1590 a new high tech dragon. We call the dragon "Fanny". The officla name is Tradino.

Yawn..........you sit here saying we are the bad guys when you had Hitler........

Bugger off Jerry.
You made Hitler during world war 1, idiot! You and your allies created a totally instable and mad situation after world war 1 in Germany and so the mad man Hitler and his gang was able to overtake the absolute power in Germany.
 
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YOU CAN TAKE THE GIRL
= the chancellor of the federal republic of Germany.

OUT OF EAST GERMANY, BUT YOU CAN’T TAKE THE EAST GERMANY OUT OF THE GIRL. Angela Merkel’s Germany is terrified of upsetting China.

As Europe weighs what course to take in the face of Lying Outlaw Slaver Beijing’s growing belligerence, it has become increasingly clear that the decision depends on Berlin. Germany is China’s most important counterpart on the continent. Unfortunately for Europe, it is equally clear that Germany’s economic entanglement with Lying Outlaw Slaver China has become so extensive that reversing it is no longer a realistic option.

Germany’s big industrial powerhouses, including Volkswagen and the engineering conglomerate Siemens, were among the first European companies that made the jump to China in the 1980s and have benefited from the unparalleled economic growth in the East. However, over the years the likes of Volkswagen and Siemens developed an unhealthy economic dependency on the Chinese market. While domestic consumption stagnated, the demographic growth and rise of the middle class at the Pacific coastline promised rising profits.
Oh by the way - "You wan": Our government decided to pay to (or for) the USA 1 billion for to build a harbor in Germany, where you can land on your LPG with your tankers and sell it here. They expect in return that the USA stops it's illegal attacks against the natural gas pipeline Nord Stream 2. Do you think your government is corrupt enough to agree?

And don't forget to call home all of your soldiers out of Germany. We are tired meanwhile about the USA, about Russia, about China and about the most European nations and it's perhaps a good idea to reduce all contacts to all the new egocentralized and warhungry idiots - ah sorry "nations" - to strict economical issues and necessities. Send us a message when Donald Trump will be dead, so we can send you in return a congratulatory telegram.

Trump's a Peacemonger.

Up To 9 Additional Nations Could Join Peace Deal With Israel, Including Saudi Arabia

It's long past time for Germany to quit free-loading on NATO and pay their fair share.
 

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YOU CAN TAKE THE GIRL
= the chancellor of the federal republic of Germany.

OUT OF EAST GERMANY, BUT YOU CAN’T TAKE THE EAST GERMANY OUT OF THE GIRL. Angela Merkel’s Germany is terrified of upsetting China.

As Europe weighs what course to take in the face of Lying Outlaw Slaver Beijing’s growing belligerence, it has become increasingly clear that the decision depends on Berlin. Germany is China’s most important counterpart on the continent. Unfortunately for Europe, it is equally clear that Germany’s economic entanglement with Lying Outlaw Slaver China has become so extensive that reversing it is no longer a realistic option.

Germany’s big industrial powerhouses, including Volkswagen and the engineering conglomerate Siemens, were among the first European companies that made the jump to China in the 1980s and have benefited from the unparalleled economic growth in the East. However, over the years the likes of Volkswagen and Siemens developed an unhealthy economic dependency on the Chinese market. While domestic consumption stagnated, the demographic growth and rise of the middle class at the Pacific coastline promised rising profits.
Oh by the way - "You wan": Our government decided to pay to (or for) the USA 1 billion for to build a harbor in Germany, where you can land on your LPG with your tankers and sell it here. They expect in return that the USA stops it's illegal attacks against the natural gas pipeline Nord Stream 2. Do you think your government is corrupt enough to agree?

And don't forget to call home all of your soldiers out of Germany. We are tired meanwhile about the USA, about Russia, about China and about the most European nations and it's perhaps a good idea to reduce all contacts to all the new egocentralized and warhungry idiots - ah sorry "nations" - to strict economical issues and necessities. Send us a message when Donald Trump will be dead, so we can send you in return a congratulatory telegram.

We don't care bro.........we held the line for you ........and now that the bear is gone.....and you've sold your soul to the dragon..........you ungrateful shits try to tell us what we should do and don't uphold your promises.

BYE.
Time for Germany to pay their fair share.
 

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YOU CAN TAKE THE GIRL
= the chancellor of the federal republic of Germany.

OUT OF EAST GERMANY, BUT YOU CAN’T TAKE THE EAST GERMANY OUT OF THE GIRL. Angela Merkel’s Germany is terrified of upsetting China.

As Europe weighs what course to take in the face of Lying Outlaw Slaver Beijing’s growing belligerence, it has become increasingly clear that the decision depends on Berlin. Germany is China’s most important counterpart on the continent. Unfortunately for Europe, it is equally clear that Germany’s economic entanglement with Lying Outlaw Slaver China has become so extensive that reversing it is no longer a realistic option.

Germany’s big industrial powerhouses, including Volkswagen and the engineering conglomerate Siemens, were among the first European companies that made the jump to China in the 1980s and have benefited from the unparalleled economic growth in the East. However, over the years the likes of Volkswagen and Siemens developed an unhealthy economic dependency on the Chinese market. While domestic consumption stagnated, the demographic growth and rise of the middle class at the Pacific coastline promised rising profits.
Oh by the way - "You wan": Our government decided to pay to (or for) the USA 1 billion for to build a harbor in Germany, where you can land on your LPG with your tankers and sell it here. They expect in return that the USA stops it's illegal attacks against the natural gas pipeline Nord Stream 2. Do you think your government is corrupt enough to agree?

And don't forget to call home all of your soldiers out of Germany. We are tired meanwhile about the USA, about Russia, about China and about the most European nations and it's perhaps a good idea to reduce all contacts to all the new egocentralized and warhungry idiots - ah sorry "nations" - to strict economical issues and necessities. Send us a message when Donald Trump will be dead, so we can send you in return a congratulatory telegram.

We don't care bro.........we held the line for you ........and now that the bear is gone.....and you've sold your soul to the dragon..........you ungrateful shits try to tell us what we should do and don't uphold your promises.

BYE.
You have absolutelly not any idea what you say, isn't it? Germany never did do anything bad to the USA in history - but the USA did do a lot of evil things to Germany. And for the idea to fire nukes into the center of Germany during the cold war, if the Russians will really attack the West, no one here needs to be grateful to the USA, which "defended" Germany. I would say you are lucky that we defended you, although you never earned it to be defended.

Bears are by the way very nice creatures of god. We love bears, specially we love Be[a]r-lin. And we made a short time ago for a folk play, which we play since 1590 AD, a new high tech dragon. The offical name is "Tradino". But we call the dragon "Fanny" (spoken "funny") .

Germany needs to honor their commitment to NATO and quit freeloading off the alliance.
 

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YOU CAN TAKE THE GIRL
= the chancellor of the federal republic of Germany.

OUT OF EAST GERMANY, BUT YOU CAN’T TAKE THE EAST GERMANY OUT OF THE GIRL. Angela Merkel’s Germany is terrified of upsetting China.

As Europe weighs what course to take in the face of Lying Outlaw Slaver Beijing’s growing belligerence, it has become increasingly clear that the decision depends on Berlin. Germany is China’s most important counterpart on the continent. Unfortunately for Europe, it is equally clear that Germany’s economic entanglement with Lying Outlaw Slaver China has become so extensive that reversing it is no longer a realistic option.

Germany’s big industrial powerhouses, including Volkswagen and the engineering conglomerate Siemens, were among the first European companies that made the jump to China in the 1980s and have benefited from the unparalleled economic growth in the East. However, over the years the likes of Volkswagen and Siemens developed an unhealthy economic dependency on the Chinese market. While domestic consumption stagnated, the demographic growth and rise of the middle class at the Pacific coastline promised rising profits.
Oh by the way - "You wan": Our government decided to pay to (or for) the USA 1 billion for to build a harbor in Germany, where you can land on your LPG with your tankers and sell it here. They expect in return that the USA stops it's illegal attacks against the natural gas pipeline Nord Stream 2. Do you think your government is corrupt enough to agree?

And don't forget to call home all of your soldiers out of Germany. We are tired meanwhile about the USA, about Russia, about China and about the most European nations and it's perhaps a good idea to reduce all contacts to all the new egocentralized and warhungry idiots - ah sorry "nations" - to strict economical issues and necessities. Send us a message when Donald Trump will be dead, so we can send you in return a congratulatory telegram.

We don't care bro.........we held the line for you ........and now that the bear is gone.....and you've sold your soul to the dragon..........you ungrateful shits try to tell us what we should do and don't uphold your promises.

BYE.
You have absolutaly not any idea what you say, isn't it? Germany never did do anything bad to the USA in history - but the USA did do a lot of evil things to Germany. And for the idea to fire nukes into the center of Germany durig the cold war, if the Russians will attack the West no one here needs to be grateful to the USA, which "defended" Germany.

Bear are by the way very nice creatures of god. We love bears. And we made a short time ago for a folk play whch we play since 1590 a new high tech dragon. We call the dragon "Fanny". The officla name is Tradino.

Yawn..........you sit here saying we are the bad guys when you had Hitler........

Bugger off Jerry.
You made Hitler during world war 1, idiot! You and your allies created a totally instable and mad situation after world war 1 in Germany and so the mad man Hitler and his gang was able to overtake the absolute power in Germany.
Oh sure, it was everyone else's fault.
 

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... It's long past time for Germany to quit free-loading on NATO and pay their fair share.
To make some things clear: What any nation in the NATO pays for the own army is exclusivelly a decision of the own parliament and not the decision of anyone else. And how much money Germany pays for the own defence changes absolutelly nothing in the money the USA. Before Trump decided to waste on stupid reasons billions of the money of the USA to move the command center of the USA from Germany to Bruxelles and to send 1/3 (10,500 soliers) of your soldiers from Germany to other countries it had left Germany about 216,000 of your soldiers during the last few decades - what was absolutelly not any problem for anyone. So take the rest of your soldiers and leave Germany forever - this will also not be any problem. It's not nice, because many people here got good relations in the last decades to US-Americans, but that's all. It's for Germany absolutelly not acceptable that in the USA exists such a widespread anti-Germanism so the rabble-rouser Donald Trump is able to generate votes for himselve out of this anti-Germanism.
 

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= the chancellor of the federal republic of Germany.

OUT OF EAST GERMANY, BUT YOU CAN’T TAKE THE EAST GERMANY OUT OF THE GIRL. Angela Merkel’s Germany is terrified of upsetting China.

As Europe weighs what course to take in the face of Lying Outlaw Slaver Beijing’s growing belligerence, it has become increasingly clear that the decision depends on Berlin. Germany is China’s most important counterpart on the continent. Unfortunately for Europe, it is equally clear that Germany’s economic entanglement with Lying Outlaw Slaver China has become so extensive that reversing it is no longer a realistic option.

Germany’s big industrial powerhouses, including Volkswagen and the engineering conglomerate Siemens, were among the first European companies that made the jump to China in the 1980s and have benefited from the unparalleled economic growth in the East. However, over the years the likes of Volkswagen and Siemens developed an unhealthy economic dependency on the Chinese market. While domestic consumption stagnated, the demographic growth and rise of the middle class at the Pacific coastline promised rising profits.
Oh by the way - "You wan": Our government decided to pay to (or for) the USA 1 billion for to build a harbor in Germany, where you can land on your LPG with your tankers and sell it here. They expect in return that the USA stops it's illegal attacks against the natural gas pipeline Nord Stream 2. Do you think your government is corrupt enough to agree?

And don't forget to call home all of your soldiers out of Germany. We are tired meanwhile about the USA, about Russia, about China and about the most European nations and it's perhaps a good idea to reduce all contacts to all the new egocentralized and warhungry idiots - ah sorry "nations" - to strict economical issues and necessities. Send us a message when Donald Trump will be dead, so we can send you in return a congratulatory telegram.

We don't care bro.........we held the line for you ........and now that the bear is gone.....and you've sold your soul to the dragon..........you ungrateful shits try to tell us what we should do and don't uphold your promises.

BYE.
You have absolutaly not any idea what you say, isn't it? Germany never did do anything bad to the USA in history - but the USA did do a lot of evil things to Germany. And for the idea to fire nukes into the center of Germany durig the cold war, if the Russians will attack the West no one here needs to be grateful to the USA, which "defended" Germany.

Bear are by the way very nice creatures of god. We love bears. And we made a short time ago for a folk play whch we play since 1590 a new high tech dragon. We call the dragon "Fanny". The officla name is Tradino.

Yawn..........you sit here saying we are the bad guys when you had Hitler........

Bugger off Jerry.
You made Hitler during world war 1, idiot! You and your allies created a totally instable and mad situation after world war 1 in Germany and so the mad man Hitler and his gang was able to overtake the absolute power in Germany.
Oh sure, it was everyone else's fault.
I don't think like an US-American.

 
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... Germany needs to honor their commitment to NATO and quit reeloading off the alliance.
We pay the same money to the institution "NATO" as the USA is doing.
The commitment to NATO is not to pay them money, rather, to maintain deployable forces for the common defense and to keep military spending at or above 2% of GDP. And you are NOT meeting either commitment.
 

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... It's long past time for Germany to quit free-loading on NATO and pay their fair share.
To make some things clear: What any nation in the NATO pays for the own army is exclusivelly a decision of the own parliament and not the decision of anyone else...
It's also their decision if they are going to be in the treaty organization.
... And how much money Germany pays for the own defence changes absolutelly nothing in the money the USA...
Yes it does, we will not stand back and fail, so when Germany doesn't meet it's commitments, in order for the commitments to be met, others carry them.
... Before Trump decided to waste on stupid reasons billions of the money of the USA to move the command center of the USA from Germany to Bruxelles and to send 1/3 (10,500 soliers) of your soldiers from Germany to other countries it had left Germany about 216,000 of your soldiers during the last few decades - what was absolutelly not any problem for anyone....
Of course, all those US expenditures were a very nice boost for the German Economy.
... So take the rest of your soldiers and leave Germany forever - this will also not be any problem. It's not nice, because many people here got good relations in the last decades to US-Americans...
That's nice.
... but that's all. It's for Germany absolutelly not acceptable that in the USA exists such a widespread anti-Germanism so the rabble-rouser Donald Trump is able to generate votes for himselve out of this anti-Germanism...
No one is anti-German. We are only anti-freeloaders. If you want the benefits of the alliance, meet your commitments.
 

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Donald Trump’s plans to withdraw roughly a third of the US troops stationed in Germany have been criticised in the country by conservatives and welcomed by leftwing politicians.

The US president has reportedly ordered the Pentagon to reduce the number of troops by 9,500 from the 34,500 permanently assigned in Germany as part of a long-standing arrangement with Washington’s Nato ally.

Johann Wadephul, the deputy chair of the parliamentary group of Angela Merkel’s Christian Democratic Union (CDU), described the withdrawal as a wake-up call. “The plans show that the Trump administration is neglecting an elementary task of leadership, to bind coalition partners into decision-making processes,” he said.

“Everyone profits from the alliance sticking together, only Russia and China profit from discord. Washington should pay more attention to that.”

The leader of the parliamentary group of the leftwing party Die Linke welcomed the development. “The federal government should accept it with gratitude and promptly start preparing the complete withdrawal of US soldiers with the Trump administration,” said Dietmar Bartsch.

This is an interesting development.
We need to leave, we are wasting our time and resources by being in Germany. Bring the troops home to protect our country. Let Germany spend their money.
 

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Donald Trump’s plans to withdraw roughly a third of the US troops stationed in Germany have been criticised in the country by conservatives and welcomed by leftwing politicians.

The US president has reportedly ordered the Pentagon to reduce the number of troops by 9,500 from the 34,500 permanently assigned in Germany as part of a long-standing arrangement with Washington’s Nato ally.

Johann Wadephul, the deputy chair of the parliamentary group of Angela Merkel’s Christian Democratic Union (CDU), described the withdrawal as a wake-up call. “The plans show that the Trump administration is neglecting an elementary task of leadership, to bind coalition partners into decision-making processes,” he said.

“Everyone profits from the alliance sticking together, only Russia and China profit from discord. Washington should pay more attention to that.”

The leader of the parliamentary group of the leftwing party Die Linke welcomed the development. “The federal government should accept it with gratitude and promptly start preparing the complete withdrawal of US soldiers with the Trump administration,” said Dietmar Bartsch.

This is an interesting development.
We need to leave, we are wasting our time and resources by being in Germany. Bring the troops home to protect our country. Let Germany spend their money.
If the Alliance or the US benefits from troops currently stationed there, and Germany allows them to be stationed there, then it's in all of our interests for them to stay. But, when our needs, or the needs of the alliance change, as they have, then the Troops need to be moved to where they are needed, and in the case under discussion, Poland is now a front, in much the same manner that Germany once was, when all this infrastructure was built.

The German People are a wonderful people, the world needs these hardworking craftsmen. The Germany of today is fully capable of self-reliance and fulfilling it's international obligations. It has come through it's NAZI period and the terrible national suicide under Hitler, the struggle against the USSR, followed by the monumental task of reunification, and it's time that it took it's place among the nations of the world as a fully self-sufficient Regional Power. We in the US do not stand against this, we welcome this and take pride in it, as we fostered it these many decades.
 

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Donald Trump’s plans to withdraw roughly a third of the US troops stationed in Germany have been criticised in the country by conservatives and welcomed by leftwing politicians.

The US president has reportedly ordered the Pentagon to reduce the number of troops by 9,500 from the 34,500 permanently assigned in Germany as part of a long-standing arrangement with Washington’s Nato ally.

Johann Wadephul, the deputy chair of the parliamentary group of Angela Merkel’s Christian Democratic Union (CDU), described the withdrawal as a wake-up call. “The plans show that the Trump administration is neglecting an elementary task of leadership, to bind coalition partners into decision-making processes,” he said.

“Everyone profits from the alliance sticking together, only Russia and China profit from discord. Washington should pay more attention to that.”

The leader of the parliamentary group of the leftwing party Die Linke welcomed the development. “The federal government should accept it with gratitude and promptly start preparing the complete withdrawal of US soldiers with the Trump administration,” said Dietmar Bartsch.

This is an interesting development.
We need to leave, we are wasting our time and resources by being in Germany. Bring the troops home to protect our country. Let Germany spend their money.
If the Alliance or the US benefits from troops currently stationed there, and Germany allows them to be stationed there, then it's in all of our interests for them to stay. But, when our needs, or the needs of the alliance change, as they have, then the Troops need to be moved to where they are needed, and in the case under discussion, Poland is now a front, in much the same manner that Germany once was, when all this infrastructure was built.

The German People are a wonderful people, the world needs these hardworking craftsmen. The Germany of today is fully capable of self-reliance and fulfilling it's international obligations. It has come through it's NAZI period and the terrible national suicide under Hitler, the struggle against the USSR, followed by the monumental task of reunification, and it's time that it took it's place among the nations of the world as a fully self-sufficient Regional Power. We in the US do not stand against this, we welcome this and take pride in it, as we fostered it these many decades.
I don't have anything against Germany, we need our troops home. We are not the world police, we have needs in our country that need to be taken care of. Germany s self reliant and they need to pay for their security, just as we do.
 

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... Germany needs to honor their commitment to NATO and quit reeloading off the alliance.
We pay the same money to the institution "NATO" as the USA is doing.
The commitment to NATO is not to pay them money, rather, to maintain deployable forces for the common defense and to keep military spending at or above 2% of GDP. And you are NOT meeting either commitment.
As far as know it gave an agreement with Barack Obama about 1.5% up to the year 2024 (and not 2% now immediatelly, how everyone says today). And Germany was on good way to fulfill this agreement with not only 1.5% but even 2% up to the year 2024.

But Donald Trump - this bloody damned liar and asshole - changed meanwhile everything in the relations between Germany and the USA. Indeed the USA declared meanwhile in many ways war against Germany. Additionally came the pandemic Corona which binds a lot of economic capacities and possibilites.

The result of all this is very clear to me - very short: Leave Germany not only with some of your soldiers, who are not able to defend Germany, because they are not able to defend what the USA hates. And how much money Germany will pay for what kind of German army - a NATO-compatible army or not a NATO-compatible army - is exclusively only a decision of the German Bundestag - of our parliament - and not the decision of any single political party in Germany - nor is it the decision of an extremist idiot and autocrat, who overtook with his loyal spitlickers the white house of the USA.

And - lazybone - ¿Why do you not read what I said here before you came? - then I would not have to repeat what I said.

 
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Donald Trump’s plans to withdraw roughly a third of the US troops stationed in Germany have been criticised in the country by conservatives and welcomed by leftwing politicians.

The US president has reportedly ordered the Pentagon to reduce the number of troops by 9,500 from the 34,500 permanently assigned in Germany as part of a long-standing arrangement with Washington’s Nato ally.

Johann Wadephul, the deputy chair of the parliamentary group of Angela Merkel’s Christian Democratic Union (CDU), described the withdrawal as a wake-up call. “The plans show that the Trump administration is neglecting an elementary task of leadership, to bind coalition partners into decision-making processes,” he said.

“Everyone profits from the alliance sticking together, only Russia and China profit from discord. Washington should pay more attention to that.”

The leader of the parliamentary group of the leftwing party Die Linke welcomed the development. “The federal government should accept it with gratitude and promptly start preparing the complete withdrawal of US soldiers with the Trump administration,” said Dietmar Bartsch.

This is an interesting development.
We need to leave, we are wasting our time and resources by being in Germany. Bring the troops home to protect our country. Let Germany spend their money.
If the Alliance or the US benefits from troops currently stationed there, and Germany allows them to be stationed there, then it's in all of our interests for them to stay. But, when our needs, or the needs of the alliance change, as they have, then the Troops need to be moved to where they are needed, and in the case under discussion, Poland is now a front, in much the same manner that Germany once was, when all this infrastructure was built.

The German People are a wonderful people, the world needs these hardworking craftsmen. The Germany of today is fully capable of self-reliance and fulfilling it's international obligations. It has come through it's NAZI period and the terrible national suicide under Hitler, the struggle against the USSR, followed by the monumental task of reunification, and it's time that it took it's place among the nations of the world as a fully self-sufficient Regional Power. We in the US do not stand against this, we welcome this and take pride in it, as we fostered it these many decades.
I don't have anything against Germany, we need our troops home...
Where that is true, I'm sure that will occur.
We are not the world police...
We have NATO commitments.
We have self defense commit, we have needs in our country that need to be taken care of.
We do.
Germany s self reliant and they need to pay for their security, just as we do.
Yup. Time for Germany to pull up their Big Boy pants. They are ready!
 

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... It's long past time for Germany to quit free-loading on NATO and pay their fair share.
To make some things clear: What any nation in the NATO pays for the own army is exclusivelly a decision of the own parliament and not the decision of anyone else...
It's also their decision if they are going to be in the treaty organization.[/uotze]

No! We - the cituizemnnc of the federal rfeaouibaoic iof Grmany - decide what our army has to do - no one else. Otherwise the right of resistance of ever German citizen will be activated.

... And how much money Germany pays for the own defence changes absolutelly nothing in the money the USA...
Yes it does,
You are a joker. When you callled aback about 200,00 soires form G4rmany - how muhc koney sank your costs for defence? = cents or minus some billion dollar?

we will not stand back and fail, so when Germany doesn't meet it's commitments, in order for the commitments
to be met, others carry them.
Eh?

... Before Trump decided to waste on stupid reasons billions of the money of the USA to move the command center of the USA from Germany to Bruxelles and to send 1/3 (10,500 soliers) of your soldiers from Germany to other countries it had left Germany about 216,000 of your soldiers during the last few decades - what was absolutelly not any problem for anyone....
Of course, all those US expenditures were a very nice boost for the German Economy.
What a nonsense. The US-army costs us money.

... So take the rest of your soldiers and leave Germany forever - this will also not be any problem. It's not nice, because many people here got good relations in the last decades to US-Americans...
That's nice.

... but that's all. It's for Germany absolutelly not acceptable that in the USA exists such a widespread anti-Germanism so the rabble-rouser Donald Trump is able to generate votes for himselve out of this anti-Germanism...
No one is anti-German.
Anti-Germanism brings votes in the USA. It's totally clear to me what this means.

We are only anti-freeloaders.
Anti what? Schmarotzer? Your are calling us Schmarotzer? ... US-Americans know how to speak with friends and partners.

If you want the benefits of the alliance, meet your commitments.
U-n-b-e-l-i-e-v-a-b-l-e impertinence. Take your soldiers - all of them - leave Germany forever - and let us forget that we ever made the mistake to defend the criminal USA.

 
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