Registration of firearms leads to confiscation

Regradless of the second amendment I have the right to self-defense the government did not give me that right. The government is mandated by the US Constitution to protect that right.
The thread premise is still a lie and wrong.

Registration doesn’t result in ‘confiscation.’

No guns in New York are being ‘confiscated.’

The thread premise is more rightwing demagoguery and dishonesty.
 
The thread premise is still a lie and wrong.

Registration doesn’t result in ‘confiscation.’

No guns in New York are being ‘confiscated.’

The thread premise is more rightwing demagoguery and dishonesty.
Can you please paste that on every page of this thread because I don't think the majority of the gun-culture nuts understand it.
 
Can you please paste that on every page of this thread because I don't think the majority of the gun-culture nuts understand it.
Conservatives understand this and know it's true.

But that’s not what this is about.

It’s about dishonest conservatives propagating lies and engaging in demagoguery in an effort to keep the partisan base ignorant, angry, and engaged.

For conservatives it’s not about facts and the truth, it’s about lies and dishonesty – in this case the lie that registration results in ‘confiscation.’
 
Shut the fuck up liar
The letter from the City clearly states that business owners are at liberty to relocate their firearms to another venue – indeed, they could simply take their guns home.

No guns are being ‘confiscated.’

That’s why the thread premise is a lie – and illustrates the fact that conservatives are dishonest and liars.
 
The letter from the City clearly states that business owners are at liberty to relocate their firearms to another venue – indeed, they could simply take their guns home.

No guns are being ‘confiscated.’

That’s why the thread premise is a lie – and illustrates the fact that conservatives are dishonest and liars.
But they must turn in their property. If not confiscation you stupid lying sack of dog shit.
 
Conservatives understand this and know it's true.

But that’s not what this is about.

It’s about dishonest conservatives propagating lies and engaging in demagoguery in an effort to keep the partisan base ignorant, angry, and engaged.

For conservatives it’s not about facts and the truth, it’s about lies and dishonesty – in this case the lie that registration results in ‘confiscation.’
You're a God damn lying sack of shit that should have been aborted
 
The thread premise is still a lie and wrong.

Registration doesn’t result in ‘confiscation.’

No guns in New York are being ‘confiscated.’

The thread premise is more rightwing demagoguery and dishonesty.
The guns in NYC that need confiscated are the one's in the hands of gang's and criminal's, not the one's in the hands of the good citizen's.
 
Conservatives understand this and know it's true.

But that’s not what this is about.

It’s about dishonest conservatives propagating lies and engaging in demagoguery in an effort to keep the partisan base ignorant, angry, and engaged.

For conservatives it’s not about facts and the truth, it’s about lies and dishonesty – in this case the lie that registration results in ‘confiscation.’
Look, I don't waste a single second of my time debating or arguing over childish crap about conservatives and liberals. It's all bull shit. I agree with you 100% about "dishonesty" and "propagating lies ... in an effort to keep" Americans "ignorant" but I do not run a straight ticket about who is the most guilty regarding a variety of issues.

I'm sticking with you that it's a " lie that registration results in confiscation" and I would like to see you break some heads and make them see that you are right. Just don't include me in "conservative" bashing because I swing both ways depending ENTIRELY on the idividual issue.

So get in there and give them hell.:whip:I've got your back on this one.
 
Look, I don't waste a single second of my time debating or arguing over childish crap about conservatives and liberals. It's all bull shit. I agree with you 100% about "dishonesty" and "propagating lies ... in an effort to keep" Americans "ignorant" but I do not run a straight ticket about who is the most guilty regarding a variety of issues.

I'm sticking with you that it's a " lie that registration results in confiscation" and I would like to see you break some heads and make them see that you are right. Just don't include me in "conservative" bashing because I swing both ways depending ENTIRELY on the idividual issue.

So get in there and give them hell.:whip:I've got your back on this one.
 
Can you please paste that on every page of this thread because I don't think the majority of the gun-culture nuts understand it.
Registration would be an obvious first step used by the left to identify firearms owners and to use that information for their hoped-for, Beto O'rourke style confiscation program.

We see how incompetent leftists are with keeping personal information, private.

 
Look, I don't waste a single second of my time debating or arguing over childish crap about conservatives and liberals. It's all bull shit. I agree with you 100% about "dishonesty" and "propagating lies ... in an effort to keep" Americans "ignorant" but I do not run a straight ticket about who is the most guilty regarding a variety of issues.

I'm sticking with you that it's a " lie that registration results in confiscation" and I would like to see you break some heads and make them see that you are right. Just don't include me in "conservative" bashing because I swing both ways depending ENTIRELY on the idividual issue.

So get in there and give them hell.:whip:I've got your back on this one.
Again, conservatives know that it’s a lie, that registration doesn’t result in ‘confiscation.’

Conservatives will propagate the lie regardless.

And it’s very much about conservatives – the right’s lies about ‘confiscation’ are the same lies about elections being ‘stolen’ and lies about an ‘open border’; it’s who and what conservatives are: liars and dishonest.
 
Registration would be an obvious first step used by the left to identify firearms owners and to use that information for their hoped-for, Beto O'rourke style confiscation program.

We see how incompetent leftists are with keeping personal information, private.

As if on cue – a lie from the dishonest right.

In this case both a slippery slope fallacy and hasty generalization fallacy.
 
Again, conservatives know that it’s a lie, that registration doesn’t result in ‘confiscation.’

Conservatives will propagate the lie regardless.

And it’s very much about conservatives – the right’s lies about ‘confiscation’ are the same lies about elections being ‘stolen’ and lies about an ‘open border’; it’s who and what conservatives are: liars and dishonest.
There is no reason for law abiding people to have to tell the government what guns they own.

Do you have to tell the government who you voted for?
Do you have to tell the government what religion you are?
Do you have to tell the government where your private documents are kept?

If we put the same restrictions, costs and difficulty you all want on the right to own a gun on every other right you'd all be whining about it.
 
As if on cue – a lie from the dishonest right.

In this case both a slippery slope fallacy and hasty generalization fallacy.
You are on a slippery slope of a hasty generalization fallacy. You insist you know that registration would not lead to confiscation with nothing more than the, “…. because I say so”, fallacy.
 
You are on a slippery slope of a hasty generalization fallacy. You insist you know that registration would not lead to confiscation with nothing more than the, “…. because I say so”, fallacy.
Your post fails as a slippery slope fallacy because it’s baseless speculation.

Lying about something that ‘might’ happen doesn’t mean it will happen.

As for O’Rourke, he’s a single individual expressing a subjective, personal opinion – he neither ‘represents’ the ‘left’ nor ‘speaks’ for the ‘left’ – to claim otherwise is a classic hasty generalization fallacy.

Firearms have been registered for decades – and not once has there been a case of ‘confiscation’ the result of registration.

Moreover, government cannot confiscate private property absent due process and just compensation.

There are well over 300 million guns in the United States – it would be impossible to adjudicate and compensate for every firearm, the process would last centuries.

To avoid Fifth Amendment Takings Clause court challenges, government would need to pass legislation making the possession of firearms illegal – with firearms rendered as contraband, the Fifth Amendment would no longer apply.

But legislation making the possession of firearms illegal would be pointless – the courts would invalidate such a measure pursuant to Heller/McDonald.

And with legislation making the possession of firearms illegal invalidated, the Fifth Amendment comes back in play.

This is why the notion of firearms being ‘confiscated’ is a lie; as ridiculous as it is wrongheaded.
 
Your post fails as a slippery slope fallacy because it’s baseless speculation.

Lying about something that ‘might’ happen doesn’t mean it will happen.

As for O’Rourke, he’s a single individual expressing a subjective, personal opinion – he neither ‘represents’ the ‘left’ nor ‘speaks’ for the ‘left’ – to claim otherwise is a classic hasty generalization fallacy.

Firearms have been registered for decades – and not once has there been a case of ‘confiscation’ the result of registration.

Moreover, government cannot confiscate private property absent due process and just compensation.

There are well over 300 million guns in the United States – it would be impossible to adjudicate and compensate for every firearm, the process would last centuries.

To avoid Fifth Amendment Takings Clause court challenges, government would need to pass legislation making the possession of firearms illegal – with firearms rendered as contraband, the Fifth Amendment would no longer apply.

But legislation making the possession of firearms illegal would be pointless – the courts would invalidate such a measure pursuant to Heller/McDonald.

And with legislation making the possession of firearms illegal invalidated, the Fifth Amendment comes back in play.

This is why the notion of firearms being ‘confiscated’ is a lie; as ridiculous as it is wrongheaded.
There is no need for the government to know what guns any law abiding citizen owns.
 
There is no reason for law abiding people to have to tell the government what guns they own.

Do you have to tell the government who you voted for?
Do you have to tell the government what religion you are?
Do you have to tell the government where your private documents are kept?

If we put the same restrictions, costs and difficulty you all want on the right to own a gun on every other right you'd all be whining about it.
Lying about guns isn’t the only things conservatives lie about.

Lying about guns is consistent with conservatives’ comprehensive dishonesty.

Topics on this very forum are proof of that.

In addition to conservatives lying about the election being ‘stolen’ and ‘open borders,’

Conservatives lied about IRS agents ‘spying’ on Americans.

Conservatives lied about COVID-19 vaccinations.

Conservatives lied about Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson being ‘lenient’ on child pornography.

Conservatives lied about non-existent ‘voter fraud.’

And this just scratches the surface.
 

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