I am right, you’re just too much of an angry person to see it.
What you are is white. And you are wrong. Why is it that you honesty believe you can argue with a back man about why backs vote Democrat?
Some black people don’t see it that way. You know…those who are thinking for themselves?? And you just admitted it, there is pressure and social stigma..for people who don’t think like you.
Why is it that the only blacks you believe think for themselves are the ones who support white supremacy? Now if you cannot understand why blacks put pressure in each other not to vote for a returnto jim crow, then you really have got an incurable case of white racism.
So, once again, I’m right. I don’t think like you so I must be white. You are just further and further completing my argument.
This is not about people thinking like me whiite boy..None of it is. A black person can vote democrat and not think like I do, so drop that idiotic belief now. Very few bllacks think like this:
Really? Are you serious? Have you…taken a look around lately? The entire country is caught in this woke nonsense where white people are being told they are bad people and they have “micro aggression” and unrealized bias. They have to walk around on egg shells as not to offend anyone, because culture today has been curated to be specifically beat down white people while lifting everyone else up, all under the guise of “all white people are secretly racists”
So unless yu're Jesse Lee Peterson or Larry Elder, you are white.
What have Biden/harris done for the black community?
Lowest Black unemployment rate in history to start off with. Record black busnsess growth. A record reduction of the white/black wealth gap, record investment in HBCUS, record black small business start ups. Most blacks appointed as judges on federal bemches. Most aggressive civil rights crackdowns on violators of federal anti discromnition laws. These are just a few.
Nobody is pressing blacks to vote republican either. I mean, repubs will take every vote they can get for sure, but nobody is pressing them. I’m not sure what you are getting at here. We’re talking about the pressure within the black community to vote a certain way. Do those pressures also exist in other communities?
Other communities press their citizens to vote in their best interests just like blacks. And those who do not are condemned just the same. But we don't see whites like you lecturing them on why they should vote for what you want them to vote for.
No, Obama told us, the guy in the video you posted told us, and now…you just told us, that you pressure black people to vote a certain way.
Obama spoke truth. So did the guy in the video. So am I. And if that chaps your white ass, so be it. We are talking about voting for what's in our best interest. Not yours.
Just digging that hole deeper aren’t ya. You do see this, right? You are literally telling us that a black person who doesn’t tow your line is an idiot. YOU are the one saying black people cant think for themselves.
No, thats what YOU ARE SAYING. Cut out the gaslighting white boy. I am saying that any black person who votes for trump knowing what he has plans to do is an idiot. And that if you are black voting for trump considering what he plans to do, you are not thinking.
What are they doing to hold you back from opportunity?
Why do whites like you ask this question when you hear trump speaking, when you listen to other republicans and when you watch what the supreme court has done? You guys aren't fooling anyone. Whites have played around with the laws pertaining to discrimination since the civil rights act was passed. Thats why white women were the number one beneficiries of Affirmative Action. You have really got to stop this tired ass tactic.
So?? That doesn’t mean Trump is involved. Trump said he isn’t involved, the architect of P2025 has said he’s not involved. Because they wrote this and put his name in it doesn’t prove he’s involved. It just means they put trumps name in their report.
Trump is a liar. He knows all about Project 2025 and will implement it if he is elected.
I’ve yet to see any Republican policy that excludes black people..or people of any color for that matter. Perhaps you could list one or two.
Republicans oppose equal rightspoices and clim they re nti white discrmintion. Look white man, don't get stupid. This isn't 1924. Whites can't put up signs saying no blacks allowed. They just don't hire or promote blacks and don't say anything about it. You know this because you've undoubtedly seen it being done.
Yeah, miller filed a lawsuit because a companies diversity program forced them to fire a white guy. Do you think it was right for them to discriminate against white people in the name of DEI?
That company wasn't discrminating against whites. Lets get something straight about how you racists misuse the 14th Amendment. A company that is majority white with majority white management is not discrminating against a white person when they hire/promote someone black. When the 14th was created, the so called quota for blacks was zero. If in 1868 blacks were a majority of the workforce or anything else, the 14th would never have been created. And a company fired a white guy only becuse they didn't have diversity? No, I don't think people get firedfor that.
So let me put it to you this way because whites are abusing this law in order to maintain white supremacy. Let's say a workplace is 80 percent black, and they hire a white person. Do you think that a black person who was passed over could walk into Millers office and ask him to file a lawsuit. The answer is no.
Miller tried suing the Fearless Fund because it ws made for blacks. Blacks get 1 percent of the venture capital from white venture capital firms, so a group of black women created a fund that targeted back, women and Miller decided that was racial discrmiontion. Again, Blacks get 1 percent of the venture capital from white firms and that scumbag whined about anti white racism. The reality in that situation is that white venture capital fims were excuding black entrepreneurs. This is the kind of crap whites like you are pulling while whining about anti white rcism.
That’s wrong. White peoples are afraid to speak in many places because of your next sentence;
This is some straight up bullshit. That whites are committing these aggressions and biases and only blacks can see it. That’s some awfully convenient stuff right there.
If you and a white person were having this very conversation at a work place, it would get the white person fired, but you would get away with it, even with all your “white boy” pejoratives, and name calling. You can accuse a white person of racism and immediately it get sent to HR and they have to do an investigation. If that white person tries to deny that they are a racist, you say it’s unconscious bias, and anything that white person says will be labeled as micro aggression.
So yeah, white peoples have to walk on egg shells because people love to throw around that “R” word like a weapon. I’m sure that just makes you all kinds of happy, doesn’t it?
Whites see the microaggressions. I wouldn't be having this conversation on a job unless it was job relted. Becayuse despite your finest whining and attempts at white victmhood, I would be fired for having such a conversation and you probably would not. Now the reality here is that whites created this problem becuse of the 248 years of consistent white racism that has been imposed on blacks and all people of color in this country. Nobody throws the R word around like a weapon, that is a serious charge. Really the only people who throw that word around when it doesn't apply are specificly whites on the right. The fact that you believe you can argue with me about why blacks vote republican and despite my being black and telling you why, you still believe that yur explanation is right, comes from a white supremacist mindset.
You really need to study such things before you argue. I doubt if yu know what a microgression is. Or unconscious bias. Reading stuff from Chrs Rufo won't cut it
No, I told you of why there is a pattern of 90% of black people voting democrat, and you have confirmed those statements here in this thread.
And again, you come from a white supremacist mindset whereby you don't listen to a black person tell you why we vote democrat. Instead you believe that what you think overrides the reasons a black person tells you.
No, I simply pointed to reasons that I’ve read on the internet about why black people are so monolithic in their voting, and you’ve confirmed it.
And I d pn't have to red smething on theinternetto know why blacks vote democrt. I am black. The fact is that we are fiscally conservtive and socially progressive. I don't need to read something written on 538 to learn about back people. Blacks are not monolithic, but most black face type same set of issues. Tax breaks for the rich, corporte welfare and privatizing everything are not policies that will hep us. You come from a simplistic pov and you don't want to listen because you're white and you know more about being back from reading stuff on the internet than I do from living as an actual black person.
What whites are favoring segregation? Where do you see Jim Crow style beliefs of segregation and relegating blacks as second class citizens?
When you oppose equal opportunity polices, you are working to return to Jim Crow.
I have yet to hear anyone say you shouldn’t vote for Harris because she is black. If anyone is being influenced to not vote for her, it’s probably based on normal political things. You know..her record.
You need to stop lying. Whites make things about race while not specificaly mentioning race. This has been done since reconstruction ended. You tak about her record, she was VP, she made no policy. But if you want to attch her to Biden and talk about records, then you shoud not be voting for trump. When things that say joe and theho mustg were being said by Repubicans, we as bac [people can cerly see the racism thats in effect.
You don’t have 2 white men running. You have a democrat, and you have republican who has been hounded for 9 straight years, and some people see that for what it is. They see the 34 charges as just the dems lawfare nature.
There has been no hounding or lawfare. Trump hs broken laws. You are so brainwshed by the wish to return to white supremcy trump promises you that you beieve every lie he tells you. Lawfare by democrts are not why a grand jury indicted him or a jury found him guilty of all 34 counts. A the jurors in both instances were not Democrts. It's time the Lying stopped.
No it’s not. She DID have an affair with a guy 30 years her senior, and this guy DID get her appointments that helped launch her career. It had nothing to do with racism. Had she been white, the same accusations and the same words would have been used. There have been white women and men who have garnered ire and ridicule as Harris…
Harris was a DA when she met Brown. Furthermore she got into politics 8 years after she left Brown. They were togetherfor a year and Brown ws not withhis whie. Now contrst that to trump. 5 children with 3 different women, all of who he has cheated on. Melania is 24 years younger than trump and he first got wth her when he ws married. Payoffs to porno hos to keep quiet to not hurt him politically, but Harris is being called all kinds of things while excuses are made for trump. That's racism plain and simple.
Have I ever denied racism exists? Not once.
You deny it in upcoming quotes.
I’ve given you the evidence, hell, YOUVE given the evidence. In your very response.
What YOU think is evidence isn't. You cannot grasp the importance of blacks not wanting other blacks to vote for policies that wil hurt our community. Policies that will literally kill us.
Yes, you have been taught, through pressure and social stigma (which you, yourself, have just admitted to) that voting a certain way is frowned upon. A 90% voting pattern just doesn’t perpetuate itself naturally. Black people have been voting democrat for decades, and in the black community, that’s just what you do, and if you dont, well, you get what we see in this thread, what you just said, what Obama just said.
You have shown us this time and again, ever black person who votes Republican and pusheLs back against the narrative that is being set, gets called. Tom, or sellout. No, THOSE people can’t think for themselves, because they are thinking wrong…
Look white boy, you are incapble of teing me wht I hve beentught. Whaaat I have seen, as mny oter blacks have seen is thatthepoiciesof the Repubican party renot inour bestinterest. The majorityof Asains, Hispanics, Native Americans and ethnic groups like Jews are Democrts. Are they all "taught" the sme thing? Your white opinon is wrong, plain and sImpLe. Blacks who work to help republicans implement the white supremcist agenda they want to impement will be called what they are. They are not thinking for themselves when they are black and opposing policies that have alowed them to live as they do. No amount of gaslighting from white pricks ike you is going to change the way we feel about blacks who are working to implement anti black policies.
What is it that you think republicans are denying you? What opportunity do you not have that you see white people getting?
I understand, decades ago, things WERE bad, but this is 2024, and we’ve come a long way since then, are we perfect as a society? No, but if you’re telling me that there are things you are held back from doing because of your skin color, I’d like to hear about it, and who’s doing it.
I'm watchiing white racism occurring today. In 2024. You see it too. You might even be participting in it. So just shut up.
Because there is no racism, I just don’t agree with what you are saying. Granted, to you, disagreement is racism I guess.
You are too ignorant to see your own racism. The fact that you think you can disagree with a black man on why backs vote democrt and you are white is evidence of how you believe that you are superor to me. I have lived experience being black. I have talked to thousands of blacks over my lifetme about politics and issues and yet you think that your opinion based on not being black and a belief created by white racists of why blacks vote Democrat is the correct one. Paternalism is part of racism white man. Learn that.
Because DEI is, in itself, a policy based on skin color, and, it’s a policy meant to specifically exclude white people. How you don’t see that as being a problem is beyond me.
I see society as a place where everyone has equal opportunity. If you do your job, work hard, and make good choices, then you will succeed. Skin color should never be a factor in any of that.
White is a race. Learn that. Whites are hired more than anyone else based in skin color. DEI does not excude whites. DEI was created because whites excluded everybody else. Whites are already hired and promoted in situations where DEI is implemented, so whites are not left out. Whites are not entitled to every job, and every promotion. Stop reding the grbage from white rce hustlers.
Did Trump said he wanted to target black and brown people? He said he wanted to go back to stop and frisk, if this is causing black and brown people to be targeted excessively, then that is a problem with the local police. Now if you are telling me that trump is telling the police to over sample black and brown people, then I agree, that’s problem.
Again, white racism doesn't work like it did in the 1950's. So if you are waiting for someone white to say we will target blacks with stop and frisk, then you will remain stupid about how racism works todyy. Expressing the desire to return to a policy that has been shown to trget blacks/hispanics is targeting backs/hispanics. I realy believe that you're being disingenuous here and this kind of mess from white republicans gets old.
You mean criticism of perceived racist behavior. Remember, apparently only black people can see this racist behavior. If you are any indication of the standard for what constitutes racism, it’s no wonder why people push back, everything is racist to you.
And here you deny the existence of white racism today. There are whites who see this. There are Asians who see it. There are hispanics who see it. There re Native Americans who see it. Its not just blacks. There are whites in this forum who see the racism coming from the right. The only people who have a "problem" seeing it are the racists on the right. We see the racism here being practiced while you guys deny it.
White folks have been working on their issues and they have come a long way, but people like you won’t ever be happy. You’ll always keep moving the goal post. For every stride they take to move away from racism, you’ll pull the goal post a little further away. That’s where people like Robin DiAngelo come in, where keeping racism alive is her money maker. She came along and invented this thing called “unconscious bias” and micro aggression” as a way to make it so that white peoples can never cure the issues of racism, because apparently they can’t see it, so they need other people to tell them about their racial biases, and when you do that, the problem will never get solved.
It’s kind of like the old peanuts cartoon where Charlie’s tries to kick the football, but Lucy pulls it away at the last minute…that’s what we have here.
Whites woring to ed white racist behavior are not the ones keeping it alive. Nobody has moved anything hereis another white racist beief you hve expressed.
The problem here has been white backlash. In every stage where non whies have tried to erase a method of white racism, there has been a backlash from part of the white community. After slavery, the backlash was Jim Crow. After Jim Crow we see the Laissez Faire racism that exists now. Go study what that is and you will see that you have the behavior. So in short, it has been whites ike yourself who have consistenty moved the goalposts because you have never really wanted racial equality.
lol, you’ve said this, because obviously anyone who has this point of view couldn’t possibly be black. Once again, you are pigeon holing black people into a particular character, that in order to be black, you MUST think a certain way. I.E. “think like this or you are disingenuous”
You are white. And you have done the pigeonholing. You are the one who believes that backs who vote democrt are not thinking for themselves. Thats pigeonholing and those like you do it all the time. Now I'm sure you would denigrate anyone white who voted for a party that really was implementing things that woud take away rghts that whites have worked for. You guys do it now to white liberals because you imagine they are trying to destroy whites. Yet you think it's wrong for blacks to oppose blacks who support policies that will cause harm to our community. You really have probems.
Good grief man, it’s like you’re writing my arguments for me….
I'm not writing your argument. I'm telling you how we think, based on the policies Republicans offer. But your white supremcist mindset doesn't allow you to believe that the black man might just know more about why we feel as we do about blacks who vote for the dracionian and racist policies of the current republican party than you.
There are no white supremacist policies, even if there were, how would Trump know? Apparently only you are able to see the racism…if Trump can’t see his unconscious bias, how is he supposed to fix it and his racist ways?
And once again, it has to be said, because I know where you are going to go with this…I understand that racism DOES exist, I’ve never denied that, it’s just not as prevalent in society as you believe. We still have work to do as a society to fix issues, but if someone were to listen to you, theyd get the impression we were still living in the 60’s
The Republican party is controlled by white supremacists and it starts with Trump. Trumps bais is not unconscious. You apparently DO NOT KNOW how prevalent racism is today because you are here showing your own racism yet you want to claim that you're being called racist only because you disagree with me. But what is your disagreement with me based on? Lived experence as a black person? Were you once black, then turned white and in your experience found that blacks were taught at a young age to vote democrat? In your life as a black person were you a republican and called an Uncle Tom just because you were republican, or was it because you supported Republicans even when their policies were detrimental to blacks?
Because the thing you don't know, is that there are back Republicans who don't get calLed such things. There are black Republicans in our community who are well respected. And there are black republicans who in this election will not vote for trump and who have condemned the black RepubLicans who do. So you don't have an argument. You believe a bunch of white rcist mimbo jumbp. And that's the bottom line.
