Raven Symone Says She’s ‘american’ Not ‘african-american’

[Asclepias]

Uh oh, she's an Uncle Tom now !

Hardly. That was funny trying to picture her as an uncle tom and I'm not seeing it.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Yeah dude, remember they can be prideful about the color of their skin, but you can't.

 

[Asclepias]

Yeah dude, remember they can be prideful about the color of their skin, but you can't.

Anyone can be prideful of the color of their skin. No law against it.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Uh oh, she's an Uncle Tom now !

Hardly. That was funny trying to picture her as an uncle tom and I'm not seeing it.

By dropping the "African" part of the designation, she gives the impression she's trying to hide who she is.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Yeah dude, remember they can be prideful about the color of their skin, but you can't.

Anyone can be prideful of the color of their skin. No law against it.

I agree, but the moment a white person say's they're proud to be white, their labeled a racist, a KKK member, etc.

 

[Asclepias]

Uh oh, she's an Uncle Tom now !

Hardly. That was funny trying to picture her as an uncle tom and I'm not seeing it.

By dropping the "African" part of the designation, she gives the impression she's trying to hide who she is.

I thought she was saying she didnt want to be labeled as anything other than an american.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Except Oprah didnt flip. She warned Raven that some people would be upset.

Why would she do that( Oprah)...
Becuawse we live in aworkd with a bunch of useless hypersensitive douche bags who go through their day searching for things with which to bother themselves.
And for every 100 or so of these assholes is some POS media type who has no ideas for a story, so they resort to "breaking news "(Fill in name of group) offended by comments!!!!!!!!"
Useless piles of organic material. Every one of them.

Because she knows that Black people are very particular about identifying themselves. It will be seen as a refutation of her being a Black person even though anyone that has watched the girl knows she is definitely pro Black.

I have no idea what your post means.
I think Ms Samone is trying to say she considers herself an American and that is all anyone needs to know.
I do think you are offended by her comments. Why?
Because of some silly ritual made up by a few people who think the identity of an individual is more important than the individual?
I commend her for walking off the reservation. She is a true American. An individual who sees herself as a person with the ability to take herself as far as her abilities will permit. And no one can stop her.

What confused you about my post and what makes you think I'm offended? I call myself Black/African American and I have taken myself farther than most of the people in this country.

That wasn't my question. I asked you why black people are particular about identifying themselves.

 

[Asclepias]

Yeah dude, remember they can be prideful about the color of their skin, but you can't.

Anyone can be prideful of the color of their skin. No law against it.

I agree, but the moment a white person say's they're proud to be white, their labeled a racist, a KKK member, etc.

Thats probably because the 2 usually wind up being true. What have whites done that has anything to do with the color of their skin that is something to be proud of?

Black people have achieved in spite of being oppressed colonized etc. What have whites overcome? You can say you are proud to be Irish or Jewish etc but white? Not unless you want someone to laugh at you or call you a racist.

 

[Asclepias]

Except Oprah didnt flip. She warned Raven that some people would be upset.

Why would she do that( Oprah)...
Becuawse we live in aworkd with a bunch of useless hypersensitive douche bags who go through their day searching for things with which to bother themselves.
And for every 100 or so of these assholes is some POS media type who has no ideas for a story, so they resort to "breaking news "(Fill in name of group) offended by comments!!!!!!!!"
Useless piles of organic material. Every one of them.

Because she knows that Black people are very particular about identifying themselves. It will be seen as a refutation of her being a Black person even though anyone that has watched the girl knows she is definitely pro Black.

I have no idea what your post means.
I think Ms Samone is trying to say she considers herself an American and that is all anyone needs to know.
I do think you are offended by her comments. Why?
Because of some silly ritual made up by a few people who think the identity of an individual is more important than the individual?
I commend her for walking off the reservation. She is a true American. An individual who sees herself as a person with the ability to take herself as far as her abilities will permit. And no one can stop her.

What confused you about my post and what makes you think I'm offended? I call myself Black/African American and I have taken myself farther than most of the people in this country.

That wasn't my question. I asked you why black people are particular about identifying themselves.

That was your question. You even quoted it.

I do think you are offended by her comments. Why?

 

[thereisnospoon]

Except Oprah didnt flip. She warned Raven that some people would be upset.

Why would she do that( Oprah)...
Becuawse we live in aworkd with a bunch of useless hypersensitive douche bags who go through their day searching for things with which to bother themselves.
And for every 100 or so of these assholes is some POS media type who has no ideas for a story, so they resort to "breaking news "(Fill in name of group) offended by comments!!!!!!!!"
Useless piles of organic material. Every one of them.

Because she knows that Black people are very particular about identifying themselves. It will be seen as a refutation of her being a Black person even though anyone that has watched the girl knows she is definitely pro Black.

And why are "black people very particular about identifying themselves"?.....It's pretty easy to tell. I mean, it's stating the obvious.
BTW Ms Samone never stated she did not acknowledge her race. She plainly and clearly stated she did not wish to label herself as "African"..Because she's not. She IS an American. Born in Louisiana.

Because they want to be.

Because it gives them a collective identity.

Because it instills pride.

Because the moon rises and the sun sets.

I know she didnt hide from her race. What are you upset about?

A collective identity? Oh please. That implies black people are not individuals but are a collective group. That's nonsense. I think you may be living in a different era. The "community" thing is what drags people down.
You just got through stating that you've achieved a certain amount of success. THAT is what I refer to. This idea that a person can do whatever they wish to the best of their ability but somehow must relate to their "collective" is nonsense. Trust me. the group is not worried about you. They are concerned with your not leaving the collective.
Pride is instilled by one's individual achievements. Not by their demographic.
You really don't have a reason other than your programming has you believing you have some kind of obligation to your so called collective identity.
That's all. Have a good evening.

 

[OriginalShroom]

 

[thereisnospoon]

Yeah dude, remember they can be prideful about the color of their skin, but you can't.

Anyone can be prideful of the color of their skin. No law against it.

I agree, but the moment a white person say's they're proud to be white, their labeled a racist, a KKK member, etc.

Thats probably because the 2 usually wind up being true. What have whites done that has anything to do with the color of their skin that is something to be proud of?

Black people have achieved in spite of being oppressed colonized etc. What have whites overcome? You can say you are proud to be Irish or Jewish etc but white? Not unless you want someone to laugh at you or call you a racist.

"That's probably because the 2 usually wind up being true.".
Ahh. You evoke a racist double standard. It's ok for black people to have a "collective identity", but others may not. Are those your rules? Or are those the rules of your collective identity?
"What have whites done that has anything to do with the color of their skin that is something to be proud of?"
The question is invalid. We are not programmed to think that way. We are individuals. We do not make our way through life then start crowing about how skin tone has anything to do with it. That kind of identity issue is your cross to bear.
We do not think that anything we achieve is due to "whiteness'....Do you believe your achievements are due to your "blackness"?
And while we're on the subject of identity, when and how does one not qualify as being "not black enough"....?
That one always intrigued me.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Why would she do that( Oprah)...
Becuawse we live in aworkd with a bunch of useless hypersensitive douche bags who go through their day searching for things with which to bother themselves.
And for every 100 or so of these assholes is some POS media type who has no ideas for a story, so they resort to "breaking news "(Fill in name of group) offended by comments!!!!!!!!"
Useless piles of organic material. Every one of them.

Because she knows that Black people are very particular about identifying themselves. It will be seen as a refutation of her being a Black person even though anyone that has watched the girl knows she is definitely pro Black.

I have no idea what your post means.
I think Ms Samone is trying to say she considers herself an American and that is all anyone needs to know.
I do think you are offended by her comments. Why?
Because of some silly ritual made up by a few people who think the identity of an individual is more important than the individual?
I commend her for walking off the reservation. She is a true American. An individual who sees herself as a person with the ability to take herself as far as her abilities will permit. And no one can stop her.

What confused you about my post and what makes you think I'm offended? I call myself Black/African American and I have taken myself farther than most of the people in this country.

That wasn't my question. I asked you why black people are particular about identifying themselves.

That was your question. You even quoted it.

I do think you are offended by her comments. Why?

Your follow up appeared before I was able to see it.

 

[Asclepias]

Except Oprah didnt flip. She warned Raven that some people would be upset.

Why would she do that( Oprah)...
Becuawse we live in aworkd with a bunch of useless hypersensitive douche bags who go through their day searching for things with which to bother themselves.
And for every 100 or so of these assholes is some POS media type who has no ideas for a story, so they resort to "breaking news "(Fill in name of group) offended by comments!!!!!!!!"
Useless piles of organic material. Every one of them.

Because she knows that Black people are very particular about identifying themselves. It will be seen as a refutation of her being a Black person even though anyone that has watched the girl knows she is definitely pro Black.

And why are "black people very particular about identifying themselves"?.....It's pretty easy to tell. I mean, it's stating the obvious.
BTW Ms Samone never stated she did not acknowledge her race. She plainly and clearly stated she did not wish to label herself as "African"..Because she's not. She IS an American. Born in Louisiana.

Because they want to be.

Because it gives them a collective identity.

Because it instills pride.

Because the moon rises and the sun sets.

I know she didnt hide from her race. What are you upset about?

A collective identity? Oh please. That implies black people are not individuals but are a collective group. That's nonsense. I think you may be living in a different era. The "community" thing is what drags people down.
You just got through stating that you've achieved a certain amount of success. THAT is what I refer to. This idea that a person can do whatever they wish to the best of their ability but somehow must relate to their "collective" is nonsense. Trust me. the group is not worried about you. They are concerned with your not leaving the collective.
Pride is instilled by one's individual achievements. Not by their demographic.
You really don't have a reason other than your programming has you believing you have some kind of obligation to your so called collective identity.
That's all. Have a good evening.

Collective is a group of individuals fool. My success is not tied to my group. Just my identity. I never said anyone had to do anything. I said I choose to. I have plenty of pride in the achievements of other Black/African Americans so you are flat out wrong about that. Your group may not applaud your success but mine does. I have a million reasons to offer. You claiming I dont is an exercise in futility and frustration because you dont have it like me.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Yeah dude, remember they can be prideful about the color of their skin, but you can't.

Anyone can be prideful of the color of their skin. No law against it.

PLease do not insult our intelligence. The mere moment right after a Caucasian person elicits a sense of pride in his heritage out loud, he or she is immediately labeled a racist or bigot. This is a perfect example of liberal double standard.

 

[Asclepias]

Yeah dude, remember they can be prideful about the color of their skin, but you can't.

Anyone can be prideful of the color of their skin. No law against it.

I agree, but the moment a white person say's they're proud to be white, their labeled a racist, a KKK member, etc.

Thats probably because the 2 usually wind up being true. What have whites done that has anything to do with the color of their skin that is something to be proud of?

Black people have achieved in spite of being oppressed colonized etc. What have whites overcome? You can say you are proud to be Irish or Jewish etc but white? Not unless you want someone to laugh at you or call you a racist.

"That's probably because the 2 usually wind up being true.".
Ahh. You evoke a racist double standard. It's ok for black people to have a "collective identity", but others may not. Are those your rules? Or are those the rules of your collective identity?
"What have whites done that has anything to do with the color of their skin that is something to be proud of?"
The question is invalid. We are not programmed to think that way. We are individuals. We do not make our way through life then start crowing about how skin tone has anything to do with it. That kind of identity issue is your cross to bear.
We do not think that anything we achieve is due to "whiteness'....Do you believe your achievements are due to your "blackness"?
And while we're on the subject of identity, when and how does one not qualify as being "not black enough"....?
That one always intrigued me.

Why do white people always pull the double standard argument out their ass? It has nothing to do with being ok. The facts are you can say you have pride in being white but you cant point to a single hardship you endured and overcame due to the color of your skin. Can you name even one thing worthy of being proud of as a white person that doesnt involve racism?

 

[Asclepias]

Yeah dude, remember they can be prideful about the color of their skin, but you can't.

Anyone can be prideful of the color of their skin. No law against it.

PLease do not insult our intelligence. The mere moment right after a Caucasian person elicits a sense of pride in his heritage out loud, he or she is immediately labeled a racist or bigot. This is a perfect example of liberal double standard.

I cant insult what you dont have. I already told you that claiming you are proud of being white only points to a racist conclusion. Nothing was done as white people that you have to be proud of.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Yeah dude, remember they can be prideful about the color of their skin, but you can't.

Anyone can be prideful of the color of their skin. No law against it.

I agree, but the moment a white person say's they're proud to be white, their labeled a racist, a KKK member, etc.

Thats probably because the 2 usually wind up being true. What have whites done that has anything to do with the color of their skin that is something to be proud of?

Black people have achieved in spite of being oppressed colonized etc. What have whites overcome? You can say you are proud to be Irish or Jewish etc but white? Not unless you want someone to laugh at you or call you a racist.

So it's not racist to say you're proud to be black, but if a white person says it, well their most likely a racist. Got it.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Yeah dude, remember they can be prideful about the color of their skin, but you can't.

Anyone can be prideful of the color of their skin. No law against it.

I agree, but the moment a white person say's they're proud to be white, their labeled a racist, a KKK member, etc.

Thats probably because the 2 usually wind up being true. What have whites done that has anything to do with the color of their skin that is something to be proud of?

Black people have achieved in spite of being oppressed colonized etc. What have whites overcome? You can say you are proud to be Irish or Jewish etc but white? Not unless you want someone to laugh at you or call you a racist.

"That's probably because the 2 usually wind up being true.".
Ahh. You evoke a racist double standard. It's ok for black people to have a "collective identity", but others may not. Are those your rules? Or are those the rules of your collective identity?
"What have whites done that has anything to do with the color of their skin that is something to be proud of?"
The question is invalid. We are not programmed to think that way. We are individuals. We do not make our way through life then start crowing about how skin tone has anything to do with it. That kind of identity issue is your cross to bear.
We do not think that anything we achieve is due to "whiteness'....Do you believe your achievements are due to your "blackness"?
And while we're on the subject of identity, when and how does one not qualify as being "not black enough"....?
That one always intrigued me.

Why do white people always pull the double standard argument out their ass? It has nothing to do with being ok. The facts are you can say you have pride in being white but you cant point to a single hardship you endured and overcame due to the color of your skin. Can you name even one thing worthy of being proud of as a white person that doesnt involve racism?

I'm proud my race has given the world pretty much all of the worlds modern technology. I don't want to brag about my race though.

 

[Asclepias]

Anyone can be prideful of the color of their skin. No law against it.

I agree, but the moment a white person say's they're proud to be white, their labeled a racist, a KKK member, etc.

Thats probably because the 2 usually wind up being true. What have whites done that has anything to do with the color of their skin that is something to be proud of?

Black people have achieved in spite of being oppressed colonized etc. What have whites overcome? You can say you are proud to be Irish or Jewish etc but white? Not unless you want someone to laugh at you or call you a racist.

"That's probably because the 2 usually wind up being true.".
Ahh. You evoke a racist double standard. It's ok for black people to have a "collective identity", but others may not. Are those your rules? Or are those the rules of your collective identity?
"What have whites done that has anything to do with the color of their skin that is something to be proud of?"
The question is invalid. We are not programmed to think that way. We are individuals. We do not make our way through life then start crowing about how skin tone has anything to do with it. That kind of identity issue is your cross to bear.
We do not think that anything we achieve is due to "whiteness'....Do you believe your achievements are due to your "blackness"?
And while we're on the subject of identity, when and how does one not qualify as being "not black enough"....?
That one always intrigued me.

Why do white people always pull the double standard argument out their ass? It has nothing to do with being ok. The facts are you can say you have pride in being white but you cant point to a single hardship you endured and overcame due to the color of your skin. Can you name even one thing worthy of being proud of as a white person that doesnt involve racism?

I'm proud my race has given the world pretty much all of the worlds modern technology. I don't want to brag about my race though.

But they didnt. Your race would still be in caves if not taught by Blacks and other cultures. Next false assumption?