Random lawyer jumps in.

[Missourian]

Dude just leaps into the frame out of nowhere. Without him, I expect this kid would have been found guilty.

 

[Anathema]

These are the type of lawyers who need to be dragged out behind a dumpster and beaten to a pulp.

 

[airplanemechanic]

I watched this the day it happened. I'm subbed to this judges channel. This is judge Fleisher out of Houston. This is the most fair judge I've ever seen. The kid was 17 and pulled a gun on someone who attacked someone he loved. He didn't shoot anyone, he protected the ones he loved. And for that, got charged for having a gun at 17. Had he not had the gun, the person could have been killed. He had no criminal background prior to this. The judge said you have a right to protect those you love, period. No PC to continue.

This was not the trial, this was just a probable cause hearing. He wasn't going to jail that day anyway. The lawyer prevented it from even going to trial.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Lawyers should uphold the law. They make a good living, sometimes a man has to remember his oath and his principles and if he can help a poor kid with proper legal assistance, good for him.

Police need to do the same. In Canada, from the RCMP to the lowly TPS, they treat the young and poor as cattle. This is a disgrace and a big reason why America and Canada are so different and why Trump says the U.S is subsidizing our economy. Is he wrong?

 

[airplanemechanic]

The OP's video is deceptively edited. That lawyer was in the courtroom and heard the full PC hearing and realized he was being charged simply for defending people he loved.

If you want to see the full unedited video, go here and FF to 1:06:30.

 

[Missourian]

The OP's video is deceptively edited. That lawyer was in the courtroom and heard the full PC hearing and realized he was being charged simply for defending people he loved.

If you want to see the full unedited video, go here and FF to 1:06:30.

Thanks for this.

I like this judge as well... except for his choice of suits.

 

[BackAgain]

These are the type of lawyers who need to be dragged out behind a dumpster and beaten to a pulp.

Why?

For stepping up to help a person accused of a crime? Not charging anything for that client, either. Just pro bono.

It’s actually perfectly ok to offer legal assistance to an accused person in a court room. (Normally, the client should probably at least have met the lawyer, first.)

 

[Anathema]

Why?

For stepping up to help a person accused of a crime? Not charging anything for that client, either. Just pro bono.

It’s actually perfectly ok to offer legal assistance to an accused person in a court room. (Normally, the client should probably at least have met the lawyer, first.)

I have major issues with our entire legal system, from its basic structure down to the concept of innocent until guilty and the protections of the duty amendment. Likewise, I have little to no use for those individuals involved in the system.

One of my largest concerns is with a system where individuals (lawyers especially) will work to get someone they know to be guilty found not guilty. Especially in regard to moral and violent crimes… like illegal possession of a weapon.

 

[BackAgain]

I have major issues with our entire legal system, from its basic structure down to the concept of innocent until guilty and the protections of the duty amendment. Likewise, I have little to no use for those individuals involved in the system.

One of my largest concerns is with a system where individuals (lawyers especially) will work to get someone they know to be guilty found not guilty. Especially in regard to moral and violent crimes… like illegal possession of a weapon.

You aren’t alone. But I see your view on that topic as very myopic. Obviously, I don’t speak for anyone else. If they agree with you, I find that very sad; and if they agree with me, I hope they are in the significant majority.

It’s very difficult to imagine a legal system (in the criminal law realm) where an Me accused of a crime is presumed guilty. Society would not benefit, imho.

 

[Anathema]

You aren’t alone. But I see your view on that topic as very myopic. Obviously, I don’t speak for anyone else. If they agree with you, I find that very sad; and if they agree with me, I hope they are in the significant majority.

It’s very difficult to imagine a legal system (in the criminal law realm) where an Me accused of a crime is presumed guilty. Society would not benefit, imho.

I had one run-in with the legal system… as a juror in 2003. Those two days destroyed whatever faith I might have ever had in the system.

I’m not suggesting a presumption of guilt. I’m suggesting no presumption at all… guilt or innocence. Both sides get to make their case, and if the prosecution can convince the jurors beyond a reasonable doubt, so be it.

In a perfect system I’d prefer professional jurors and defense attorneys expected to simply attempt to get the most appropriate punishment for their guilty clients rather than wasting our time trying to get them found not guilty.

 

[BackAgain]

I had one run-in with the legal system… as a juror in 2003. Those two days destroyed whatever faith I might have ever had in the system.

I’m not suggesting a presumption of guilt. I’m suggesting no presumption at all… guilt or innocence. Both sides get to make their case, and if the prosecution can convince the jurors beyond a reasonable doubt, so be it.

In a perfect system I’d prefer professional jurors and defense attorneys expected to simply attempt to get the most appropriate punishment for their guilty clients rather than wasting our time trying to get them found not guilty.

Interesting.

I suppose this is a side note to the topic of this thread. But it might make an interesting thread on its own

So, to get us all back ON TOPIC, I have to say that the lawyer who jumped-in (a) helped the person accused who had no representation at that moment; (b) helped the court by getting the accused off the hook nice and early, instead of wasting the court’s time; and

(c) should have been wearing a damn neck tie. And the judge looked a bit too under robed too.

 

[Anathema]

… I have to say that the lawyer who jumped-in (a) helped the person accused who had no representation at that moment; (b) helped the court by getting the accused off the hook nice and early, instead of wasting the court’s time; and

(c) should have been wearing a damn neck tie. And the judge looked a bit too under robed too.

He helped put a guilty and potentially dangerous SOB back on the streets. IF thst individual causes harm to anyone, I hope that they/their survivors surest lawyer for every penny they have ever and may ever make.

 

[BackAgain]

He helped put a guilty and potentially dangerous SOB back on the streets. IF thst individual causes harm to anyone, I hope that they/their survivors surest lawyer for every penny they have ever and may ever make.

Anybody who “committed” any actual alleged crime might get acquitted.

That’s not a dire result. In fact, in some ways, it’s a good thing.

But, again, I believe it’s off topic for this particular thread.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Anybody who “committed” any actual alleged crime might get acquitted.

That’s not a dire result. In fact, in some ways, it’s a good thing.

But, again, I believe it’s off topic for this particular thread.

He's nutter than squirrel shit.