Radical Environmentalism

[mamooth]

AJ clearly has a Gore-crush.

Everyone else just ignores Gore, being he's not a scientist. But since all the science contradicts the deniers, deniers can only resort to obsessing over politicians, and pushing the various political cult conspiracy theories that they BELIEVE without questioning.

 

[elektra]

AJ clearly has a Gore-crush.

Everyone else just ignores Gore, being he's not a scientist. But since all the science contradicts the deniers, deniers can only resort to obsessing over politicians, and pushing the various political cult conspiracy theories that they BELIEVE without questioning.

Politicians? That is Government, right? And all I see you do is call people deniers while linking to political sites, government sites, which only push theories?

 

[American_Jihad]

AJ clearly has a Gore-crush.

Everyone else just ignores Gore, being he's not a scientist. But since all the science contradicts the deniers, deniers can only resort to obsessing over politicians, and pushing the various political cult conspiracy theories that they BELIEVE without questioning.

 

[Crick]

So, AJ, you ADMIT you're obsessed with Gore?

 

[American_Jihad]

10 Ways Al Gore Was Wrong About Global Warming
Larry Tomczak
2/16/2016
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"The sky is falling! The sky is falling! Wake up before it's too late!"

Soon Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth will celebrate its 10th anniversary. The film revealed the "grave" threat of global warming. On Jan. 26, 2006, The Washington Post stated Al "believes humanity may have only 10 years left to save the planet from turning into a total frying pan."

My Tennessee neighbor won an Oscar and Nobel Prize for sounding the alarm in book and film as a Climate Control Caped Crusader.

Gore crisscrossed countries waving his arms, passionately declaring, "We can't wait. ... We have a planetary emergency. ... The future of human civilization is at stake! ... Global warming is the greatest challenge we've ever faced!" This is no exaggeration.

In an article highlighting his tireless service for humanity, The Washington Post labeled him "the world's most renowned crusader on climate change." Wow! And remember he almost became President of the United States were it not for a few "hanging chads" that didn't go to his column.

President Obama subsequently picked up the "crisis" telling world leaders that "climate change (not Islamic terrorism or skyrocketing, unsustainable debt) is the No. 1 issue facing us today." At the recent Global Paris Summit he pushed this agenda with urgency. The cost of his United Nations Global Warming Treaty came in at $12.1 trillion or $484 billion dollars yearly according to Bloomberg.

Gore's efforts made him an environmental hero but took a tragic toll on his marriage. His marriage of 40 years to Tipper ended in a shocking divorce.

Today, 68-year-old Gore alternates residence in two gorgeous, spacious homes in Nashville and California.

Leaving his V.P. office with assets of $2 million, Gore now has wealth estimated at over $100 million. Al's movie cost $1 million and brought in $50 million. He hauls in at least $100,000 in speaking fees, is tied to at least 14 green-tech firms, sits strategically on certain boards, plus benefits from Obama grants and millions in tax breaks. He's on his way to becoming what one congressional leader called "our first carbon billionaire."

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Here's the Deal:

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Gore's Predictions Fall Flat

Ten years after Al Gore's "Inconvenient Truth" guilt/fear producing predictions, let's close by examining just how accurate his "science" proved to be on his way to the bank.

1. Rising Sea Levels—inaccurate and misleading. Al was even discovered purchasing a beachfront mansion!

2. Increased Tornadoes—declining for decades.

3. New Ice Age in Europe—they've been spared; it never happened.

4. South Sahara Drying Up—completely untrue.

5. Massive Flooding in China and India—again, didn't happen.

6. Melting Arctic—false—2015 represents the largest refreezing in years.

7. Polar Bear Extinction—actually they are increasing!

8. Temperature Increases Due to CO2—no significant rising for over 18 years

9. Katrina a Foreshadow of the Future—false—past 10 years, no F3 hurricanes; "longest drought ever!"

10. The Earth Would be in a "True Planetary Emergency" Within a Decade Unless Drastic Action Taken to Reduce Greenhouse Gasses—never happened.

A while back, the Washington Post stated in an expose that, "Al Gore has thrived as a green-tech investor." Coincidental?

Was it also coincidental that at the recent Climate Summit in Paris, there was a red carpet debut of a dynamic new film Climate Hustle just down the street?

This groundbreaking film exposing the junk science of global warming will be seen on Capitol Hill, in theaters, then on DVD soon. Check it out at climatehustle.org.http://www.climatehustle.org/

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10 Ways Al Gore Was Wrong About Global Warming

 

[mamooth]

The normal propaganda. Either those predictions weren't ever actually made, or they came true and you're pretending they didn't. I mean seriously, denying the directly observed temperature increase and sea level increase? That puts you squarely into the "delusional" camp.

The ongoing fixation with Gore is ilustrating. Here on the rational side, we pay attention to data, not personalities. We can do that, because all the science supports us. All the science contradicts the denier cult, so they have to shift focus somehow, and they do that by attacking specific people.

 

[jc456]

The normal propaganda. Either those predictions weren't ever actually made, or they came true and you're pretending they didn't. I mean seriously, denying the directly observed temperature increase and sea level increase? That puts you squarely into the "delusional" camp.

The ongoing fixation with Gore is ilustrating. Here on the rational side, we pay attention to data, not personalities. We can do that, because all the science supports us. All the science contradicts the denier cult, so they have to shift focus somehow, and they do that by attacking specific people.

 

[American_Jihad]

The normal propaganda. Either those predictions weren't ever actually made, or they came true and you're pretending they didn't. I mean seriously, denying the directly observed temperature increase and sea level increase? That puts you squarely into the "delusional" camp.

The ongoing fixation with Gore is ilustrating. Here on the rational side, we pay attention to data, not personalities. We can do that, because all the science supports us. All the science contradicts the denier cult, so they have to shift focus somehow, and they do that by attacking specific people.

MaMOO, clearly has a Gore-crush...

 

[Crick]

YOU are the one who brings up Gore over and over and over again, ignoring actual science, evidence, research, observations and all the rest of the evidence that shows the IPCC conclusions are exactly correct.

 

[jc456]

YOU are the one who brings up Gore over and over and over again, ignoring actual science, evidence, research, observations and all the rest of the evidence that shows the IPCC conclusions are exactly correct.

That there is a pause, you're exactly right.

 

[Crick]

If there was a pause - and I do not believe there was ever anything outside normal variance and do believe in the results at which Karl et al 2015 arrived - the last several years of record global temperatures have marked it's clear end.

And if you're planning, as all of you seem to do now, on falling back on the unsupported charge that the data are all lies, there is no point in this conversation and in which case perhaps you should go home and tell the little girl next door about it the next time you play dress up; surely a more amenable audience.

 

[jc456]

If there was a pause - and I do not believe there was ever anything outside normal variance and do believe in the results at which Karl et al 2015 arrived - the last several years of record global temperatures have marked it's clear end.

And if you're planning, as all of you seem to do now, on falling back on the unsupported charge that the data are all lies, there is no point in this conversation and in which case perhaps you should go home and tell the little girl next door about it the next time you play dress up; surely a more amenable audience.

No, I reference the AR5 report that states that. So?

 

[Crick]

Are you suggesting that you accept the conclusions of AR5?

 

[Crick]

Either you accept AR5 and believe AGW to be valid or you reject AR5 and believe there has been no pause. Sound good?

 

[jc456]

Are you suggesting that you accept the conclusions of AR5?

I did? Hahahaha. Learn to read I merely stated the IPCC agrees with the pause, a position you won't take.

 

[Crick]

I did accept the reality of the pause when that was the latest expert position. Now it is not. The new consensus makes a great deal more sense.

 

[jc456]

I did accept the reality of the pause when that was the latest expert position. Now it is not. The new consensus makes a great deal more sense.

How did that change?

 

[Crick]

Karl et al 2015

 

[American_Jihad]

Dirty Big Green Criminalizes Climate Science
How corrupt and abusive the Green Mob has grown.
April 18, 2016
Daniel Greenfield

Big Green is big business. The global renewable energy market is estimated at over $600 billion. Obama’s stimulus boondoggle alone blew around $50 billion on green energy. Annual spending is somewhere around $39 billion a year and that’s just the tip of the Big Green iceberg.

California carbon auctions are climbing into the billions. And the endgame is a national and a global carbon tax that will allow Big Green to take money out of the pockets of every single human being.

Environmentalism isn’t a hippie with a cardboard sign. It’s multinational corporations and big banks. It’s environmental consultants padding the bill for every government project. It’s subsidies that get carved up ten different ways into highly profitable investments at taxpayer expense. It’s brand greenwashing and useless recycling programs. It’s a dime, a dollar or a hundred dollars added to every bill.

Big Green is booming business. But it can’t succeed on its own. Without public policy based on the hoax that the planet is going to be destroyed unless Big Green gets more green cash, the scam collapses.

Even as the science behind the conspiracy theory that claims humans are warming the planet continues to fall apart, Big Green is escalating its crackdown on climate science. If you are going to falsely claim that 99.99% of scientists agree with you, the best way to ensure that is by criminalizing scientific dissent.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has called for punishing and imprisoning dissenters. Bill Nye endorsed such a call just last week. And while it’s easy to dismiss Kennedy and Nye as famous crackpots, Attorney General Loretta Lynch admitted that there had been discussions about prosecuting climate dissenters. And that materials had been passed along to the FBI.

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The Big Green group of prosecutors was launched by Al Gore, whose Big Green investments have made him a very rich man. Gore is the chairman of Generation Investment Management, a UK investment management firm that focuses on environmental investments. Its funds are valued at $7.3 billion. Gore’s Inconvenient Truth ecohoax flick was financed by the head of the Capricorn Investment Group. Al Gore invests in Green Energy and then runs campaigns urging government Green investments.

Now Gore has moved beyond that blatant conflict of interest to trying to criminalize rival industries.

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We’ve gone way beyond mere lobbying here. This is an industry group of attorney generals vowing to shut down one industry on behalf of another. This is how abusively corrupt Big Green has become.

But beyond targeting industries, this is a coalition dedicated to targeting ideas.

Big Green and its big Democratic backers claim that they are only targeting industries. Their goal is to bankrupt gas and oil just like they bankrupted coal, leaving Americans with no choice except overpriced and unreliable Big Green energy. But their targets aren’t just industries and the people who work for them. They have their sights set on eliminating dissenting ideas that make their fraud possible.

The campaign against Exxon Mobil seeks to treat the funding of dissenting ideas about Global Warming as fraud. It’s impossible to escape the Galilean implications of climate heresy trials in such a move. But the subpoena against the Competitive Enterprise Institute targets critics of Big Green’s climate fraud more directly and is a major step in the suppression of free speech.

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And beyond lawsuits lies the shadow of the prison door.

The left is a fundamentally totalitarian movement. History is filled with examples that make it difficult for us to dismiss rhetoric about “locking up” critics as an empty threat. There is too much money and ideology depending on Big Green’s unsustainable greed. Big Green’s big investors are riding a tiger. They can’t get off or they’ll be eaten alive. They have no choice but to destroy their rivals and theirs critics.

And ordinary people, from coal miners to working families to scientists, have no choice but to resist.

Dirty Big Green Criminalizes Climate Science

 

[Billy_Bob]

I did accept the reality of the pause when that was the latest expert position. Now it is not. The new consensus makes a great deal more sense.

only in your fantasy world... In the real world its been cooling for over 14 years.