Racist woke Sarandon compaims ...

[HikerGuy83]

Third is that this has only been the USA for about 250 years, and America is a hemisphere, not a country.

A hemisphere ??????

Which America, dumbass ?

And I am sure Russia and Europe would love to be called America.

Good grief, you are stupid.

 

[HikerGuy83]

There is no possible excuse for flattening any buildings

Please tell us just what makes you an authority on what there is no excuse for.

Pontificating like an asshole is not a good answer.

 

[irosie91]

Boo hoo.
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Actress Susan Sarandon claims blacklisted over pro-"palestinian" rally, antisemitism.

Actress Susan Sarandon claims blacklisted over pro-Palestinian rally, antisemitism

Sarandon claimed that she had intended to express concern over antisemitic attacks and made “a terrible mistake” in the way she phrased it.

www.jpost.com

"Muslims subjected to violence in the USA" is a lesson muslims learned
from Imam Josef Goebbels. "if you repeat a gross lie often enough---
enough people will believe it" give it up islamo-nazi susie

 

[Rigby5]

They never signed it the 53 accords.

It does not matter what the US "signed" or not because we had no jurisdiction.
The UN charter became US law when congress ratified it, and that made the US interference in Vietnam illegal under US law.
Only the UN could have given us authorization to interfere in Vietnam, and that never happened.

 

[Rigby5]

Please tell us just what makes you an authority on what there is no excuse for.

Pontificating like an asshole is not a good answer.

The claim from Israel is that they are invading Gaza to secure the release of the hostages.
But we know the hostages have been kept in basements and tunnels, so then obviously flattening building is going to either kill the hostage outright, or bury them under tons of rubble.
There is no other possible logical conclusion.
It is impossible to secure the release of any hostages by collapsing buildings.

 

[HikerGuy83]

It does not matter what the US "signed" or not because we had no jurisdiction.

Yes it does, because there is nothing the UN can do with regards to legality. There is no jurisdiction when it comes to the UN. It's a waste of time and money.

The UN charter became US law when congress ratified it, and that made the US interference in Vietnam illegal under US law.

Bullshit. The UN charter is meaningless. It makes nothing legal or illegal. It states that members can't do anything that is inconsistent with "purposes" of the U.N.

Which means absoutely nothing.

Only the UN could have given us authorization to interfere in Vietnam, and that never happened.

ROTFLMAO

 

[HikerGuy83]

The claim from Israel is that they are invading Gaza to secure the release of the hostages.
But we know the hostages have been kept in basements and tunnels, so then obviously flattening building is going to either kill the hostage outright, or bury them under tons of rubble.
There is no other possible logical conclusion.
It is impossible to secure the release of any hostages by collapsing buildings.

Israel's campaign has four stated goals: to destroy Hamas, to free the hostages, to ensure Gaza no longer poses a threat to Israel, and to return displaced residents of Northern Israel.

Please don't use the word logical....it does not fit you.

 

[Rigby5]

"Muslims subjected to violence in the USA" is a lesson muslims learned
from Imam Josef Goebbels. "if you repeat a gross lie often enough---
enough people will believe it" give it up islamo-nazi susie

Wrong.
Joseph Goebbels was a Christian.
And there is no question that it is Israel that is the liar.
Palestine goes way back in history to the Land of Canaan, and the Hebrew invaders from Egypt only ruled for about 150 years, and have no significant history in the Mideast like the Canaanites, Chaldeans, Mitanni, Hittites, Persians, Assyrians, Philistines, Phoenicians, etc., do have.

 

[Rigby5]

Yes it does, because there is nothing the UN can do with regards to legality. There is no jurisdiction when it comes to the UN. It's a waste of time and money.

Bullshit. The UN charter is meaningless. It makes nothing legal or illegal. It states that members can't do anything that is inconsistent with "purposes" of the U.N.

Which means absoutely nothing.

ROTFLMAO

Wrong.
When the US Congress ratified the UN Charter, it became US law.
The UN Charter makes any use of force that is not defensive, illegal, unless approved by the UN.

{...

Article 1: Purposes of the United Nations​

[edit]
The adopted purposes of the United Nations reflect a premise that are the effective Dumbarton Oaks proposals. I.e. :"

1. To maintain international peace and security, and to that end: to take effective collective measures for the prevention and removal of threats to the peace, and for the suppression of acts of aggression or other breaches of the peace, and to bring about by peaceful means, and in conformity with the principles of justice and international law, adjustment or settlement of international disputes or situations which might lead to a breach of the peace;
2. To develop friendly relations among nations based on respect for the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples, and to take other appropriate measures to strengthen universal peace;
3. To achieve international co-operation in solving international problems of an economic, social, cultural, or humanitarian character, and in promoting and encouraging respect for human rights and for fundamental freedoms for all without distinction as to race, sex, language, or religion; and
4. To be a centre for harmonizing the actions of nations in the attainment of these common ends."[2]

Article 2: Principles of the United Nations​

[edit]
"The Organization and its Members, in pursuit of the Purposes stated in Article 1, shall act in accordance with the following Principles.

1. The Organization is based on the principle of the sovereign equality of all its Members.
2. All Members, in order to ensure to all of them the rights and benefits resulting from membership, shall fulfill in good faith the obligations assumed by them in accordance with the present Charter.
3. All Members shall settle their international disputes by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security, and justice, are not endangered.
4. All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.
5. All Members shall give the United Nations every assistance in any action it takes in accordance with the present Charter, and shall refrain from giving assistance to any state against which the United Nations is taking preventive or enforcement action.
6. The Organization shall ensure that states which are not Members of the United Nations act in accordance with these Principles so far as may be necessary for the maintenance of international peace and security.
7. Nothing contained in the present Charter shall authorize the United Nations to intervene in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any state or shall require the Members to submit such matters to settlement under the present Charter; but this principle shall not prejudice the application of enforcement measures under Chapter Vll."[2]

Article 2, clauses 3-4 essentially prohibit threat or use of force as well as war (except in self-defense; The right to self-defense is reaffirmed in Article 51, which states, "Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defense if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations ...").
...}
Chapter I of the United Nations Charter - Wikipedia

 

[Rigby5]

Israel's campaign has four stated goals: to destroy Hamas, to free the hostages, to ensure Gaza no longer poses a threat to Israel, and to return displaced residents of Northern Israel.

Please don't use the word logical....it does not fit you.

It is illegal to try to destroy Hamas, and they clearly are NOT targeting Hamas.
They are not freeing the hostages, and have killed more than they freed.
Northern Israel is no where near Gaza.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Wrong.
When the US Congress ratified the UN Charter, it became US law.
The UN Charter makes any use of force that is not defensive, illegal, unless approved by the UN.

You bet it did. Like it always hasn't.

I don't recall the UN ever getting involved in any court cases over the war.

I do recall several UN members participating in the conflict.

 

[irosie91]

Wrong.
Joseph Goebbels was a Christian.
And there is no question that it is Israel that is the liar.
Palestine goes way back in history to the Land of Canaan, and the Hebrew invaders from Egypt only ruled for about 150 years, and have no significant history in the Mideast like the Canaanites, Chaldeans, Mitanni, Hittites, Persians, Assyrians, Philistines, Phoenicians, etc., do have.

you related to Josef and Magda (saint magda of the cyanide) ? Of
course----Josef and Magda and Saint Adolf were all catholics in
GOOD STANDING ----eligible to engage in the HOLY EUCHARIST
CEREMONY------way back in the town of my childhood---young
women who took birth control pills were not so honored. I understand
you and your "christianity"

 

[HikerGuy83]

It is illegal to try to destroy Hamas, and they clearly are NOT targeting Hamas.

No it isn't and yes it is. Call your buddy's at the flacid UN and cry to them.

They are not freeing the hostages, and have killed more than they freed.

According to who ? Not that I care. The should have done this a long time ago.

Northern Israel is no where near Gaza.

They didn't say it was. They said they wanted displaced settlers returned. Obviously this means making it safe. Which it currently is not.

 

[irosie91]

No it isn't and yes it is. Call your buddy's at the flacid UN and cry to them.


According to who ? Not that I care. The should have done this a long time ago.


They didn't say it was. They said they wanted displaced settlers returned. Obviously this means making it safe. Which it currently is not.

for the record---islamo nazi pigs are bombing northern Israel with airborn
missiles both from Lebanon just about every day for SUPPORT FOR GAZA
worship of allah and his BBF the rapist dog of mecca

 

[Soupnazi630]

Wrong.
Ho Chi Minh had beat the evil French colonial imperialism and were free.
They had worked out a peace accord with France.
The US then illegally violated the peace accord, and backed a coup by Diem that ousted the legal leader, Bau Dai, and make the US totally illegal.
Diem was an illegal US puppet, who did not win any election or have significant support from the people of Vietnam.
That is obvious since we did things like the Mai Lai massacre.

Wrong'
'
There was no such illegal coup and Minh invaded the south after illegally siezing power

Minh was never elected or enjoyed popular support.

My lai was an isolated incident Minh routinely tortured and slaughtered civilians

 

[Soupnazi630]

It is illegal to try to destroy Hamas, and they clearly are NOT targeting Hamas.
They are not freeing the hostages, and have killed more than they freed.
Northern Israel is no where near Gaza.

It is perfectly legal

 

[Soupnazi630]

Wrong.
When the US Congress ratified the UN Charter, it became US law.
The UN Charter makes any use of force that is not defensive, illegal, unless approved by the UN.

{...

Article 1: Purposes of the United Nations​

[edit]
The adopted purposes of the United Nations reflect a premise that are the effective Dumbarton Oaks proposals. I.e. :"

1. To maintain international peace and security, and to that end: to take effective collective measures for the prevention and removal of threats to the peace, and for the suppression of acts of aggression or other breaches of the peace, and to bring about by peaceful means, and in conformity with the principles of justice and international law, adjustment or settlement of international disputes or situations which might lead to a breach of the peace;
2. To develop friendly relations among nations based on respect for the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples, and to take other appropriate measures to strengthen universal peace;
3. To achieve international co-operation in solving international problems of an economic, social, cultural, or humanitarian character, and in promoting and encouraging respect for human rights and for fundamental freedoms for all without distinction as to race, sex, language, or religion; and
4. To be a centre for harmonizing the actions of nations in the attainment of these common ends."[2]

Article 2: Principles of the United Nations​

[edit]
"The Organization and its Members, in pursuit of the Purposes stated in Article 1, shall act in accordance with the following Principles.

1. The Organization is based on the principle of the sovereign equality of all its Members.
2. All Members, in order to ensure to all of them the rights and benefits resulting from membership, shall fulfill in good faith the obligations assumed by them in accordance with the present Charter.
3. All Members shall settle their international disputes by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security, and justice, are not endangered.
4. All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.
5. All Members shall give the United Nations every assistance in any action it takes in accordance with the present Charter, and shall refrain from giving assistance to any state against which the United Nations is taking preventive or enforcement action.
6. The Organization shall ensure that states which are not Members of the United Nations act in accordance with these Principles so far as may be necessary for the maintenance of international peace and security.
7. Nothing contained in the present Charter shall authorize the United Nations to intervene in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any state or shall require the Members to submit such matters to settlement under the present Charter; but this principle shall not prejudice the application of enforcement measures under Chapter Vll."[2]

Article 2, clauses 3-4 essentially prohibit threat or use of force as well as war (except in self-defense; The right to self-defense is reaffirmed in Article 51, which states, "Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defense if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations ...").
...}
Chapter I of the United Nations Charter - Wikipedia

Wrong

It is not law and we reserve the right to decide when and where to make war

 

[Soupnazi630]

Wrong.
Joseph Goebbels was a Christian.
And there is no question that it is Israel that is the liar.
Palestine goes way back in history to the Land of Canaan, and the Hebrew invaders from Egypt only ruled for about 150 years, and have no significant history in the Mideast like the Canaanites, Chaldeans, Mitanni, Hittites, Persians, Assyrians, Philistines, Phoenicians, etc., do have.

Christian does not equal honest

It does not matter what the US "signed" or not because we had no jurisdiction.
The UN charter became US law when congress ratified it, and that made the US interference in Vietnam illegal under US law.
Only the UN could have given us authorization to interfere in Vietnam, and that never happened.

WRONG

The Un charter is not law and in fact Mingh and North Vietnam were the aggressor in Vietnam Our war there was legal. The Un is irrelevant their charter IS NOT law

 

[Soupnazi630]

If Vietnam was right, then how come with all our weapons, the South did not easily win, since they have about the same population as the north?

Because right or wrong had nothing to do with who wins DUMBASS

 

[Missourian]

I think she knew exactly what she was saying.

And I believe the only thing she regrets about saying it is the blowback.

In November, Sarandon joined a pro-Palestinian rally in New York City, where she stated that “a lot of people were afraid of being Jewish at this time and are getting a taste of what it feels like to be a Muslim in this country, so often subjected to violence.”