Quick History lesson

[Plasmaball]

13th amendment: abolished slavery
100% republican support, 23% democrat support

14th amendment: gave citizenship to freed slaves
94% republican support, 0% democrat support

15th amendment: right to vote for all
100% republican support, 0% democrat support

Obamacare
0% republican support
100% democrat support


Need I say more?

Well context matters and you really are not painting a complete picture here. Which is typical of someone like you

what's incomplete? Those are factual statements. Oh, I guess what's missing is some liberal spin and a couple of half-truths.

We are talking about the hypocrisy of the democrat party, past and present. What exactly is incomplete?

I realize that the dems and pubs of the 1800s were not the same as they are today. But thats not the point. The point is that the dem party has a history of racism, hate, and lies.

If they are not the same party then its not relevant to today.
You are trying for a cheap shot against the dems and its just pathetic. You are trash and a trash poster.

 

[hunarcy]

Sorry to make your butt hurt with the truth. Do you need links to the last election results by racial category? Perhaps that will help the truth sink in.

Minorities simply do not buy the piss being poured in this topic. They do not buy the GOP as friend of the minorities. The evidence is slammed right up in your face every election.

It is also slammed in your face every time a right winger starts a darkies-behaving-badly topic right here on this forum, and on every political forum in the country. It is also slammed in your face every time a right winger slams Muslims and homos and immigrants.

You are deluding yourself. Repeating a bunch of words about how much the Right loves minorities is just embedding that delusion further. Sadly for you, the actions of the GOP and the faux righties speak much louder.

"In his four-minute presentation, Senator Elbert Guillory outlined his belief that the Democratic Party rather seeks control of society instead of granting true liberty to the American people.

“In recent years, the Democrat Party has created the illusion that their agenda and their policies are what’s best for black people,” he said. “Somewhere it’s been forgotten that the Republican Party was founded in 1854 as an abolitionist movement with one simple creed — that slavery is a violation of the rights of men.”

Guillory, a Roman Catholic, then chronicled the contrast between Republicans and Democrats throughout history, explaining that Republicans authored the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments to the United States Constitution.

“It was the Republican President Dwight Eisenhower who championed the Civil Rights Act of 1957, but it was the Democrats in the Senate who filibustered the bill,” he said.

The state senator then pointed to what he perceives as the failed policies of the Democratic Party.

“The idea that blacks, or anyone else for that matter, need anyone to get ahead in life is despicable,” Guillory declared. “Our communities are just as poor as they have always been. Our schools continue to fail children, [and] our prisons are filled with young black men who should be at home being fathers"

Senator Urges Americans to Abandon Democrat ?Government Plantation? and ?Party of Disappointment? | Christian News Network

 

[paperview]

Sorry to make your butt hurt with the truth. Do you need links to the last election results by racial category? Perhaps that will help the truth sink in.

Minorities simply do not buy the piss being poured in this topic. They do not buy the GOP as friend of the minorities. The evidence is slammed right up in your face every election.

It is also slammed in your face every time a right winger starts a darkies-behaving-badly topic right here on this forum, and on every political forum in the country. It is also slammed in your face every time a right winger slams Muslims and homos and immigrants.

You are deluding yourself. Repeating a bunch of words about how much the Right loves minorities is just embedding that delusion further. Sadly for you, the actions of the GOP and the faux righties speak much louder.

"In his four-minute presentation, Senator Elbert Guillory outlined his belief that the Democratic Party rather seeks control of society instead of granting true liberty to the American people.

“In recent years, the Democrat Party has created the illusion that their agenda and their policies are what’s best for black people,” he said. “Somewhere it’s been forgotten that the Republican Party was founded in 1854 as an abolitionist movement with one simple creed — that slavery is a violation of the rights of men.”

Guillory, a Roman Catholic, then chronicled the contrast between Republicans and Democrats throughout history, explaining that Republicans authored the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments to the United States Constitution.

“It was the Republican President Dwight Eisenhower who championed the Civil Rights Act of 1957, but it was the Democrats in the Senate who filibustered the bill,” he said.

The state senator then pointed to what he perceives as the failed policies of the Democratic Party.

“The idea that blacks, or anyone else for that matter, need anyone to get ahead in life is despicable,” Guillory declared. “Our communities are just as poor as they have always been. Our schools continue to fail children, [and] our prisons are filled with young black men who should be at home being fathers"

Senator Urges Americans to Abandon Democrat ?Government Plantation? and ?Party of Disappointment? | Christian News Network

Why don't you tell us something, in your own words, about the year 2013.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Well context matters and you really are not painting a complete picture here. Which is typical of someone like you

what's incomplete? Those are factual statements. Oh, I guess what's missing is some liberal spin and a couple of half-truths.

We are talking about the hypocrisy of the democrat party, past and present. What exactly is incomplete?

I realize that the dems and pubs of the 1800s were not the same as they are today. But thats not the point. The point is that the dem party has a history of racism, hate, and lies.

If they are not the same party then its not relevant to today.
You are trying for a cheap shot against the dems and its just pathetic. You are trash and a trash poster.

Redfish can't do context and nuance.

 

[hunarcy]

Sorry to make your butt hurt with the truth. Do you need links to the last election results by racial category? Perhaps that will help the truth sink in.

Minorities simply do not buy the piss being poured in this topic. They do not buy the GOP as friend of the minorities. The evidence is slammed right up in your face every election.

It is also slammed in your face every time a right winger starts a darkies-behaving-badly topic right here on this forum, and on every political forum in the country. It is also slammed in your face every time a right winger slams Muslims and homos and immigrants.

You are deluding yourself. Repeating a bunch of words about how much the Right loves minorities is just embedding that delusion further. Sadly for you, the actions of the GOP and the faux righties speak much louder.

"In his four-minute presentation, Senator Elbert Guillory outlined his belief that the Democratic Party rather seeks control of society instead of granting true liberty to the American people.

“In recent years, the Democrat Party has created the illusion that their agenda and their policies are what’s best for black people,” he said. “Somewhere it’s been forgotten that the Republican Party was founded in 1854 as an abolitionist movement with one simple creed — that slavery is a violation of the rights of men.”

Guillory, a Roman Catholic, then chronicled the contrast between Republicans and Democrats throughout history, explaining that Republicans authored the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments to the United States Constitution.

“It was the Republican President Dwight Eisenhower who championed the Civil Rights Act of 1957, but it was the Democrats in the Senate who filibustered the bill,” he said.

The state senator then pointed to what he perceives as the failed policies of the Democratic Party.

“The idea that blacks, or anyone else for that matter, need anyone to get ahead in life is despicable,” Guillory declared. “Our communities are just as poor as they have always been. Our schools continue to fail children, [and] our prisons are filled with young black men who should be at home being fathers"

Senator Urges Americans to Abandon Democrat ?Government Plantation? and ?Party of Disappointment? | Christian News Network

Why don't you tell us something, in your own words, about the year 2013.

In the year 2013, a Black State Senator from Louisiana announced he was changing his Party affiliation from Democratic to Republican because he recognized the Democrats really offer nothing positive for Blacks. It's one step, I realize, but a journey of one thousand miles begins with one step.

 

[JakeStarkey]

"In the year 2013, a Black State Senator from Louisiana announced he was changing his Party affiliation from Democratic to Republican because he recognized the Democrats really offer nothing positive for Blacks. It's one step, I realize, but a journey of one thousand miles begins with one step."

It's anecdotal, apropos of nothing in itself. You had an East Texas white politician change from GOP to Dem, which, in my mind, is far more significant. Still apropos of nothing, though.

 

[hunarcy]

Yes, why do supposed "conservative" republican align themselves with a socialist like MLK? Either they are dishonest, stupid, or closet socialists themselves.

Who called MLK a communist/socialist? Hint: They were Democrats.

 

[Iceman]

Yes, why do supposed "conservative" republican align themselves with a socialist like MLK? Either they are dishonest, stupid, or closet socialists themselves.

Who called MLK a communist/socialist? Hint: They were Democrats.

They were right. His connections and close associations were documented by the FBI at the time. The records on the are sealed until 2027 however.

 

[paperview]

Who called MLK a communist/socialist?... .

Conservatives, primarily.

 

[paperview]

"In his four-minute presentation, Senator Elbert Guillory outlined his belief that the Democratic Party rather seeks control of society instead of granting true liberty to the American people.

“In recent years, the Democrat Party has created the illusion that their agenda and their policies are what’s best for black people,” he said. “Somewhere it’s been forgotten that the Republican Party was founded in 1854 as an abolitionist movement with one simple creed — that slavery is a violation of the rights of men.”

Guillory, a Roman Catholic, then chronicled the contrast between Republicans and Democrats throughout history, explaining that Republicans authored the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments to the United States Constitution.

“It was the Republican President Dwight Eisenhower who championed the Civil Rights Act of 1957, but it was the Democrats in the Senate who filibustered the bill,” he said.

The state senator then pointed to what he perceives as the failed policies of the Democratic Party.

“The idea that blacks, or anyone else for that matter, need anyone to get ahead in life is despicable,” Guillory declared. “Our communities are just as poor as they have always been. Our schools continue to fail children, [and] our prisons are filled with young black men who should be at home being fathers"

Senator Urges Americans to Abandon Democrat ?Government Plantation? and ?Party of Disappointment? | Christian News Network

Why don't you tell us something, in your own words, about the year 2013.

In the year 2013, a Black State Senator from Louisiana announced he was changing his Party affiliation from Democratic to Republican because he recognized the Democrats really offer nothing positive for Blacks. It's one step, I realize, but a journey of one thousand miles begins with one step.

Woo Hoo!

Outreach. baby! Outreach.

 

[Ame®icano]

Another. Glaring error here:

"15th amendment: right to vote for all
100% republican support, 0% democrat support"

Every part of that quote is wrong.

Not every part...

"The vote in the House was 144 to 44, with 35 not voting. The House vote was almost entirely along party lines, with no Democrats supporting the bill and only 3 Republicans voting against it"

 

[Ame®icano]

I too voted GOP in the later 1970's, then came Reagan and the GOP lost my vote by raising my taxes when they claimed they were lowering it.

There are good reasons that Eisenhower was able to win 39% of the black vote, but not the South, in 1956, and,

that Goldwater in 1964, after voting AGAINST the Civil Rights Act, could only win in the South.

As the segregationist conservative Zell Miller said...he didn't leave the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party left him.

The Democratic Party left the racists behind and moved on. The racists quickly found open arms and a home,

in the Republican Party.

Hm, how do you explain that only 5 democrats voted for Civil Rights Act of 1957, and by 1964, the same guys became "good guys".

 

[Iceman]

I too voted GOP in the later 1970's, then came Reagan and the GOP lost my vote by raising my taxes when they claimed they were lowering it.

There are good reasons that Eisenhower was able to win 39% of the black vote, but not the South, in 1956, and,

that Goldwater in 1964, after voting AGAINST the Civil Rights Act, could only win in the South.

As the segregationist conservative Zell Miller said...he didn't leave the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party left him.

The Democratic Party left the racists behind and moved on. The racists quickly found open arms and a home,

in the Republican Party.

Hm, how do you explain that only 5 democrats voted for Civil Rights Act of 1957, and by 1964, the same guys became "good guys".

How was the Civil Rights Act a conservative piece of legislation?

 

[Pogo]

And I do hereby invoke Godwin's law here.

As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1.

Nice one, Clayton, citing Hitler.

Uh - where does he mention Hitler?

The quote he used is attributed to Hitler, from his manifesto, Mein Kampf, chapter 10, volume 1.

No, don't think so...

>> But it remained for the Jews, with their unqualified capacity for falsehood, and their fighting comrades, the Marxists...by placing responsibility for the loss of the World War on the shoulders of Ludendorff they took away the weapon of moral right from the only adversary dangerous enough to be likely to succeed in bringing the betrayers of the Fatherland to Justice. All this was inspired by the principle— which is quite true in itself — that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. << - Mein Kampf, Ch. 10

Compare CCJ's post:
“Tell a lie often enough, until it’s perceived to be true.”


Point not proven. Link it or lose it.

 

[paperview]

Another. Glaring error here:

"15th amendment: right to vote for all
100% republican support, 0% democrat support"

Every part of that quote is wrong.

Not every part...

"The vote in the House was 144 to 44, with 35 not voting. The House vote was almost entirely along party lines, with no Democrats supporting the bill and only 3 Republicans voting against it"

Support for a Constitutional Amendment entails more than just the Proposal vote in Congress.

 

[paperview]

Uh - where does he mention Hitler?

The quote he used is attributed to Hitler, from his manifesto, Mein Kampf, chapter 10, volume 1.

No, don't think so...

>> But it remained for the Jews, with their unqualified capacity for falsehood, and their fighting comrades, the Marxists...by placing responsibility for the loss of the World War on the shoulders of Ludendorff they took away the weapon of moral right from the only adversary dangerous enough to be likely to succeed in bringing the betrayers of the Fatherland to Justice. All this was inspired by the principle— which is quite true in itself — that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. << - Mein Kampf, Ch. 10

Compare CCJ's post:
“Tell a lie often enough, until it’s perceived to be true.”


Point not proven. Link it or lose it.

No, Pogo, don't you see? Hitler once said some words about people lying often, therefore he owns words and whole sentences constructed around the concept of people lying routinely and other people believing the lie.

Ergo, to say “Tell a lie often enough, until it’s perceived to be true” means you support Hitler.

It's right outta Godwin for Dummies.

Der.


;/

 

[depotoo]

There are good reasons that Eisenhower was able to win 39% of the black vote, but not the South, in 1956, and,

that Goldwater in 1964, after voting AGAINST the Civil Rights Act, could only win in the South.

As the segregationist conservative Zell Miller said...he didn't leave the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party left him.

The Democratic Party left the racists behind and moved on. The racists quickly found open arms and a home,

in the Republican Party.

Hm, how do you explain that only 5 democrats voted for Civil Rights Act of 1957, and by 1964, the same guys became "good guys".

How was the Civil Rights Act a conservative piece of legislation?

Did you know that in 1955 Eisenhower issued Executive Order 10590, establishing the President's Committee on Government Policy to enforce a nondiscrimination policy in Federal employment. He also issued an order for the DC schools to become a model for the rest of the nation that same year in integrating the schools. Were you aware that in 1957 attorney general Herbert Brownell (R) introduced the 1957 Civil Rights Act? The Cat which was to establish voting rights as well as established the Civil Rights Division of the Justice Department and the U.S. Civil Rights Commission. Federal prosecutors were also empowered to use court injunctions against those who attempted to interfere with citizens’ voting rights. 1960 civil rights act? 80% of Republicans voted for it while 58% of Democrats did after a democratic filibuster once again.

Did you know that 75% of the no votes in the House for the Civil Rights Act of 1964 were from Democrats? Did you know that 80% of the Senate no votes were Democrats?

Did you ever know that? Bet you weren't taught that in school.

 

[Redfish]

Hm, how do you explain that only 5 democrats voted for Civil Rights Act of 1957, and by 1964, the same guys became "good guys".

How was the Civil Rights Act a conservative piece of legislation?

Did you know that in 1955 Eisenhower issued Executive Order 10590, establishing the President's Committee on Government Policy to enforce a nondiscrimination policy in Federal employment. He also issued an order for the DC schools to become a model for the rest of the nation that same year in integrating the schools. Were you aware that in 1957 attorney general Herbert Brownell (R) introduced the 1957 Civil Rights Act? The Cat which was to establish voting rights as well as established the Civil Rights Division of the Justice Department and the U.S. Civil Rights Commission. Federal prosecutors were also empowered to use court injunctions against those who attempted to interfere with citizens’ voting rights. 1960 civil rights act? 80% of Republicans voted for it while 58% of Democrats did after a democratic filibuster once again.

Did you know that 75% of the no votes in the House for the Civil Rights Act of 1964 were from Democrats? Did you know that 80% of the Senate no votes were Democrats?

Did you ever know that? Bet you weren't taught that in school.

that sound you hear is liberal heads imploding as the facts register with them and they realize that their entire political philosophy is a lie.

 

[Redfish]

Another. Glaring error here:

"15th amendment: right to vote for all
100% republican support, 0% democrat support"

Every part of that quote is wrong.

Not every part...

"The vote in the House was 144 to 44, with 35 not voting. The House vote was almost entirely along party lines, with no Democrats supporting the bill and only 3 Republicans voting against it"

Support for a Constitutional Amendment entails more than just the Proposal vote in Congress.

not the point. the point is that democrats did not support civil rights. and they still don't today, the pay lip service but demand that minorities kowtow to them or be personally destroyed.

 

[Iceman]

Hm, how do you explain that only 5 democrats voted for Civil Rights Act of 1957, and by 1964, the same guys became "good guys".

How was the Civil Rights Act a conservative piece of legislation?

Did you know that in 1955 Eisenhower issued Executive Order 10590, establishing the President's Committee on Government Policy to enforce a nondiscrimination policy in Federal employment. He also issued an order for the DC schools to become a model for the rest of the nation that same year in integrating the schools. Were you aware that in 1957 attorney general Herbert Brownell (R) introduced the 1957 Civil Rights Act? The Cat which was to establish voting rights as well as established the Civil Rights Division of the Justice Department and the U.S. Civil Rights Commission. Federal prosecutors were also empowered to use court injunctions against those who attempted to interfere with citizens’ voting rights. 1960 civil rights act? 80% of Republicans voted for it while 58% of Democrats did after a democratic filibuster once again.

Did you know that 75% of the no votes in the House for the Civil Rights Act of 1964 were from Democrats? Did you know that 80% of the Senate no votes were Democrats?

Did you ever know that? Bet you weren't taught that in school.

You didn't answer the question. How is the Civil Rights Act a conservative piece of legislation?