Questions for Kamara supporters

[JoeB131]

From NBC:

The president campaigned on easing immigration controls, including a moratorium on deportations, an end to former President Donald Trump’s “wait in Mexico” policy for asylum-seekers and halting construction of the border wall. That platform gave migrants good reason to believe it would be easier to get into the United States if he were elected.

Since taking office, Biden has also given them good reason to think they might be allowed to stay, as his immigration bill would offer legal status and a pathway to citizenship to much of the U.S. undocumented population.

Biden needs to admit that his eagerness to roll back Trump’s immigration policies without a meaningful plan to deal with the predictable migration increase has led to chaos at the border. While many voters wanted a kinder, gentler approach than Trump’s, Democrats cannot simply wish away the need for effective border security and immigration regulation short of declaring open borders — a deeply unpopular idea carrying numerous economic and security risks.

The problem with "Stay In Mexico", is that the MExicans figured out that Trump had lied to them about processing claims. So they weren't playing along with it after a certain point.

The fact is, Biden continued Title 42 long after Covid had subsided and has deported more people than Trump ever did.

But these folks are still coming.

 

[Care4all]

Under Biden's term, +/- 3.5 million asylum seekers have been let in. All other encounters at the border were denied entry or deported.

 

[AntonToo]

Where’d you get that graph from?

Why did you run from my question? Do you deny that Trump initiated that policy?.

You obviously will keep saying whatever you want to no matter how obvious the facts and reasons are.

Such is nutbag life.

 

[AntonToo]

From NBC:

The president campaigned on easing immigration controls, including a moratorium on deportations, an end to former President Donald Trump’s “wait in Mexico” policy for asylum-seekers and halting construction of the border wall. That platform gave migrants good reason to believe it would be easier to get into the United States if he were elected.

Since taking office, Biden has also given them good reason to think they might be allowed to stay, as his immigration bill would offer legal status and a pathway to citizenship to much of the U.S. undocumented population.

Biden needs to admit that his eagerness to roll back Trump’s immigration policies without a meaningful plan to deal with the predictable migration increase has led to chaos at the border. While many voters wanted a kinder, gentler approach than Trump’s, Democrats cannot simply wish away the need for effective border security and immigration regulation short of declaring open borders — a deeply unpopular idea carrying numerous economic and security risks.

Biden had a plan and Republicans onboard.

Trump killed it because he can’t have Biden getting credit from fools like you and needs an issue at the border for his electioneering.

 

[Thunderbird]

Kamala has opposed ICE: MSN

FLASHBACK: Kamala Harris Compared ICE To KKK, Said Agency Should Be Restarted ‘From Scratch’​

Any informed person realizes the Democratic leadership is desperately denying their devotion to mass illegal immigration.

 

[Care4all]

Do you deny that Trump initiated that policy?

The COVID pandemic allowed the initiation of the existing, title 42.

 

[Thunderbird]

MSN

www.msn.com

Dems aren’t even hiding it — Kamala Harris promises mass amnesty and more illegal immigration​

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/new-biden-rules-for-ice-point-to-fewer-arrests-and-deportations-and-a-more-restrained-agency/2021/02/07/faccb854-68c6-11eb-bf81-c618c88ed605_story.html

 

[Redfish]

Well then quote her bullshit peddler.

look up what she said on these topics in 2019 and 2020. Its easy to find them. She has changed her position on fracking, border wall, medicare for all, price controls, and virtually everything else. Bernie Sanders said yesterday that she was only saying those things because it might help her campaign, She is a far left radical socialist. wake up Anton

 

[Redfish]

It’s not – it’s Congress’ fault for failing to enact immigration reform.

no reforms are needed, our immigration laws are already on our statutes and have been for many years. What we need is a government that enforces our laws.

 

[Redfish]

Biden had a plan and Republicans onboard.

Trump killed it because he can’t have Biden getting credit from fools like you and needs an issue at the border for his electioneering.

that bill needed killing, it would have allowed thousands of illegal entries per week with the proviso that the president could increase that number on his own with no congressional action.

 

[Redfish]

Kamala supports those things, she has stated her support many times,

she is on the record. I'm sorry if you are offended by what she actually said.

 

[AntonToo]

that bill needed killing, it would have allowed thousands of illegal entries per week with the proviso that the president could increase that number on his own with no congressional action.

Is that what your orange jesus told you dupe? When are you going to learn that he ******* lies to you every waking day?

All the lying is rational from Trump's perspective - he is doing what he can to stay out of jail. But how are you so damn gullible to keep bying that trash?

That bill was a vast improvement over status quo at the border and Republicans hailed it as the strongest border bill that would pass in decades.

 

[Redfish]

Is that what your orange jesus told you dupe? When are you going to learn that he ******* lies to you every waking day?

All the lying is rational from Trump's perspective - he is doing what he can to stay out of jail. But how are you so damn gullible?

Because it's pure bullshit, the bill was a vast improvement over status quo at the border and Republicans hailed it as the strongest border bill that would pass in decades.

read the bill dipshit, its available if you really care to know the truth.

 

[AntonToo]

read the bill dipshit, its available if you really care to know the truth.

We've been over this.

You haven't read shit obviously and can't explain rationaly in what possible way bill would not be an improvement on status quo.

More border guards.
More scanning machines.
More judges to process cases quickly.
Closed all asylum aplications if the border gets hot.

There is no rational reason that has ever been presented why conservatives would possibly be against this.

 

[beagle9]

Biden had a plan and Republicans onboard.

Trump killed it because he can’t have Biden getting credit from fools like you and needs an issue at the border for his electioneering.

Bull shite... Biden/Harris are nothing but a train wreck, and they wrecked this nation way worse because they never qualified for the job's they ended up with. It's been nothing but smoke and mirror's for 3.5 year's, and after finding out that everything that was said was true about Bidens cognitive condition, you knuckleheads went into overdrive trying to replace him because you knew he couldn't beat Trump.

Now you have Kamala left, and left she has proven to be. Trump wins hand's down.

 

[Redfish]

We've been over this.

You haven't read shit obviously and can't explain rationaly in what possible way bill would not be an improvement on status quo.

More border guards.
More scanning machines.
More judges to process cases quickly.
Closed all asylum aplications if the border gets hot.

There is no rational reason that has ever been presented why conservatives would possibly be against this.

you failed to list the number of illegals allowed to enter per month, which is also part of that bill and is the reason it did not pass. It would have passed if that provision was not in it.

So once again, you are caught in a lie.

 

[AntonToo]

you failed to list the number of illegals allowed to enter per month

Because THERE IS NO STATUTORY LIMIT ON ASSYLUM APLICATIONS AND ANY NEW LIMIT WOULD BE AN IMPROVEMENT ON STATUS QUO.

As per current law, anyone can apply for assylum at the point of encounter and what the new law that Trump killed would do is SHUT DOWN that process if the border encounters are over a certain threshold. It would also increase the number of judges, so that people can get a quick judgement and in most cases quick deportation.

Do you get that? Or will it need to be explained 10 more times 10 different ways before it finally sinks in?

 

[beagle9]

Because THERE IS NO STATUTORY LIMIT ON ASSYLUM APLICATIONS AND ANY NEW LIMIT WOULD BE AN IMPROVEMENT ON STATUS QUO.

As per current law, anyone can apply for assylum at the point of encounter and what the new law that Trump killed would do is SHUT DOWN that process if the border encounters are over a certain threshold. It would also increase the number of judges, so that people can get a quick judgement and in most cases quick deportation.

Do you get that? Or will it need to be explained 10 more times 10 different ways before it finally sinks in?

We aren't talking law here, but rather the impact of decisions being made that made a mockery of our supposed regulated immigration system. Biden/Harris made a mockery of a supposed balanced immigration system for political purposes. Everyone knows it, and many are negatively impacted by it. And worse Americans are being killed because of it. If you support what Biden and Harris have done, then you also have blood on your hands.

 

[JoeB131]

We aren't talking law here, but rather the impact of decisions being made that made a mockery of our supposed regulated immigration system. Biden/Harris made a mockery of a supposed balanced immigration system for political purposes. Everyone knows it, and many are negatively impacted by it. And worse Americans are being killed because of it. If you support what Biden and Harris have done, then you also have blood on your hands.

Oh, stop being a drama queen. If you guys were concerned about Americans being killed, you'd support gun control.

This is about your hatred of brown people, so **** off, you racist twit.

Biden has deported more people than Trump did. The problem is that 1) The immigrants know the asylum system was broken by Trump and they can stay here for years without a hearing

 

[AntonToo]

We aren't talking law here

Law is EXACTLY what we are talking about.

The bipartisan enforce more, enforce better, enforce faster, deport more border law that Biden was commited to signing and Trump killed.

You don't want to talk about it because your know it makes your Dear Leader look like self-absorbed opportunist asshole, but it is still exactly what we are talking about.