Putin's fishing in Siberia while Illinois celebrates Obama's day

[Moonglow]

Just curious, why do you love Putin so much? It's a little creepy.

I like him because he's making Russia great again. I watch him since 2000: all his interviews, new conferences, speeches, etc. The guy doesn't lie: if he says something, he does it. I'm very happy for Russia, unfortunately I'm from Ukraine. But almost half of Ukraine is historical Russia since 988 (before USA even appeared on the map) and Eastern Ukraine has Russian as first language (Ukraine annexed us when exited from the USSR and West has been pretty silent about that!). Millions people in Ukraine would vote Putin for President if they could.

The problem of West is that Western Media doesn't deliver the truth about Russia and Putin but delivers a lot of lies instead.

They had maps in 988?

 

[blastoff]

Illinois is in a fiscal death spiral so, yeah, celebrating a noted loser lefty like Barry makes perfect sense to their pols.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Russia is behind their president 100 percent. That's what makes him so strong as a leader.

True.

Most Russians support both the internal and foreign policies of the current administration, according to a poll conducted by US company the Pew Research Center.

The report says that 87 percent of the Russian public are confident their president is making the right decisions on foreign policy, with just 12 percent believing the opposite to be true.
Russians overwhelmingly back Putin policies – US pollster

Didn't the Russian composer Rimsky-Korsakoff write a tone poem about a Lesbian called "Sarah Is Odd"?

The joke apparently loses something in transl

Never heard about that (I mean Rimsky-Korsakov is a Russian composer, I'm not too familiar with that lesbian story). But I guess, everything's possible in this world.

The joke apparently loses something in the translation.

I've also been told that your boy Tchaikovsky was a big sports fan. He even wrote a piece about a jockstrap called the "Nutcracker Suit," and one about a Super Bowl called "18 to 12 in Overtime."

 

[Stratford57]

Russia is behind their president 100 percent. That's what makes him so strong as a leader.

True.

Most Russians support both the internal and foreign policies of the current administration, according to a poll conducted by US company the Pew Research Center.

The report says that 87 percent of the Russian public are confident their president is making the right decisions on foreign policy, with just 12 percent believing the opposite to be true.
Russians overwhelmingly back Putin policies – US pollster

Didn't the Russian composer Rimsky-Korsakoff write a tone poem about a Lesbian called "Sarah Is Odd"?

The joke apparently loses something in transl

Never heard about that (I mean Rimsky-Korsakov is a Russian composer, I'm not too familiar with that lesbian story). But I guess, everything's possible in this world.

The joke apparently loses something in the translation.

I've also been told that your boy Tchaikovsky was a big sports fan. He even wrote a piece about a jockstrap called the "Nutcracker Suit," and one about a Super Bowl called "18 to 12 in Overtime."

Can you write your joke in Russian? I'm very curious.

I am only familiar with the most famous music by Chaikovsky. Absolutely love his ballets. Especially performed by Bolshoy and Mariininsky (St. Petersburg) troupes. BTW, Russian ballet is the best in the world. A month ago Bolshoy theater ballet (Moscow) had a tour to New York. The tickets were sold out.

(They say Chaikovsky was gay.)

 

[ESay]

(Ukraine annexed us when exited from the USSR and West has been pretty silent about that!).

It seems the amount of BS in Russian trolls’ heads is endless.

 

[MindWars]

Here is the real man: athletic and strong physically and mentally. No wonder Russia loves him and week Western "leaders" are afraid of him.



Siberian vacation: Putin takes short break to spearfish, hike & sunbathe

 

[Stratford57]

(Ukraine annexed us when exited from the USSR and West has been pretty silent about that!).

It seems the amount of BS in Russian trolls’ heads is endless.

Really? May be you should learn a little bit of real history (not that pseudo-history Ukrainians have been telling you).

Ukraine entered USSR without Eastern parts, Crimea and Galichina and exited USSR in 1991 twice bigger than entered. While being Ukrainian socialist republic within the USSR , those territories were adjoined to it just because it was convenient territorially: Lenin adjoined a lot of Russian lands from the East to increase proletariat in Ukrainian republic; Khrushchev adjoined Cromea and Stalin adjoined [Polish] Gallichina after WW2. When Ukraine decided to become "independent" (ha, ha!) in 1991 it should have returned all Russian and Polish lands to begin with. Also I'd like to remind you that Russia paid all external debts for Ukraine and other republics after USSR collapsed.

Esay, it won't hurt you to learn some real history. Start with an article by CIS-EMO political analyst of an International Monitoring Organization Stanislav Byshok (a Polish! author):
The truth about Ukraine: Byshok's lecture at Brown University - Fort Russ

 

[ESay]

(Ukraine annexed us when exited from the USSR and West has been pretty silent about that!).

It seems the amount of BS in Russian trolls’ heads is endless.

Really? May be you should learn a little bit of real history (not that pseudo-history Ukrainians have been telling you).

View attachment 142422

Ukraine entered USSR without Eastern parts, Crimea and Galichina and exited USSR in 1991 twice bigger than entered. While being Ukrainian socialist republic within the USSR , those territories were adjoined to it just because it was convenient territorially: Lenin adjoined a lot of Russian lands from the East to increase proletariat in Ukrainian republic; Khrushchev adjoined Cromea and Stalin adjoined [Polish] Gallichina after WW2. When Ukraine decided to become "independent" (ha, ha!) in 1991 it should have returned all Russian and Polish lands to begin with. Also I'd like to remind you that Russia paid all external debts for Ukraine and other republics after USSR collapsed.

Esay, it won't hurt you to learn some real history. Start with an article by CIS-EMO political analyst of an International Monitoring Organization Stanislav Byshok (a Polish! author):
The truth about Ukraine: Byshok's lecture at Brown University - Fort Russ

Firstly, your map is BS. Why? Because in 1650-s the Cossack Hetmanate already had these boundaries

Second. You were saying about historical Russian lands since 988. Where these lands are located?

 

[Lewdog]

Putin wasn't fishing, he was just visiting the lake that is full of the dead bodies of all his political opponents.

 

[Stratford57]

(Ukraine annexed us when exited from the USSR and West has been pretty silent about that!).

It seems the amount of BS in Russian trolls’ heads is endless.

Really? May be you should learn a little bit of real history (not that pseudo-history Ukrainians have been telling you).

View attachment 142422

Ukraine entered USSR without Eastern parts, Crimea and Galichina and exited USSR in 1991 twice bigger than entered. While being Ukrainian socialist republic within the USSR , those territories were adjoined to it just because it was convenient territorially: Lenin adjoined a lot of Russian lands from the East to increase proletariat in Ukrainian republic; Khrushchev adjoined Cromea and Stalin adjoined [Polish] Gallichina after WW2. When Ukraine decided to become "independent" (ha, ha!) in 1991 it should have returned all Russian and Polish lands to begin with. Also I'd like to remind you that Russia paid all external debts for Ukraine and other republics after USSR collapsed.

Esay, it won't hurt you to learn some real history. Start with an article by CIS-EMO political analyst of an International Monitoring Organization Stanislav Byshok (a Polish! author):
The truth about Ukraine: Byshok's lecture at Brown University - Fort Russ

Firstly, your map is BS. Why? Because in 1650-s the Cossack Hetmanate already had these boundaries

Second. You were saying about historical Russian lands since 988. Where these lands are located?

Your map is in the Ukrainian language but there was no Ukraine in 988, all those lands were called Kievan Rus and Kiev has always been called "the mother of Russian cities". Only after the Poles conquered some Russian West territories and later Russia conquered them back, the people on those territories became a mixture of Russians and Poles and that’s how Ukraine appeared. The translation of the world Ukraine was “suburbs”, ”Окраина” in the Russian language.

When Ukraine exited the USSR, it was the beginning of total loss of its sovereignty and after the 2014 coup it is under total external control from Washington Deep State. American Jews gave the power to local Jews in Ukraine which resulted in complete destroying of economy, unbelievable brainwashing the population (same people have been brainwashing Ukrainians and American liberals), terrible raise of prices and utilities, freezing salaries and retirement payments, chaos and corruption inside the country and even making Christians kill Christians in Donbass.
UKRAINE: ZIONIST AMERICA'S NEW JEWISH COLONY — by Lasha Darkmoon – Darkmoon

Ukrainian “independence” makes same sense as an independence of a prostitute, she’s only dependent on a certain person who gives her money at the moment and independent from those who currently don’t.

However some brainwashed Ukrainians like Esay hate Russia a lot more than wish well to their own miserable country. Sooner or later you’ll learn: if you want prosperity for your country, it should be with Russia. Only. The other country will only suck it up and throw away or use as a tool for their own purposes, not yours. dear Esay. Currently those purposes are decreasing the population of Ukraine and making it as anti-Russia as possible. And we both know: official Kiev has been good in both.
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Western leaders are content to exploit Ukraine as a buffer against Russia

“In little over a year, living standards in Ukraine have fallen by half, the value of the currency has slumped by more than two-thirds, and inflation has skyrocketed to 43 percent. Yet, even as the economy has collapsed, the government has insisted on economic policies that can only be termed suicidal,”

Kiev is paying $130 for $100 gas because it doesn’t want to admit that it’s Russian gas. This is proof of the mindset of Ukrainian policymakers.

Twenty five years after the USSR collapsed, Ukraine is worse off than it was under direct rule from Moscow.

Currently, it’s financially beholden to the IMF, which can reduce its economy to rubble with a stroke of a pen and its leaders are apparently chosen by foreign officials and wealthy lobbyists with no connection to the country. To make matters worse, Kiev has completely burned its bridges with Russia, which hosts the largest Ukrainian diaspora in the world.
Modern Ukraine is 25 yrs old, but is it actually independent?
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/357039-ukraine-independence-ussr-maidan/

Ukraine Is in Danger of Becoming a Failed State

Cohen: Trump should have spoken out against what many see as Ukraine’s troubling glorification of Nazi collaborators. Trump should have broadened the agenda to call out Kiev for its official state policy of honoring controversial figures from World War Two.
Commentary: How Trump can show he’s tough on anti-Semitism

A Fascist Hero in Democratic Kiev

Americans have been carefully shielded from the ugly underbelly of Ukraine’s Maidan uprising in 2014 that overthrew the elected president and installed a U.S.-backed, fiercely anti-Russian regime which has unleashed armed neo-Nazis. But a French documentary has dared to expose this grim reality, as Gilbert Doctorow describes.
A Look at Ukraine's Dark Side

NY Times:
International Monitory Fund and the donor nations, like United States, can’t continue to shovel money into a corrupt swamp
Opinion | Ukraine’s Unyielding Corruption

Politician makes claims of vast corruption in Ukraine

CEPS EU:
almost three years after the Euromaidan revolution, Ukraine’s leadership has fallen woefully short in delivering on its promises to fight against corruption
https://www.ceps.eu/publications/ukraine’s-unimplemented-anti-corruption-reform

IMF’s mission chief for Ukraine, Ron Van Rooden: It will take Ukraine a generation to come near the Central European economy
https://sputniknews.com/europe/201612151048570746-ukraine-generation-central-european-economy/

Foreign Policy Journal:
Kiev Is Fueling the War in Eastern Ukraine, Too

 

[ESay]

(Ukraine annexed us when exited from the USSR and West has been pretty silent about that!).

It seems the amount of BS in Russian trolls’ heads is endless.

Really? May be you should learn a little bit of real history (not that pseudo-history Ukrainians have been telling you).

View attachment 142422

Ukraine entered USSR without Eastern parts, Crimea and Galichina and exited USSR in 1991 twice bigger than entered. While being Ukrainian socialist republic within the USSR , those territories were adjoined to it just because it was convenient territorially: Lenin adjoined a lot of Russian lands from the East to increase proletariat in Ukrainian republic; Khrushchev adjoined Cromea and Stalin adjoined [Polish] Gallichina after WW2. When Ukraine decided to become "independent" (ha, ha!) in 1991 it should have returned all Russian and Polish lands to begin with. Also I'd like to remind you that Russia paid all external debts for Ukraine and other republics after USSR collapsed.

Esay, it won't hurt you to learn some real history. Start with an article by CIS-EMO political analyst of an International Monitoring Organization Stanislav Byshok (a Polish! author):
The truth about Ukraine: Byshok's lecture at Brown University - Fort Russ

Firstly, your map is BS. Why? Because in 1650-s the Cossack Hetmanate already had these boundaries

Second. You were saying about historical Russian lands since 988. Where these lands are located?

Your map is in the Ukrainian language but there was no Ukraine in 988, all those lands were called Kievan Rus and Kiev has always been called "the mother of Russian cities". Only after the Poles conquered some Russian West territories and later Russia conquered them back, the people on those territories became a mixture of Russians and Poles and that’s how Ukraine appeared. The translation of the world Ukraine was “suburbs”, ”Окраина” in the Russian language.

When Ukraine exited the USSR, it was the beginning of total loss of its sovereignty and after the 2014 coup it is under total external control from Washington Deep State. American Jews gave the power to local Jews in Ukraine which resulted in complete destroying of economy, unbelievable brainwashing the population (same people have been brainwashing Ukrainians and American liberals), terrible raise of prices and utilities, freezing salaries and retirement payments, chaos and corruption inside the country and even making Christians kill Christians in Donbass.
UKRAINE: ZIONIST AMERICA'S NEW JEWISH COLONY — by Lasha Darkmoon – Darkmoon

Ukrainian “independence” makes same sense as an independence of a prostitute, she’s only dependent on a certain person who gives her money at the moment and independent from those who currently don’t.

However some brainwashed Ukrainians like Esay hate Russia a lot more than wish well to their own miserable country. Sooner or later you’ll learn: if you want prosperity for your country, it should be with Russia. Only. The other country will only suck it up and throw away or use as a tool for their own purposes, not yours. dear Esay. Currently those purposes are decreasing the population of Ukraine and making it as anti-Russia as possible.
----

Western leaders are content to exploit Ukraine as a buffer against Russia

“In little over a year, living standards in Ukraine have fallen by half, the value of the currency has slumped by more than two-thirds, and inflation has skyrocketed to 43 percent. Yet, even as the economy has collapsed, the government has insisted on economic policies that can only be termed suicidal,”

Kiev is paying $130 for $100 gas because it doesn’t want to admit that it’s Russian gas. This is proof of the mindset of Ukrainian policymakers.

Twenty five years after the USSR collapsed, Ukraine is worse off than it was under direct rule from Moscow.

Currently, it’s financially beholden to the IMF, which can reduce its economy to rubble with a stroke of a pen and its leaders are apparently chosen by foreign officials and wealthy lobbyists with no connection to the country. To make matters worse, Kiev has completely burned its bridges with Russia, which hosts the largest Ukrainian diaspora in the world.
Modern Ukraine is 25 yrs old, but is it actually independent?
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/357039-ukraine-independence-ussr-maidan/

Ukraine Is in Danger of Becoming a Failed State

Cohen: Trump should have spoken out against what many see as Ukraine’s troubling glorification of Nazi collaborators. Trump should have broadened the agenda to call out Kiev for its official state policy of honoring controversial figures from World War Two.
Commentary: How Trump can show he’s tough on anti-Semitism

A Fascist Hero in Democratic Kiev

Americans have been carefully shielded from the ugly underbelly of Ukraine’s Maidan uprising in 2014 that overthrew the elected president and installed a U.S.-backed, fiercely anti-Russian regime which has unleashed armed neo-Nazis. But a French documentary has dared to expose this grim reality, as Gilbert Doctorow describes.
A Look at Ukraine's Dark Side

NY Times:
International Monitory Fund and the donor nations, like United States, can’t continue to shovel money into a corrupt swamp

Opinion | Ukraine’s Unyielding Corruption

Politician makes claims of vast corruption in Ukraine

https://www.ceps.eu/publications/ukraine’s-unimplemented-anti-corruption-reform

IMF’s mission chief for Ukraine, Ron Van Rooden: It will take Ukraine a generation to come near the Central European economy
https://sputniknews.com/europe/201612151048570746-ukraine-generation-central-european-economy/

Foreign Policy Journal:
Kiev Is Fueling the War in Eastern Ukraine, Too

View attachment 142446

I will surprise you – all those maps in Internet (regardless their language) were created much later than in 988. Ta-daa.


And instead of answering simple questions you again post a ‘sheet’ with links and citations you have posted here numerous times. It became boring long ago. You can’t live in Ukraine because of difficulties and consider Russia as your Motherland? Go there and stop whining.

 

[Stratford57]

(Ukraine annexed us when exited from the USSR and West has been pretty silent about that!).

It seems the amount of BS in Russian trolls’ heads is endless.

Really? May be you should learn a little bit of real history (not that pseudo-history Ukrainians have been telling you).

View attachment 142422

Ukraine entered USSR without Eastern parts, Crimea and Galichina and exited USSR in 1991 twice bigger than entered. While being Ukrainian socialist republic within the USSR , those territories were adjoined to it just because it was convenient territorially: Lenin adjoined a lot of Russian lands from the East to increase proletariat in Ukrainian republic; Khrushchev adjoined Cromea and Stalin adjoined [Polish] Gallichina after WW2. When Ukraine decided to become "independent" (ha, ha!) in 1991 it should have returned all Russian and Polish lands to begin with. Also I'd like to remind you that Russia paid all external debts for Ukraine and other republics after USSR collapsed.

Esay, it won't hurt you to learn some real history. Start with an article by CIS-EMO political analyst of an International Monitoring Organization Stanislav Byshok (a Polish! author):
The truth about Ukraine: Byshok's lecture at Brown University - Fort Russ

Firstly, your map is BS. Why? Because in 1650-s the Cossack Hetmanate already had these boundaries

Second. You were saying about historical Russian lands since 988. Where these lands are located?

Your map is in the Ukrainian language but there was no Ukraine in 988, all those lands were called Kievan Rus and Kiev has always been called "the mother of Russian cities". Only after the Poles conquered some Russian West territories and later Russia conquered them back, the people on those territories became a mixture of Russians and Poles and that’s how Ukraine appeared. The translation of the world Ukraine was “suburbs”, ”Окраина” in the Russian language.

When Ukraine exited the USSR, it was the beginning of total loss of its sovereignty and after the 2014 coup it is under total external control from Washington Deep State. American Jews gave the power to local Jews in Ukraine which resulted in complete destroying of economy, unbelievable brainwashing the population (same people have been brainwashing Ukrainians and American liberals), terrible raise of prices and utilities, freezing salaries and retirement payments, chaos and corruption inside the country and even making Christians kill Christians in Donbass.
UKRAINE: ZIONIST AMERICA'S NEW JEWISH COLONY — by Lasha Darkmoon – Darkmoon

Ukrainian “independence” makes same sense as an independence of a prostitute, she’s only dependent on a certain person who gives her money at the moment and independent from those who currently don’t.

However some brainwashed Ukrainians like Esay hate Russia a lot more than wish well to their own miserable country. Sooner or later you’ll learn: if you want prosperity for your country, it should be with Russia. Only. The other country will only suck it up and throw away or use as a tool for their own purposes, not yours. dear Esay. Currently those purposes are decreasing the population of Ukraine and making it as anti-Russia as possible.
----

Western leaders are content to exploit Ukraine as a buffer against Russia

“In little over a year, living standards in Ukraine have fallen by half, the value of the currency has slumped by more than two-thirds, and inflation has skyrocketed to 43 percent. Yet, even as the economy has collapsed, the government has insisted on economic policies that can only be termed suicidal,”

Kiev is paying $130 for $100 gas because it doesn’t want to admit that it’s Russian gas. This is proof of the mindset of Ukrainian policymakers.

Twenty five years after the USSR collapsed, Ukraine is worse off than it was under direct rule from Moscow.

Currently, it’s financially beholden to the IMF, which can reduce its economy to rubble with a stroke of a pen and its leaders are apparently chosen by foreign officials and wealthy lobbyists with no connection to the country. To make matters worse, Kiev has completely burned its bridges with Russia, which hosts the largest Ukrainian diaspora in the world.
Modern Ukraine is 25 yrs old, but is it actually independent?
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/357039-ukraine-independence-ussr-maidan/

Ukraine Is in Danger of Becoming a Failed State

Cohen: Trump should have spoken out against what many see as Ukraine’s troubling glorification of Nazi collaborators. Trump should have broadened the agenda to call out Kiev for its official state policy of honoring controversial figures from World War Two.
Commentary: How Trump can show he’s tough on anti-Semitism

A Fascist Hero in Democratic Kiev

Americans have been carefully shielded from the ugly underbelly of Ukraine’s Maidan uprising in 2014 that overthrew the elected president and installed a U.S.-backed, fiercely anti-Russian regime which has unleashed armed neo-Nazis. But a French documentary has dared to expose this grim reality, as Gilbert Doctorow describes.
A Look at Ukraine's Dark Side

NY Times:
International Monitory Fund and the donor nations, like United States, can’t continue to shovel money into a corrupt swamp

Opinion | Ukraine’s Unyielding Corruption

Politician makes claims of vast corruption in Ukraine

https://www.ceps.eu/publications/ukraine’s-unimplemented-anti-corruption-reform

IMF’s mission chief for Ukraine, Ron Van Rooden: It will take Ukraine a generation to come near the Central European economy
https://sputniknews.com/europe/201612151048570746-ukraine-generation-central-european-economy/

Foreign Policy Journal:
Kiev Is Fueling the War in Eastern Ukraine, Too

View attachment 142446

I will surprise you – all those maps in Internet (regardless their language) were created much later than in 988. Ta-daa.


And instead of answering simple questions you again post a ‘sheet’ with links and citations you have posted here numerous times. It became boring long ago. You can’t live in Ukraine because of difficulties and consider Russia as your Motherland? Go there and stop whining.

Internet is full of fake news, we both know that. Ta-daa.

Eventually we all will go to Russia with all our historical lands. When will it happen? When independent group of EU/USA powerful people comes to Ukraine, sees and condemns the numerous crimes of Ukrainian Junta against the humanity. Just like EU leaders came to Georgia in 2008 and confirmed that Georgia attacked Ossetia. BTW, you almost can't find anything about that on your reliable Internet in English language. But the fact remains the fact.

Good luck living in a poorest country in Europe, dear proud Ukrainian Esay. Only the crooks do well in such a country. You must be working for some of them, I can guess. Otherwise you would be poor and miserable and wouldn't have any illusions about the future of a failed state of Ukraine. And it keeps failing, my dear Esay.

 

[Dale Smith]

(Ukraine annexed us when exited from the USSR and West has been pretty silent about that!).

It seems the amount of BS in Russian trolls’ heads is endless.

Really? May be you should learn a little bit of real history (not that pseudo-history Ukrainians have been telling you).

View attachment 142422

Ukraine entered USSR without Eastern parts, Crimea and Galichina and exited USSR in 1991 twice bigger than entered. While being Ukrainian socialist republic within the USSR , those territories were adjoined to it just because it was convenient territorially: Lenin adjoined a lot of Russian lands from the East to increase proletariat in Ukrainian republic; Khrushchev adjoined Cromea and Stalin adjoined [Polish] Gallichina after WW2. When Ukraine decided to become "independent" (ha, ha!) in 1991 it should have returned all Russian and Polish lands to begin with. Also I'd like to remind you that Russia paid all external debts for Ukraine and other republics after USSR collapsed.

Esay, it won't hurt you to learn some real history. Start with an article by CIS-EMO political analyst of an International Monitoring Organization Stanislav Byshok (a Polish! author):
The truth about Ukraine: Byshok's lecture at Brown University - Fort Russ

Firstly, your map is BS. Why? Because in 1650-s the Cossack Hetmanate already had these boundaries

Second. You were saying about historical Russian lands since 988. Where these lands are located?

Your map is in the Ukrainian language but there was no Ukraine in 988, all those lands were called Kievan Rus and Kiev has always been called "the mother of Russian cities". Only after the Poles conquered some Russian West territories and later Russia conquered them back, the people on those territories became a mixture of Russians and Poles and that’s how Ukraine appeared. The translation of the world Ukraine was “suburbs”, ”Окраина” in the Russian language.

When Ukraine exited the USSR, it was the beginning of total loss of its sovereignty and after the 2014 coup it is under total external control from Washington Deep State. American Jews gave the power to local Jews in Ukraine which resulted in complete destroying of economy, unbelievable brainwashing the population (same people have been brainwashing Ukrainians and American liberals), terrible raise of prices and utilities, freezing salaries and retirement payments, chaos and corruption inside the country and even making Christians kill Christians in Donbass.
UKRAINE: ZIONIST AMERICA'S NEW JEWISH COLONY — by Lasha Darkmoon – Darkmoon

Ukrainian “independence” makes same sense as an independence of a prostitute, she’s only dependent on a certain person who gives her money at the moment and independent from those who currently don’t.

However some brainwashed Ukrainians like Esay hate Russia a lot more than wish well to their own miserable country. Sooner or later you’ll learn: if you want prosperity for your country, it should be with Russia. Only. The other country will only suck it up and throw away or use as a tool for their own purposes, not yours. dear Esay. Currently those purposes are decreasing the population of Ukraine and making it as anti-Russia as possible.
----

Western leaders are content to exploit Ukraine as a buffer against Russia

“In little over a year, living standards in Ukraine have fallen by half, the value of the currency has slumped by more than two-thirds, and inflation has skyrocketed to 43 percent. Yet, even as the economy has collapsed, the government has insisted on economic policies that can only be termed suicidal,”

Kiev is paying $130 for $100 gas because it doesn’t want to admit that it’s Russian gas. This is proof of the mindset of Ukrainian policymakers.

Twenty five years after the USSR collapsed, Ukraine is worse off than it was under direct rule from Moscow.

Currently, it’s financially beholden to the IMF, which can reduce its economy to rubble with a stroke of a pen and its leaders are apparently chosen by foreign officials and wealthy lobbyists with no connection to the country. To make matters worse, Kiev has completely burned its bridges with Russia, which hosts the largest Ukrainian diaspora in the world.
Modern Ukraine is 25 yrs old, but is it actually independent?
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/357039-ukraine-independence-ussr-maidan/

Ukraine Is in Danger of Becoming a Failed State

Cohen: Trump should have spoken out against what many see as Ukraine’s troubling glorification of Nazi collaborators. Trump should have broadened the agenda to call out Kiev for its official state policy of honoring controversial figures from World War Two.
Commentary: How Trump can show he’s tough on anti-Semitism

A Fascist Hero in Democratic Kiev

Americans have been carefully shielded from the ugly underbelly of Ukraine’s Maidan uprising in 2014 that overthrew the elected president and installed a U.S.-backed, fiercely anti-Russian regime which has unleashed armed neo-Nazis. But a French documentary has dared to expose this grim reality, as Gilbert Doctorow describes.
A Look at Ukraine's Dark Side

NY Times:
International Monitory Fund and the donor nations, like United States, can’t continue to shovel money into a corrupt swamp

Opinion | Ukraine’s Unyielding Corruption

Politician makes claims of vast corruption in Ukraine

https://www.ceps.eu/publications/ukraine’s-unimplemented-anti-corruption-reform

IMF’s mission chief for Ukraine, Ron Van Rooden: It will take Ukraine a generation to come near the Central European economy
https://sputniknews.com/europe/201612151048570746-ukraine-generation-central-european-economy/

Foreign Policy Journal:
Kiev Is Fueling the War in Eastern Ukraine, Too

View attachment 142446

I will surprise you – all those maps in Internet (regardless their language) were created much later than in 988. Ta-daa.


And instead of answering simple questions you again post a ‘sheet’ with links and citations you have posted here numerous times. It became boring long ago. You can’t live in Ukraine because of difficulties and consider Russia as your Motherland? Go there and stop whining.

Esay, Stratford57 is kicking your ass 8 ways to Sunday and she has provided the facts and data to back her contentions up. You have nothing but conjecture to offer.

 

[ESay]

It seems the amount of BS in Russian trolls’ heads is endless.

Really? May be you should learn a little bit of real history (not that pseudo-history Ukrainians have been telling you).

View attachment 142422

Ukraine entered USSR without Eastern parts, Crimea and Galichina and exited USSR in 1991 twice bigger than entered. While being Ukrainian socialist republic within the USSR , those territories were adjoined to it just because it was convenient territorially: Lenin adjoined a lot of Russian lands from the East to increase proletariat in Ukrainian republic; Khrushchev adjoined Cromea and Stalin adjoined [Polish] Gallichina after WW2. When Ukraine decided to become "independent" (ha, ha!) in 1991 it should have returned all Russian and Polish lands to begin with. Also I'd like to remind you that Russia paid all external debts for Ukraine and other republics after USSR collapsed.

Esay, it won't hurt you to learn some real history. Start with an article by CIS-EMO political analyst of an International Monitoring Organization Stanislav Byshok (a Polish! author):
The truth about Ukraine: Byshok's lecture at Brown University - Fort Russ

Firstly, your map is BS. Why? Because in 1650-s the Cossack Hetmanate already had these boundaries

Second. You were saying about historical Russian lands since 988. Where these lands are located?

Your map is in the Ukrainian language but there was no Ukraine in 988, all those lands were called Kievan Rus and Kiev has always been called "the mother of Russian cities". Only after the Poles conquered some Russian West territories and later Russia conquered them back, the people on those territories became a mixture of Russians and Poles and that’s how Ukraine appeared. The translation of the world Ukraine was “suburbs”, ”Окраина” in the Russian language.

When Ukraine exited the USSR, it was the beginning of total loss of its sovereignty and after the 2014 coup it is under total external control from Washington Deep State. American Jews gave the power to local Jews in Ukraine which resulted in complete destroying of economy, unbelievable brainwashing the population (same people have been brainwashing Ukrainians and American liberals), terrible raise of prices and utilities, freezing salaries and retirement payments, chaos and corruption inside the country and even making Christians kill Christians in Donbass.
UKRAINE: ZIONIST AMERICA'S NEW JEWISH COLONY — by Lasha Darkmoon – Darkmoon

Ukrainian “independence” makes same sense as an independence of a prostitute, she’s only dependent on a certain person who gives her money at the moment and independent from those who currently don’t.

However some brainwashed Ukrainians like Esay hate Russia a lot more than wish well to their own miserable country. Sooner or later you’ll learn: if you want prosperity for your country, it should be with Russia. Only. The other country will only suck it up and throw away or use as a tool for their own purposes, not yours. dear Esay. Currently those purposes are decreasing the population of Ukraine and making it as anti-Russia as possible.
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Western leaders are content to exploit Ukraine as a buffer against Russia

“In little over a year, living standards in Ukraine have fallen by half, the value of the currency has slumped by more than two-thirds, and inflation has skyrocketed to 43 percent. Yet, even as the economy has collapsed, the government has insisted on economic policies that can only be termed suicidal,”

Kiev is paying $130 for $100 gas because it doesn’t want to admit that it’s Russian gas. This is proof of the mindset of Ukrainian policymakers.

Twenty five years after the USSR collapsed, Ukraine is worse off than it was under direct rule from Moscow.

Currently, it’s financially beholden to the IMF, which can reduce its economy to rubble with a stroke of a pen and its leaders are apparently chosen by foreign officials and wealthy lobbyists with no connection to the country. To make matters worse, Kiev has completely burned its bridges with Russia, which hosts the largest Ukrainian diaspora in the world.
Modern Ukraine is 25 yrs old, but is it actually independent?
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/357039-ukraine-independence-ussr-maidan/

Ukraine Is in Danger of Becoming a Failed State

Cohen: Trump should have spoken out against what many see as Ukraine’s troubling glorification of Nazi collaborators. Trump should have broadened the agenda to call out Kiev for its official state policy of honoring controversial figures from World War Two.
Commentary: How Trump can show he’s tough on anti-Semitism

A Fascist Hero in Democratic Kiev

Americans have been carefully shielded from the ugly underbelly of Ukraine’s Maidan uprising in 2014 that overthrew the elected president and installed a U.S.-backed, fiercely anti-Russian regime which has unleashed armed neo-Nazis. But a French documentary has dared to expose this grim reality, as Gilbert Doctorow describes.
A Look at Ukraine's Dark Side

NY Times:
International Monitory Fund and the donor nations, like United States, can’t continue to shovel money into a corrupt swamp

Opinion | Ukraine’s Unyielding Corruption

Politician makes claims of vast corruption in Ukraine

https://www.ceps.eu/publications/ukraine’s-unimplemented-anti-corruption-reform

IMF’s mission chief for Ukraine, Ron Van Rooden: It will take Ukraine a generation to come near the Central European economy
https://sputniknews.com/europe/201612151048570746-ukraine-generation-central-european-economy/

Foreign Policy Journal:
Kiev Is Fueling the War in Eastern Ukraine, Too

View attachment 142446

I will surprise you – all those maps in Internet (regardless their language) were created much later than in 988. Ta-daa.


And instead of answering simple questions you again post a ‘sheet’ with links and citations you have posted here numerous times. It became boring long ago. You can’t live in Ukraine because of difficulties and consider Russia as your Motherland? Go there and stop whining.

Internet is full of fake news, we both know that. Ta-daa.

Eventually we all will go to Russia with all our historical lands. When will it happen? When independent group of EU/USA powerful people comes to Ukraine, sees and condemns the numerous crimes of Ukrainian Junta against the humanity. Just like EU leaders came to Georgia in 2008 and confirmed that Georgia attacked Ossetia. BTW, you almost can't find anything about that on your reliable Internet in English language. But the fact remains the fact.

Good luck living in a poorest country in Europe, dear proud Ukrainian Esay. Only the crooks do well in such a country. You must be working for some of them, I can guess. Otherwise you would be poor and miserable and wouldn't have any illusions about the future of a failed state of Ukraine. And it keeps failing, my dear Esay.

Again historical lands. Where these lands are located?

When will it happen? When independent group of EU/USA powerful people comes to Ukraine, sees and condemns the numerous crimes of Ukrainian Junta against the humanity. Just like EU leaders came to Georgia in 2008 and confirmed that Georgia attacked Ossetia. BTW, you almost can't find anything about that on your reliable Internet in English language. But the fact remains the fact.

More than 3 years have passed since then and you still have such stuff in your head? Unbelievable. At least you don’t hope that Russia will help you. It is progress.

 

[Dale Smith]

Really? May be you should learn a little bit of real history (not that pseudo-history Ukrainians have been telling you).

View attachment 142422

Ukraine entered USSR without Eastern parts, Crimea and Galichina and exited USSR in 1991 twice bigger than entered. While being Ukrainian socialist republic within the USSR , those territories were adjoined to it just because it was convenient territorially: Lenin adjoined a lot of Russian lands from the East to increase proletariat in Ukrainian republic; Khrushchev adjoined Cromea and Stalin adjoined [Polish] Gallichina after WW2. When Ukraine decided to become "independent" (ha, ha!) in 1991 it should have returned all Russian and Polish lands to begin with. Also I'd like to remind you that Russia paid all external debts for Ukraine and other republics after USSR collapsed.

Esay, it won't hurt you to learn some real history. Start with an article by CIS-EMO political analyst of an International Monitoring Organization Stanislav Byshok (a Polish! author):
The truth about Ukraine: Byshok's lecture at Brown University - Fort Russ

Firstly, your map is BS. Why? Because in 1650-s the Cossack Hetmanate already had these boundaries

Second. You were saying about historical Russian lands since 988. Where these lands are located?

Your map is in the Ukrainian language but there was no Ukraine in 988, all those lands were called Kievan Rus and Kiev has always been called "the mother of Russian cities". Only after the Poles conquered some Russian West territories and later Russia conquered them back, the people on those territories became a mixture of Russians and Poles and that’s how Ukraine appeared. The translation of the world Ukraine was “suburbs”, ”Окраина” in the Russian language.

When Ukraine exited the USSR, it was the beginning of total loss of its sovereignty and after the 2014 coup it is under total external control from Washington Deep State. American Jews gave the power to local Jews in Ukraine which resulted in complete destroying of economy, unbelievable brainwashing the population (same people have been brainwashing Ukrainians and American liberals), terrible raise of prices and utilities, freezing salaries and retirement payments, chaos and corruption inside the country and even making Christians kill Christians in Donbass.
UKRAINE: ZIONIST AMERICA'S NEW JEWISH COLONY — by Lasha Darkmoon – Darkmoon

Ukrainian “independence” makes same sense as an independence of a prostitute, she’s only dependent on a certain person who gives her money at the moment and independent from those who currently don’t.

However some brainwashed Ukrainians like Esay hate Russia a lot more than wish well to their own miserable country. Sooner or later you’ll learn: if you want prosperity for your country, it should be with Russia. Only. The other country will only suck it up and throw away or use as a tool for their own purposes, not yours. dear Esay. Currently those purposes are decreasing the population of Ukraine and making it as anti-Russia as possible.
----

Western leaders are content to exploit Ukraine as a buffer against Russia

“In little over a year, living standards in Ukraine have fallen by half, the value of the currency has slumped by more than two-thirds, and inflation has skyrocketed to 43 percent. Yet, even as the economy has collapsed, the government has insisted on economic policies that can only be termed suicidal,”

Kiev is paying $130 for $100 gas because it doesn’t want to admit that it’s Russian gas. This is proof of the mindset of Ukrainian policymakers.

Twenty five years after the USSR collapsed, Ukraine is worse off than it was under direct rule from Moscow.

Currently, it’s financially beholden to the IMF, which can reduce its economy to rubble with a stroke of a pen and its leaders are apparently chosen by foreign officials and wealthy lobbyists with no connection to the country. To make matters worse, Kiev has completely burned its bridges with Russia, which hosts the largest Ukrainian diaspora in the world.
Modern Ukraine is 25 yrs old, but is it actually independent?
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/357039-ukraine-independence-ussr-maidan/

Ukraine Is in Danger of Becoming a Failed State

Cohen: Trump should have spoken out against what many see as Ukraine’s troubling glorification of Nazi collaborators. Trump should have broadened the agenda to call out Kiev for its official state policy of honoring controversial figures from World War Two.
Commentary: How Trump can show he’s tough on anti-Semitism

A Fascist Hero in Democratic Kiev

Americans have been carefully shielded from the ugly underbelly of Ukraine’s Maidan uprising in 2014 that overthrew the elected president and installed a U.S.-backed, fiercely anti-Russian regime which has unleashed armed neo-Nazis. But a French documentary has dared to expose this grim reality, as Gilbert Doctorow describes.
A Look at Ukraine's Dark Side

NY Times:
International Monitory Fund and the donor nations, like United States, can’t continue to shovel money into a corrupt swamp

Opinion | Ukraine’s Unyielding Corruption

Politician makes claims of vast corruption in Ukraine

https://www.ceps.eu/publications/ukraine’s-unimplemented-anti-corruption-reform

IMF’s mission chief for Ukraine, Ron Van Rooden: It will take Ukraine a generation to come near the Central European economy
https://sputniknews.com/europe/201612151048570746-ukraine-generation-central-european-economy/

Foreign Policy Journal:
Kiev Is Fueling the War in Eastern Ukraine, Too

View attachment 142446

I will surprise you – all those maps in Internet (regardless their language) were created much later than in 988. Ta-daa.


And instead of answering simple questions you again post a ‘sheet’ with links and citations you have posted here numerous times. It became boring long ago. You can’t live in Ukraine because of difficulties and consider Russia as your Motherland? Go there and stop whining.

Internet is full of fake news, we both know that. Ta-daa.

Eventually we all will go to Russia with all our historical lands. When will it happen? When independent group of EU/USA powerful people comes to Ukraine, sees and condemns the numerous crimes of Ukrainian Junta against the humanity. Just like EU leaders came to Georgia in 2008 and confirmed that Georgia attacked Ossetia. BTW, you almost can't find anything about that on your reliable Internet in English language. But the fact remains the fact.

Good luck living in a poorest country in Europe, dear proud Ukrainian Esay. Only the crooks do well in such a country. You must be working for some of them, I can guess. Otherwise you would be poor and miserable and wouldn't have any illusions about the future of a failed state of Ukraine. And it keeps failing, my dear Esay.

Again historical lands. Where these lands are located?

When will it happen? When independent group of EU/USA powerful people comes to Ukraine, sees and condemns the numerous crimes of Ukrainian Junta against the humanity. Just like EU leaders came to Georgia in 2008 and confirmed that Georgia attacked Ossetia. BTW, you almost can't find anything about that on your reliable Internet in English language. But the fact remains the fact.

More than 3 years have passed since then and you still have such stuff in your head? Unbelievable. At least you don’t hope that Russia will help you. It is progress.

So, are you under the impression that the E.U "liberated" the Ukraine in that illegal coup in 2014???

 

[ESay]

It seems the amount of BS in Russian trolls’ heads is endless.

Really? May be you should learn a little bit of real history (not that pseudo-history Ukrainians have been telling you).

View attachment 142422

Ukraine entered USSR without Eastern parts, Crimea and Galichina and exited USSR in 1991 twice bigger than entered. While being Ukrainian socialist republic within the USSR , those territories were adjoined to it just because it was convenient territorially: Lenin adjoined a lot of Russian lands from the East to increase proletariat in Ukrainian republic; Khrushchev adjoined Cromea and Stalin adjoined [Polish] Gallichina after WW2. When Ukraine decided to become "independent" (ha, ha!) in 1991 it should have returned all Russian and Polish lands to begin with. Also I'd like to remind you that Russia paid all external debts for Ukraine and other republics after USSR collapsed.

Esay, it won't hurt you to learn some real history. Start with an article by CIS-EMO political analyst of an International Monitoring Organization Stanislav Byshok (a Polish! author):
The truth about Ukraine: Byshok's lecture at Brown University - Fort Russ

Firstly, your map is BS. Why? Because in 1650-s the Cossack Hetmanate already had these boundaries

Second. You were saying about historical Russian lands since 988. Where these lands are located?

Your map is in the Ukrainian language but there was no Ukraine in 988, all those lands were called Kievan Rus and Kiev has always been called "the mother of Russian cities". Only after the Poles conquered some Russian West territories and later Russia conquered them back, the people on those territories became a mixture of Russians and Poles and that’s how Ukraine appeared. The translation of the world Ukraine was “suburbs”, ”Окраина” in the Russian language.

When Ukraine exited the USSR, it was the beginning of total loss of its sovereignty and after the 2014 coup it is under total external control from Washington Deep State. American Jews gave the power to local Jews in Ukraine which resulted in complete destroying of economy, unbelievable brainwashing the population (same people have been brainwashing Ukrainians and American liberals), terrible raise of prices and utilities, freezing salaries and retirement payments, chaos and corruption inside the country and even making Christians kill Christians in Donbass.
UKRAINE: ZIONIST AMERICA'S NEW JEWISH COLONY — by Lasha Darkmoon – Darkmoon

Ukrainian “independence” makes same sense as an independence of a prostitute, she’s only dependent on a certain person who gives her money at the moment and independent from those who currently don’t.

However some brainwashed Ukrainians like Esay hate Russia a lot more than wish well to their own miserable country. Sooner or later you’ll learn: if you want prosperity for your country, it should be with Russia. Only. The other country will only suck it up and throw away or use as a tool for their own purposes, not yours. dear Esay. Currently those purposes are decreasing the population of Ukraine and making it as anti-Russia as possible.
----

Western leaders are content to exploit Ukraine as a buffer against Russia

“In little over a year, living standards in Ukraine have fallen by half, the value of the currency has slumped by more than two-thirds, and inflation has skyrocketed to 43 percent. Yet, even as the economy has collapsed, the government has insisted on economic policies that can only be termed suicidal,”

Kiev is paying $130 for $100 gas because it doesn’t want to admit that it’s Russian gas. This is proof of the mindset of Ukrainian policymakers.

Twenty five years after the USSR collapsed, Ukraine is worse off than it was under direct rule from Moscow.

Currently, it’s financially beholden to the IMF, which can reduce its economy to rubble with a stroke of a pen and its leaders are apparently chosen by foreign officials and wealthy lobbyists with no connection to the country. To make matters worse, Kiev has completely burned its bridges with Russia, which hosts the largest Ukrainian diaspora in the world.
Modern Ukraine is 25 yrs old, but is it actually independent?
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/357039-ukraine-independence-ussr-maidan/

Ukraine Is in Danger of Becoming a Failed State

Cohen: Trump should have spoken out against what many see as Ukraine’s troubling glorification of Nazi collaborators. Trump should have broadened the agenda to call out Kiev for its official state policy of honoring controversial figures from World War Two.
Commentary: How Trump can show he’s tough on anti-Semitism

A Fascist Hero in Democratic Kiev

Americans have been carefully shielded from the ugly underbelly of Ukraine’s Maidan uprising in 2014 that overthrew the elected president and installed a U.S.-backed, fiercely anti-Russian regime which has unleashed armed neo-Nazis. But a French documentary has dared to expose this grim reality, as Gilbert Doctorow describes.
A Look at Ukraine's Dark Side

NY Times:
International Monitory Fund and the donor nations, like United States, can’t continue to shovel money into a corrupt swamp

Opinion | Ukraine’s Unyielding Corruption

Politician makes claims of vast corruption in Ukraine

https://www.ceps.eu/publications/ukraine’s-unimplemented-anti-corruption-reform

IMF’s mission chief for Ukraine, Ron Van Rooden: It will take Ukraine a generation to come near the Central European economy
https://sputniknews.com/europe/201612151048570746-ukraine-generation-central-european-economy/

Foreign Policy Journal:
Kiev Is Fueling the War in Eastern Ukraine, Too

View attachment 142446

I will surprise you – all those maps in Internet (regardless their language) were created much later than in 988. Ta-daa.


And instead of answering simple questions you again post a ‘sheet’ with links and citations you have posted here numerous times. It became boring long ago. You can’t live in Ukraine because of difficulties and consider Russia as your Motherland? Go there and stop whining.

Esay, Stratford57 is kicking your ass 8 ways to Sunday and she has provided the facts and data to back her contentions up. You have nothing but conjecture to offer.

Facts and data? I wonder her fake map can be considered as fact?

 

[ESay]

Firstly, your map is BS. Why? Because in 1650-s the Cossack Hetmanate already had these boundaries

Second. You were saying about historical Russian lands since 988. Where these lands are located?

Your map is in the Ukrainian language but there was no Ukraine in 988, all those lands were called Kievan Rus and Kiev has always been called "the mother of Russian cities". Only after the Poles conquered some Russian West territories and later Russia conquered them back, the people on those territories became a mixture of Russians and Poles and that’s how Ukraine appeared. The translation of the world Ukraine was “suburbs”, ”Окраина” in the Russian language.

When Ukraine exited the USSR, it was the beginning of total loss of its sovereignty and after the 2014 coup it is under total external control from Washington Deep State. American Jews gave the power to local Jews in Ukraine which resulted in complete destroying of economy, unbelievable brainwashing the population (same people have been brainwashing Ukrainians and American liberals), terrible raise of prices and utilities, freezing salaries and retirement payments, chaos and corruption inside the country and even making Christians kill Christians in Donbass.
UKRAINE: ZIONIST AMERICA'S NEW JEWISH COLONY — by Lasha Darkmoon – Darkmoon

Ukrainian “independence” makes same sense as an independence of a prostitute, she’s only dependent on a certain person who gives her money at the moment and independent from those who currently don’t.

However some brainwashed Ukrainians like Esay hate Russia a lot more than wish well to their own miserable country. Sooner or later you’ll learn: if you want prosperity for your country, it should be with Russia. Only. The other country will only suck it up and throw away or use as a tool for their own purposes, not yours. dear Esay. Currently those purposes are decreasing the population of Ukraine and making it as anti-Russia as possible.
----

Western leaders are content to exploit Ukraine as a buffer against Russia

“In little over a year, living standards in Ukraine have fallen by half, the value of the currency has slumped by more than two-thirds, and inflation has skyrocketed to 43 percent. Yet, even as the economy has collapsed, the government has insisted on economic policies that can only be termed suicidal,”

Kiev is paying $130 for $100 gas because it doesn’t want to admit that it’s Russian gas. This is proof of the mindset of Ukrainian policymakers.

Twenty five years after the USSR collapsed, Ukraine is worse off than it was under direct rule from Moscow.

Currently, it’s financially beholden to the IMF, which can reduce its economy to rubble with a stroke of a pen and its leaders are apparently chosen by foreign officials and wealthy lobbyists with no connection to the country. To make matters worse, Kiev has completely burned its bridges with Russia, which hosts the largest Ukrainian diaspora in the world.
Modern Ukraine is 25 yrs old, but is it actually independent?
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/357039-ukraine-independence-ussr-maidan/

Ukraine Is in Danger of Becoming a Failed State

Cohen: Trump should have spoken out against what many see as Ukraine’s troubling glorification of Nazi collaborators. Trump should have broadened the agenda to call out Kiev for its official state policy of honoring controversial figures from World War Two.
Commentary: How Trump can show he’s tough on anti-Semitism

A Fascist Hero in Democratic Kiev

Americans have been carefully shielded from the ugly underbelly of Ukraine’s Maidan uprising in 2014 that overthrew the elected president and installed a U.S.-backed, fiercely anti-Russian regime which has unleashed armed neo-Nazis. But a French documentary has dared to expose this grim reality, as Gilbert Doctorow describes.
A Look at Ukraine's Dark Side

NY Times:
International Monitory Fund and the donor nations, like United States, can’t continue to shovel money into a corrupt swamp

Opinion | Ukraine’s Unyielding Corruption

Politician makes claims of vast corruption in Ukraine

https://www.ceps.eu/publications/ukraine’s-unimplemented-anti-corruption-reform

IMF’s mission chief for Ukraine, Ron Van Rooden: It will take Ukraine a generation to come near the Central European economy
https://sputniknews.com/europe/201612151048570746-ukraine-generation-central-european-economy/

Foreign Policy Journal:
Kiev Is Fueling the War in Eastern Ukraine, Too

View attachment 142446

I will surprise you – all those maps in Internet (regardless their language) were created much later than in 988. Ta-daa.


And instead of answering simple questions you again post a ‘sheet’ with links and citations you have posted here numerous times. It became boring long ago. You can’t live in Ukraine because of difficulties and consider Russia as your Motherland? Go there and stop whining.

Internet is full of fake news, we both know that. Ta-daa.

Eventually we all will go to Russia with all our historical lands. When will it happen? When independent group of EU/USA powerful people comes to Ukraine, sees and condemns the numerous crimes of Ukrainian Junta against the humanity. Just like EU leaders came to Georgia in 2008 and confirmed that Georgia attacked Ossetia. BTW, you almost can't find anything about that on your reliable Internet in English language. But the fact remains the fact.

Good luck living in a poorest country in Europe, dear proud Ukrainian Esay. Only the crooks do well in such a country. You must be working for some of them, I can guess. Otherwise you would be poor and miserable and wouldn't have any illusions about the future of a failed state of Ukraine. And it keeps failing, my dear Esay.

Again historical lands. Where these lands are located?

When will it happen? When independent group of EU/USA powerful people comes to Ukraine, sees and condemns the numerous crimes of Ukrainian Junta against the humanity. Just like EU leaders came to Georgia in 2008 and confirmed that Georgia attacked Ossetia. BTW, you almost can't find anything about that on your reliable Internet in English language. But the fact remains the fact.

More than 3 years have passed since then and you still have such stuff in your head? Unbelievable. At least you don’t hope that Russia will help you. It is progress.

So, are you under the impression that the E.U "liberated" the Ukraine in that illegal coup in 2014???

Dude, to understand why it happened you should look not on 2014 year, but on much earlier times. Have you ever heard about South-Western Rus and North-Eastern Rus? And what was the difference between them?

 

[Stratford57]

Really? May be you should learn a little bit of real history (not that pseudo-history Ukrainians have been telling you).

View attachment 142422

Ukraine entered USSR without Eastern parts, Crimea and Galichina and exited USSR in 1991 twice bigger than entered. While being Ukrainian socialist republic within the USSR , those territories were adjoined to it just because it was convenient territorially: Lenin adjoined a lot of Russian lands from the East to increase proletariat in Ukrainian republic; Khrushchev adjoined Cromea and Stalin adjoined [Polish] Gallichina after WW2. When Ukraine decided to become "independent" (ha, ha!) in 1991 it should have returned all Russian and Polish lands to begin with. Also I'd like to remind you that Russia paid all external debts for Ukraine and other republics after USSR collapsed.

Esay, it won't hurt you to learn some real history. Start with an article by CIS-EMO political analyst of an International Monitoring Organization Stanislav Byshok (a Polish! author):
The truth about Ukraine: Byshok's lecture at Brown University - Fort Russ

Firstly, your map is BS. Why? Because in 1650-s the Cossack Hetmanate already had these boundaries

Second. You were saying about historical Russian lands since 988. Where these lands are located?

Your map is in the Ukrainian language but there was no Ukraine in 988, all those lands were called Kievan Rus and Kiev has always been called "the mother of Russian cities". Only after the Poles conquered some Russian West territories and later Russia conquered them back, the people on those territories became a mixture of Russians and Poles and that’s how Ukraine appeared. The translation of the world Ukraine was “suburbs”, ”Окраина” in the Russian language.

When Ukraine exited the USSR, it was the beginning of total loss of its sovereignty and after the 2014 coup it is under total external control from Washington Deep State. American Jews gave the power to local Jews in Ukraine which resulted in complete destroying of economy, unbelievable brainwashing the population (same people have been brainwashing Ukrainians and American liberals), terrible raise of prices and utilities, freezing salaries and retirement payments, chaos and corruption inside the country and even making Christians kill Christians in Donbass.
UKRAINE: ZIONIST AMERICA'S NEW JEWISH COLONY — by Lasha Darkmoon – Darkmoon

Ukrainian “independence” makes same sense as an independence of a prostitute, she’s only dependent on a certain person who gives her money at the moment and independent from those who currently don’t.

However some brainwashed Ukrainians like Esay hate Russia a lot more than wish well to their own miserable country. Sooner or later you’ll learn: if you want prosperity for your country, it should be with Russia. Only. The other country will only suck it up and throw away or use as a tool for their own purposes, not yours. dear Esay. Currently those purposes are decreasing the population of Ukraine and making it as anti-Russia as possible.
----

Western leaders are content to exploit Ukraine as a buffer against Russia

“In little over a year, living standards in Ukraine have fallen by half, the value of the currency has slumped by more than two-thirds, and inflation has skyrocketed to 43 percent. Yet, even as the economy has collapsed, the government has insisted on economic policies that can only be termed suicidal,”

Kiev is paying $130 for $100 gas because it doesn’t want to admit that it’s Russian gas. This is proof of the mindset of Ukrainian policymakers.

Twenty five years after the USSR collapsed, Ukraine is worse off than it was under direct rule from Moscow.

Currently, it’s financially beholden to the IMF, which can reduce its economy to rubble with a stroke of a pen and its leaders are apparently chosen by foreign officials and wealthy lobbyists with no connection to the country. To make matters worse, Kiev has completely burned its bridges with Russia, which hosts the largest Ukrainian diaspora in the world.
Modern Ukraine is 25 yrs old, but is it actually independent?
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/357039-ukraine-independence-ussr-maidan/

Ukraine Is in Danger of Becoming a Failed State

Cohen: Trump should have spoken out against what many see as Ukraine’s troubling glorification of Nazi collaborators. Trump should have broadened the agenda to call out Kiev for its official state policy of honoring controversial figures from World War Two.
Commentary: How Trump can show he’s tough on anti-Semitism

A Fascist Hero in Democratic Kiev

Americans have been carefully shielded from the ugly underbelly of Ukraine’s Maidan uprising in 2014 that overthrew the elected president and installed a U.S.-backed, fiercely anti-Russian regime which has unleashed armed neo-Nazis. But a French documentary has dared to expose this grim reality, as Gilbert Doctorow describes.
A Look at Ukraine's Dark Side

NY Times:
International Monitory Fund and the donor nations, like United States, can’t continue to shovel money into a corrupt swamp

Opinion | Ukraine’s Unyielding Corruption

Politician makes claims of vast corruption in Ukraine

https://www.ceps.eu/publications/ukraine’s-unimplemented-anti-corruption-reform

IMF’s mission chief for Ukraine, Ron Van Rooden: It will take Ukraine a generation to come near the Central European economy
https://sputniknews.com/europe/201612151048570746-ukraine-generation-central-european-economy/

Foreign Policy Journal:
Kiev Is Fueling the War in Eastern Ukraine, Too

View attachment 142446

I will surprise you – all those maps in Internet (regardless their language) were created much later than in 988. Ta-daa.


And instead of answering simple questions you again post a ‘sheet’ with links and citations you have posted here numerous times. It became boring long ago. You can’t live in Ukraine because of difficulties and consider Russia as your Motherland? Go there and stop whining.

Internet is full of fake news, we both know that. Ta-daa.

Eventually we all will go to Russia with all our historical lands. When will it happen? When independent group of EU/USA powerful people comes to Ukraine, sees and condemns the numerous crimes of Ukrainian Junta against the humanity. Just like EU leaders came to Georgia in 2008 and confirmed that Georgia attacked Ossetia. BTW, you almost can't find anything about that on your reliable Internet in English language. But the fact remains the fact.

Good luck living in a poorest country in Europe, dear proud Ukrainian Esay. Only the crooks do well in such a country. You must be working for some of them, I can guess. Otherwise you would be poor and miserable and wouldn't have any illusions about the future of a failed state of Ukraine. And it keeps failing, my dear Esay.

Again historical lands. Where these lands are located?

When will it happen? When independent group of EU/USA powerful people comes to Ukraine, sees and condemns the numerous crimes of Ukrainian Junta against the humanity. Just like EU leaders came to Georgia in 2008 and confirmed that Georgia attacked Ossetia. BTW, you almost can't find anything about that on your reliable Internet in English language. But the fact remains the fact.

More than 3 years have passed since then and you still have such stuff in your head? Unbelievable. At least you don’t hope that Russia will help you. It is progress.

Whatever, brainwashed Ukrainian. May be eventually you'll get your brain back from Soros and his Deep State buddies.

 

[ESay]

Firstly, your map is BS. Why? Because in 1650-s the Cossack Hetmanate already had these boundaries

Second. You were saying about historical Russian lands since 988. Where these lands are located?

Your map is in the Ukrainian language but there was no Ukraine in 988, all those lands were called Kievan Rus and Kiev has always been called "the mother of Russian cities". Only after the Poles conquered some Russian West territories and later Russia conquered them back, the people on those territories became a mixture of Russians and Poles and that’s how Ukraine appeared. The translation of the world Ukraine was “suburbs”, ”Окраина” in the Russian language.

When Ukraine exited the USSR, it was the beginning of total loss of its sovereignty and after the 2014 coup it is under total external control from Washington Deep State. American Jews gave the power to local Jews in Ukraine which resulted in complete destroying of economy, unbelievable brainwashing the population (same people have been brainwashing Ukrainians and American liberals), terrible raise of prices and utilities, freezing salaries and retirement payments, chaos and corruption inside the country and even making Christians kill Christians in Donbass.
UKRAINE: ZIONIST AMERICA'S NEW JEWISH COLONY — by Lasha Darkmoon – Darkmoon

Ukrainian “independence” makes same sense as an independence of a prostitute, she’s only dependent on a certain person who gives her money at the moment and independent from those who currently don’t.

However some brainwashed Ukrainians like Esay hate Russia a lot more than wish well to their own miserable country. Sooner or later you’ll learn: if you want prosperity for your country, it should be with Russia. Only. The other country will only suck it up and throw away or use as a tool for their own purposes, not yours. dear Esay. Currently those purposes are decreasing the population of Ukraine and making it as anti-Russia as possible.
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Western leaders are content to exploit Ukraine as a buffer against Russia

“In little over a year, living standards in Ukraine have fallen by half, the value of the currency has slumped by more than two-thirds, and inflation has skyrocketed to 43 percent. Yet, even as the economy has collapsed, the government has insisted on economic policies that can only be termed suicidal,”

Kiev is paying $130 for $100 gas because it doesn’t want to admit that it’s Russian gas. This is proof of the mindset of Ukrainian policymakers.

Twenty five years after the USSR collapsed, Ukraine is worse off than it was under direct rule from Moscow.

Currently, it’s financially beholden to the IMF, which can reduce its economy to rubble with a stroke of a pen and its leaders are apparently chosen by foreign officials and wealthy lobbyists with no connection to the country. To make matters worse, Kiev has completely burned its bridges with Russia, which hosts the largest Ukrainian diaspora in the world.
Modern Ukraine is 25 yrs old, but is it actually independent?
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/357039-ukraine-independence-ussr-maidan/

Ukraine Is in Danger of Becoming a Failed State

Cohen: Trump should have spoken out against what many see as Ukraine’s troubling glorification of Nazi collaborators. Trump should have broadened the agenda to call out Kiev for its official state policy of honoring controversial figures from World War Two.
Commentary: How Trump can show he’s tough on anti-Semitism

A Fascist Hero in Democratic Kiev

Americans have been carefully shielded from the ugly underbelly of Ukraine’s Maidan uprising in 2014 that overthrew the elected president and installed a U.S.-backed, fiercely anti-Russian regime which has unleashed armed neo-Nazis. But a French documentary has dared to expose this grim reality, as Gilbert Doctorow describes.
A Look at Ukraine's Dark Side

NY Times:
International Monitory Fund and the donor nations, like United States, can’t continue to shovel money into a corrupt swamp

Opinion | Ukraine’s Unyielding Corruption

Politician makes claims of vast corruption in Ukraine

https://www.ceps.eu/publications/ukraine’s-unimplemented-anti-corruption-reform

IMF’s mission chief for Ukraine, Ron Van Rooden: It will take Ukraine a generation to come near the Central European economy
https://sputniknews.com/europe/201612151048570746-ukraine-generation-central-european-economy/

Foreign Policy Journal:
Kiev Is Fueling the War in Eastern Ukraine, Too

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I will surprise you – all those maps in Internet (regardless their language) were created much later than in 988. Ta-daa.


And instead of answering simple questions you again post a ‘sheet’ with links and citations you have posted here numerous times. It became boring long ago. You can’t live in Ukraine because of difficulties and consider Russia as your Motherland? Go there and stop whining.

Internet is full of fake news, we both know that. Ta-daa.

Eventually we all will go to Russia with all our historical lands. When will it happen? When independent group of EU/USA powerful people comes to Ukraine, sees and condemns the numerous crimes of Ukrainian Junta against the humanity. Just like EU leaders came to Georgia in 2008 and confirmed that Georgia attacked Ossetia. BTW, you almost can't find anything about that on your reliable Internet in English language. But the fact remains the fact.

Good luck living in a poorest country in Europe, dear proud Ukrainian Esay. Only the crooks do well in such a country. You must be working for some of them, I can guess. Otherwise you would be poor and miserable and wouldn't have any illusions about the future of a failed state of Ukraine. And it keeps failing, my dear Esay.

Again historical lands. Where these lands are located?

When will it happen? When independent group of EU/USA powerful people comes to Ukraine, sees and condemns the numerous crimes of Ukrainian Junta against the humanity. Just like EU leaders came to Georgia in 2008 and confirmed that Georgia attacked Ossetia. BTW, you almost can't find anything about that on your reliable Internet in English language. But the fact remains the fact.

More than 3 years have passed since then and you still have such stuff in your head? Unbelievable. At least you don’t hope that Russia will help you. It is progress.

Whatever, brainwashed Ukrainian. May be eventually you'll get your brain back from Soros and his Deep State buddies.

I see. Hey, Dale Smith, after my question about ‘historical lands’ I got this answer. I think I can also consider this as fact and data. Don’t forget to rate her post ‘Winner’ btw.

 

[Stratford57]

Your map is in the Ukrainian language but there was no Ukraine in 988, all those lands were called Kievan Rus and Kiev has always been called "the mother of Russian cities". Only after the Poles conquered some Russian West territories and later Russia conquered them back, the people on those territories became a mixture of Russians and Poles and that’s how Ukraine appeared. The translation of the world Ukraine was “suburbs”, ”Окраина” in the Russian language.

When Ukraine exited the USSR, it was the beginning of total loss of its sovereignty and after the 2014 coup it is under total external control from Washington Deep State. American Jews gave the power to local Jews in Ukraine which resulted in complete destroying of economy, unbelievable brainwashing the population (same people have been brainwashing Ukrainians and American liberals), terrible raise of prices and utilities, freezing salaries and retirement payments, chaos and corruption inside the country and even making Christians kill Christians in Donbass.
UKRAINE: ZIONIST AMERICA'S NEW JEWISH COLONY — by Lasha Darkmoon – Darkmoon

Ukrainian “independence” makes same sense as an independence of a prostitute, she’s only dependent on a certain person who gives her money at the moment and independent from those who currently don’t.

However some brainwashed Ukrainians like Esay hate Russia a lot more than wish well to their own miserable country. Sooner or later you’ll learn: if you want prosperity for your country, it should be with Russia. Only. The other country will only suck it up and throw away or use as a tool for their own purposes, not yours. dear Esay. Currently those purposes are decreasing the population of Ukraine and making it as anti-Russia as possible.
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Western leaders are content to exploit Ukraine as a buffer against Russia

“In little over a year, living standards in Ukraine have fallen by half, the value of the currency has slumped by more than two-thirds, and inflation has skyrocketed to 43 percent. Yet, even as the economy has collapsed, the government has insisted on economic policies that can only be termed suicidal,”

Kiev is paying $130 for $100 gas because it doesn’t want to admit that it’s Russian gas. This is proof of the mindset of Ukrainian policymakers.

Twenty five years after the USSR collapsed, Ukraine is worse off than it was under direct rule from Moscow.

Currently, it’s financially beholden to the IMF, which can reduce its economy to rubble with a stroke of a pen and its leaders are apparently chosen by foreign officials and wealthy lobbyists with no connection to the country. To make matters worse, Kiev has completely burned its bridges with Russia, which hosts the largest Ukrainian diaspora in the world.
Modern Ukraine is 25 yrs old, but is it actually independent?
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/357039-ukraine-independence-ussr-maidan/

Ukraine Is in Danger of Becoming a Failed State

Cohen: Trump should have spoken out against what many see as Ukraine’s troubling glorification of Nazi collaborators. Trump should have broadened the agenda to call out Kiev for its official state policy of honoring controversial figures from World War Two.
Commentary: How Trump can show he’s tough on anti-Semitism

A Fascist Hero in Democratic Kiev

Americans have been carefully shielded from the ugly underbelly of Ukraine’s Maidan uprising in 2014 that overthrew the elected president and installed a U.S.-backed, fiercely anti-Russian regime which has unleashed armed neo-Nazis. But a French documentary has dared to expose this grim reality, as Gilbert Doctorow describes.
A Look at Ukraine's Dark Side

NY Times:
International Monitory Fund and the donor nations, like United States, can’t continue to shovel money into a corrupt swamp

Opinion | Ukraine’s Unyielding Corruption

Politician makes claims of vast corruption in Ukraine

https://www.ceps.eu/publications/ukraine’s-unimplemented-anti-corruption-reform

IMF’s mission chief for Ukraine, Ron Van Rooden: It will take Ukraine a generation to come near the Central European economy
https://sputniknews.com/europe/201612151048570746-ukraine-generation-central-european-economy/

Foreign Policy Journal:
Kiev Is Fueling the War in Eastern Ukraine, Too

View attachment 142446

I will surprise you – all those maps in Internet (regardless their language) were created much later than in 988. Ta-daa.


And instead of answering simple questions you again post a ‘sheet’ with links and citations you have posted here numerous times. It became boring long ago. You can’t live in Ukraine because of difficulties and consider Russia as your Motherland? Go there and stop whining.

Internet is full of fake news, we both know that. Ta-daa.

Eventually we all will go to Russia with all our historical lands. When will it happen? When independent group of EU/USA powerful people comes to Ukraine, sees and condemns the numerous crimes of Ukrainian Junta against the humanity. Just like EU leaders came to Georgia in 2008 and confirmed that Georgia attacked Ossetia. BTW, you almost can't find anything about that on your reliable Internet in English language. But the fact remains the fact.

Good luck living in a poorest country in Europe, dear proud Ukrainian Esay. Only the crooks do well in such a country. You must be working for some of them, I can guess. Otherwise you would be poor and miserable and wouldn't have any illusions about the future of a failed state of Ukraine. And it keeps failing, my dear Esay.

Again historical lands. Where these lands are located?

When will it happen? When independent group of EU/USA powerful people comes to Ukraine, sees and condemns the numerous crimes of Ukrainian Junta against the humanity. Just like EU leaders came to Georgia in 2008 and confirmed that Georgia attacked Ossetia. BTW, you almost can't find anything about that on your reliable Internet in English language. But the fact remains the fact.

More than 3 years have passed since then and you still have such stuff in your head? Unbelievable. At least you don’t hope that Russia will help you. It is progress.

Whatever, brainwashed Ukrainian. May be eventually you'll get your brain back from Soros and his Deep State buddies.

I see. Hey, Dale Smith, after my question about ‘historical lands’ I got this answer. I think I can also consider this as fact and data. Don’t forget to rate her post ‘Winner’ btw.

Yes, Dale Smith , tell that Ukrainian how much Americans want to know about Ukraine, how much they care about it and how much money American taxpayers want to spend on a failed state of Ukraine who gave up its sovereignty to Soros and his Deep State buddies just because they have been taught to hate Russia and never hesitate to bite the hand which feeds them.

P.S. I don't see your posts rated with too many "winners", dear Esay. Not that I care, just an observation.