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A communist is a supporter of the ideas of communism, or a member of the Communist Party. Moreover, a member of the Communist Party is not necessarily a supporter of the ideas of communism. He may just be a careerist if the Communist Party is in power. So communists can be considered primarily a person who is a supporter of the ideas of communism.
Now we need to define what communism is. Communism in short is an economic and social system in which the main ideas are social equality and public ownership of the means of production.

Actually, Russian Communism is completely defined by the Holodomor, the Russian genocide against the Ukrainian people in which Stalin, the man who created and defined Russian Communism, systematically starved nearly 4 million Ukrainians to death to squelch a Ukrainian independence movement in the early 1930's. The fact that Putin is now trying to freeze huge numbers of Ukrainians to death this winter to try to squelch Ukrainian independence shows the spirit of Russian communism is alive and well in Russia today.

Holodomor | Facts, Definition, & Death Toll

Holodomor, man-made famine that claimed millions of lives in the Soviet republic of Ukraine in 1932–33. Because the famine was so damaging, and because it was covered up by Soviet authorities, it has played a large role in Ukrainian public memory, particularly since Ukraine gained independence...

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[AlexanderPK]

A communist is a supporter of the ideas of communism, or a member of the Communist Party. Moreover, a member of the Communist Party is not necessarily a supporter of the ideas of communism. He may just be a careerist if the Communist Party is in power. So communists can be considered primarily a person who is a supporter of the ideas of communism.
Now we need to define what communism is. Communism in short is an economic and social system in which the main ideas are social equality and public ownership of the means of production.

There was an old soviet film "Communist", portraying what I, and I think most of others, grew up to know who communists were. What Germans did to our people during the Great Patriotic War drew up the portrait of a Fascist (Germans and Fascists were almost synonymous to us then) and intensified the image of a Communist, its mortal foe. To westerners those are just stupid words with no substance to them except maybe they knew that somewhere beyond the horizon lurk communists capable of launching an A-bomb at them and thus the bad guys and Wernher von Braun, former fascist, was behind their space programme. So, now when something is bad it's of communist origin, and they vote against the UN resolution condemning Fascism.

 

[SavannahMann]

There was an old soviet film "Communist", portraying what I, and I think most of others, grew up to know who communists were. What Germans did to our people during the Great Patriotic War drew up the portrait of a Fascist (Germans and Fascists were almost synonymous to us then) and intensified the image of a Communist, its mortal foe. To westerners those are just stupid words with no substance to them except maybe they knew that somewhere beyond the horizon lurk communists capable of launching an A-bomb at them and thus the bad guys and Wernher von Braun, former fascist, was behind their space programme. So, now when something is bad it's of communist origin, and they vote against the UN resolution condemning Fascism.

And if memory serves, the Soviets used Nazi Rocket Scientists to build a V-1 for them. And the second effort was an even bigger V-1.

So that would mean Sputnik and Gregarin and even the launches of today were based upon the work of Fascists. Right?

 

[Ringo]

And if memory serves, the Soviets used Nazi Rocket Scientists to build a V-1 for them. And the second effort was an even bigger V-1.

Many captured germans after the war worked in the USSR to restore what they had destroyed аnd it would be foolish to use rocket technology specialists in earthworks. But it never occurred to the Soviet leadership to appoint a nazi as the head of a space project.
The USSR was a sufficiently developed country to have its own scientist for this purpose - Korolev.

 

[SavannahMann]

Many captured germans after the war worked in the USSR to restore what they had destroyed. But it never occurred to the Soviet leadership to appoint a nazi as the head of a space project.
The USSR was a sufficiently developed country to have its own scientist for this purpose - Korolev.

You mean the Korolev who was denounced and sentenced to Hard Labor for ten years during the purges? The man who wasn’t allowed to use his name while he was alive? The Chief Designer?

Whereas Von Braun was in charge of the effort to build the rockets to go to the moon. Others were in charge of NASA. However unlike the Soviets, we accepted Von Braun into society and allowed him the same freedoms once he was a citizen including the right to speak out against Government Policy.

We didn’t hide his history. We told everyone where he had come from, and what he had done. You see, Americans in that era, were willing to forgive, and we understood that to survive in the Nazi system you had to be a part of the Party.

Similar to your beloved Soviet nation. We had defectors come over, people seeking freedom. And we accepted that they had been Communists. Since anyone who wasn’t a Communist was summarily executed or sent to hard labor in the Gulags.

However, I have to thank you and your Soviet history. In California, the Police conducted an illegal search, and the defense attorney in seeking to get the evidence collected during that search suppressed read the lies the Soviets put out. He read the rights of a Soviet Citizen. And when the Judge interrupted him asking what he was doing, he explained it was easy to write down that an individual had rights, and was protected. However it was another matter entirely to actually enforce those rights. The Soviets wrote them, but never once enforced them.

The evidence was thrown out, and a man walked free. Because the Soviets wrote many lies about the glorious Soviet Union, but never could stop being what they were, Bullies who changed the rules to suit them.

I heard that story as a boy and it inspired me. It was part of the decision to join the Army. Later the Airborne. So I could fight and defend the rights of Americans from the totalitarian regime of the Soviets. The Soviet Union collapsed while I was in the Army, and I like many others celebrated.

We had Russian Officers come to visit us at Fort Bragg, and they refused to believe that our enlisted personnel were entrusted with Maps, and even taught how to read them. They thought we had placed officers in Enlisted Man’s uniforms to trick them.

Today, we see the same attitudes in the New Russian Army. Troops denied knowledge, and only the Officers having any clear idea what is going on, if they even know.

So Tovarich, what did your awesome Soviet Leaders tell you about Chernobyl? Did they tell you that the design had a fatal flaw? Did they tell you that the Soviets hoping to save money didn’t bother building a containment building around the reactor to prevent Radiation from escaping? I doubt it. Truth is one of those things the Soviets, and Russians today are not big fans of.

The Great Patriotic War? That is a good thing to mention. Because defenders in Stalingrad were sent forward to fight without rifles. Much as your troops today are being sent out without proper equipment. Turning your men into little more than sacrificial lambs. Hoping that the deaths of tens of thousands will cause the enemy to run out of ammo.

Enjoy the pain over the next several decades. Because your leaders are the ones who did this, and they are the ones who have condemned Russia and its people to suffering.

There was nothing good in the Soviet Union. It is a shame that the return of the old ways have returned. It isn’t good for the world, and it is especially bad for you and your fellow citizens. But this is what you want, so don’t complain when you get it.

 

[AlexanderPK]

And if memory serves, the Soviets used Nazi Rocket Scientists to build a V-1 for them. And the second effort was an even bigger V-1.

So that would mean Sputnik and Gregarin and even the launches of today were based upon the work of Fascists. Right?

Gagarin is not that much hard a name to remember, so memory doesn't serve you and, I'm talking about the image that comes to your mind when you hear someone say Fascist. You don't think of concentration camps and tens of millions of Soviet people killed, you may think of Broun or half the Canada of nice "refugee" Nazies who escaped the evil Soviets. That and what Ringo said.

 

[AlexanderPK]

Whereas Von Braun was in charge of the effort to build the rockets to go to the moon.

To do what? To bring democracy to the lunatics of course, no less.
Luna is the Moon in case you forgot, you said something about problems with memory.

 

[AlexanderPK]

However, I have to thank you and your Soviet history. In California, the Police conducted an illegal search, and the defense attorney in seeking to get the evidence collected during that search suppressed read the lies the Soviets put out. He read the rights of a Soviet Citizen. And when the Judge interrupted him asking what he was doing, he explained it was easy to write down that an individual had rights, and was protected. However it was another matter entirely to actually enforce those rights. The Soviets wrote them, but never once enforced them.

The evidence was thrown out, and a man walked free. Because the Soviets wrote many lies about the glorious Soviet Union, but never could stop being what they were, Bullies who changed the rules to suit them.

So, first he told a fairy tale that a Soviet Citizen had rights but no means to enforce them and the Judge enraged by the "fact" and not willing to be like the Soviets vehemently rejected the ill gotten evidence. Fairness at its best!!! Man, the cause you served for was unjust from the get go. You were cheated as always.

 

[SavannahMann]

So, first he told a fairy tale that a Soviet Citizen had rights but no means to enforce them and the Judge enraged by the "fact" and not willing to be like the Soviets vehemently rejected the ill gotten evidence. Fairness at its best!!! Man, the cause you served for was unjust from the get go. You were cheated as always.

Oh we have problems. And we have made some mistakes. But compared to the Soviets, we are damned near awesome.

We don’t send troops out to fight without a rifle. We never have sent out the Army unequipped like that. Oh we have done plenty of things wrong, but we don’t bury the history. We admit it, and teach it to our children as examples of what we did wrong, and what we should never do again.

Our Children are taught our historical mistakes. And that is another huge difference between our peoples.

 

[SavannahMann]

Gagarin is not that much hard a name to remember, so memory doesn't serve you and, I'm talking about the image that comes to your mind when you hear someone say Fascist. You don't think of concentration camps and tens of millions of Soviet people killed, you may think of Broun or half the Canada of nice "refugee" Nazies who escaped the evil Soviets. That and what Ringo said.

Oh I know about the Soviets killed and the atrocities committed by both sides. The Soviets committed just as many atrocities as the Nazi’s. Spraying the Nazi’s with water in the dead of winter so they would freeze to death? Did you learn that history? I did. How about the rapes the Soviet Soldiers did across all of Eastern Europe?

Rape during the occupation of Germany - Wikipedia

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The only difference between the Soviets and the Nazi’s were that the Soviets were on our side. Otherwise they were exactly the same. The same crimes, the same brutality, and the same atrocities were committed by both sides. The NKVD executed Jews too didn’t they? Can’t have intellectuals questioning the supreme Soviet.

And that is where your country is again. Dissidents and degenerates are rounded up aren’t they?

 

[AlexanderPK]

The Great Patriotic War? That is a good thing to mention. Because defenders in Stalingrad were sent forward to fight without rifles. Much as your troops today are being sent out without proper equipment. Turning your men into little more than sacrificial lambs. Hoping that the deaths of tens of thousands will cause the enemy to run out of ammo.

That's from the soap opera named "Stalingrad", right, and Chernobyl stuff from its HBO namesake? Way to go! The best way to learn history.

 

[AlexanderPK]

Oh I know about the Soviets killed and the atrocities committed by both sides. The Soviets committed just as many atrocities as the Nazi’s. Spraying the Nazi’s with water in the dead of winter so they would freeze to death? Did you learn that history? I did. How about the rapes the Soviet Soldiers did across all of Eastern Europe?

Look at the shit your head is stuffed with it's about to explode.
You know nothing because it's not in your curriculum and Google hides it by its algorithms and feeds you "barbarians" raping innocent germans instead. The rage of the Soviet soldiers after what germans did to their families was so overpowering that I'm mystified that they didn't tear every german they met limb from limb much less rape their women. Though you should know that if caught they were court-martialed and often shot.

 

[Ringo]

You mean the Korolev who was denounced and sentenced to Hard Labor for ten years during the purges? The man who wasn’t allowed to use his name while he was alive? The Chief Designer?

Yes, the same Korolev, who in the difficult pre-war years, when the country counted every penny, preparing the country for the upcoming war, instead of the task assigned to him to create military missiles (such as Katyusha), was engaged in his hobby - rockets for flying to the Moon and in general, space rockets. The hobby, of course, is very interesting, but very untimely in those years. Then they were able to count money and punish those who squandered it, a fact unthinkable in capitalist Russia, unfortunatel

We didn’t hide his history. We told everyone where he had come from, and what he had done. You see, Americans in that era, were willing to forgive, and we understood that to survive in the Nazi system you had to be a part of the Party.

Of course you 're not hiding . As long as they can no longer be hidden and we have to admit that the reason for the war in Vietnam or Iraq was invented and millions of people suffered as a result of a vile lie. And at the same time, if possible, take revenge and destroy those who reveal an inconvenient truth, such as Assange. Everything that comes from the USA has long been only violence and perversions, like this abomination:

First Biological Male Wins 'Miss Greater Derry,' A Beauty Pageant Held By The Miss America Organization

Brían has become the first trans winner of the Miss Greater Derry beauty pageant. "I am ecstatic to be the FIRST transgender woman to be a Miss America…

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[AlexanderPK]

Well, fuck me sideways again!!! The greatest country on Earth!
The best part is he'll busting his ass to prove it's what they call freedom.
P.S. Forgot the diversity, sorry.

 

[SavannahMann]

That's from the soap opera named "Stalingrad", right, and Chernobyl stuff from its HBO namesake? Way to go! The best way to learn history.

I learned that in 1985 from history books. I suppose you never read those books in the Soviet Union. Can’t let people know the horrors that were inflicted on their own people by the leaders.

 

[SavannahMann]

Look at the shit your head is stuffed with it's about to explode.
You know nothing because it's not in your curriculum and Google hides it by its algorithms and feeds you "barbarians" raping innocent germans instead. The rage of the Soviet soldiers after what germans did to their families was so overpowering that I'm mystified that they didn't tear every german they met limb from limb much less rape their women. Though you should know that if caught they were court-martialed and often shot.

The records don’t seem to show any courts martial or executions for atrocities. In fact the NKVD was leading many of the parties and disobedience of them was punished by instant death wasn’t it?

 

[AlexanderPK]

SavannahMann
This is an American film, not ours, and it depicts different view on history Americans had once.
There were others too. Why did you not watch them?

 

[SavannahMann]

SavannahMann
This is an American film, not ours, and it depicts different view on history Americans had once.
There were others too. Why did you not watch them?

Oh lord. Rounding up wartime propaganda films to try and ignore the truth.

This is why the Russian Soldiers were condemned to death by digging in at Chernobyl. Because Russia doesn’t like dealing in the truth.

 

[AlexanderPK]

Oh lord. Rounding up wartime propaganda films to try and ignore the truth.

This is why the Russian Soldiers were condemned to death by digging in at Chernobyl. Because Russia doesn’t like dealing in the truth.

Duplicitous fuck, rounding up propaganda history doesn't count now?

 

[SavannahMann]

Duplicitous fuck, rounding up propaganda history doesn't count now?

I’m telling truth. Truth is based in fact. So why were the Soldiers told to dig in at Chernobyl? How is it that Russians were never told about this event?